Apparently that is what Artdink is planning with Neo Atlas :/. Well, maybe there won't even be a store page for the Japanese version, but still.
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NISA releasing Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana in English (PS4/Vita/Steam) in 2017
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Apparently that is what Artdink is planning with Neo Atlas :/. Well, maybe there won't even be a store page for the Japanese version, but still.
sechsterangriff
Member
This is NISA so we almost certainly get a physical European version with all the percs. Actually this is what makes me happy Falcom went with them instead of XSEED because I doubt we would be so lucky otherwise.
You are just seeing ghosts. Why wouldn't it be able to have different version of the same game on Steam? It's in no one's interest to prevent something like that from happening. If XSEED acquires the English rights to Zero and Ao, then why would Joyoland be interested in blocking such a release? Joyoland wouldn't be allowed to release an English version in the first place (and there's nothing implying that they would even be interested in English localization). Why would Joyoland feel threatened by an English release of a game they are only offering in Chinese? Those releases would cater to entirely different target audiences with almost no overlap at all.
To the contrary, if Joyoland plans to brush up their PC versions for a Steam release, working with those versions might actually become easier for XSEED instead of more difficult. Which brings us to the next topic: The PC versions were developed by Joyoland to begin with and there's a good chance XSEED would need to work together with Joyoland to license the rights to those versions. So, even if Joyoland is for some reason against the idea of XSEED using their versions, the stumbling block wouldn't be different Steam pages.
And just btw:
Nobunaga's Ambition: Sphere of Influence
Nobunaga's Ambition: Souzo with Power Up kit(Tradition Chinese version)
Same game, different pages. Crazy.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Well, it's cool that it's coming to PC. Though I wish GOG would get off their asses and make sure they get both this and Tokyo Xanadu this year, because I'd really prefer to be able to buy my Falcom stuff there.
leesmapman
Member
Bah, I wanted to pre-order the LE from the NISA site, but that's only for North America people...
I'm sure NISA Europe will do a LE, they usually do
Hmm wonder what this means for CSIII. Falcom already stated that they went with PS4 to ensure that the game will sell internationally, rather than just domestically. I hope Xseed will handle that and get all voice actors back. At this point I can't imagine some characters with different English voices or CSIII not coming at all I would be sooooo salty if that happened...
leesmapman
Member
They better, it looks beautiful.
cj_iwakura
Member
Looks like VIII is a carbon copy of Celceta, for better or for worse.
TriForce Hero
Member
Yes my dream of All Ys games on Steam is coming closer *_*
TheWhiteWolf
Banned
Great news. More ys is always great news.
No celceta (redoing of sorts of both 4s), and no 7.
5 is a likely guess to be the remake game between 8 and 9, so if 8 does well I would expect to see it on steam in due time as well. That just leaves moc and 7, both of which have existing pc versions that could be brought over.
LifeBrandRobot
Member
Vita will never die. Something I hate about NISA though is that their CE's are always site exclusive and I can't afford to import them anymore. Woulda jumped on the CE in a heartbeat if it was on Amazon.
Also I wonder what's going on between XSEED and Falcom, feels like they're drifting apart. They lost Tokyo Xanadu and now Ys 8.
Also I wonder what's going on between XSEED and Falcom, feels like they're drifting apart. They lost Tokyo Xanadu and now Ys 8.
StereoVsn
Member
On one hand I am happy that we got the confirmation of the localization coming this fall, especially since we are getting a PC version which wasn't there originally.
On the other hand it's unfortunate that Xseed won't be a part of this. They made the series popular and expanded that audience in the West. Also Xseed has top notch localizations while on the other hand NISA is merely ok and far too prone to fall back to memes.
On the other hand it's unfortunate that Xseed won't be a part of this. They made the series popular and expanded that audience in the West. Also Xseed has top notch localizations while on the other hand NISA is merely ok and far too prone to fall back to memes.
Lacrimosa of Dana was my GOTY last year, so glad to see it getting localised in the West this year.
The advantage XSEED has over other publishers is that they are the only ones crazy enough to take on projects as big as Trails games. While both Ys VIII and Tokyo Xanadu are big games on their own, their size pales in comparison to your average Trails game. Falcom already said Cold Steel III will have an enormous script, so colour me surprised if that would end up in another publisher's hands.
The advantage XSEED has over other publishers is that they are the only ones crazy enough to take on projects as big as Trails games. While both Ys VIII and Tokyo Xanadu are big games on their own, their size pales in comparison to your average Trails game. Falcom already said Cold Steel III will have an enormous script, so colour me surprised if that would end up in another publisher's hands.
Seems likely that XSeed was just busy with their current slate of games so maybe that left room for NISA & Aksys to jump in and snab this and Tokyo Xanadu's localizations before XSeed could get around to them (since Falcom does seem to consider western PC market an important one to get into, maybe they didn't want to wait until XSeed had the time to start working on when Aksys & NISA could jump on them immediately) + NISA & Aksys' ability to port these games to PC (better than XSeed would) is maybe also a factor.
CertifiedFP
Member
I don't know how much you know about east-Asian corporations (I'm an expert), but obstructionism and petty bullshit are huge parts of it.
...Oh dear, did I just pull a NISA there with that dank GAF meme?
There's actually been quite a few games where a Chinese localizer demands to be the exclusive distributor of any PC versions of the game they're localizing, out of fear of reverse importing or in the case of F2P titles, Chinese customers going to a North America/Europe version with less aggressive microtransactions and plugging the Chinese script in. Naturally, Japanese publishers on the more conservative end of the spectrum agree to such demands seeing the Chinese market as safer and more profitable than the west. Hell, this is one of the reasons I keep seeing floated around about PSO2's indefinite English delay. Well, other than the more obvious fact that PSO2 is probably the most galapagos'd game ever made at this point.
Thing is, Joyoland has to license the games from Falcom themselves so I imagine they aren't quite as in control as they'd be if these were IPs of their own. And since Falcom seems to be warming up to the western market, I'd imagine they have some sway over Joyoland to pressure them to not be such obstructionist, petty assholes in the case that XSeed has to work with Joyoland on Zero & Azure.
We're getting an early peep into what nisa is packing with Xanadu, so we should be able to see if 8 is going to be a decent pc version with decent accuracy well before release.
Ah, good point. Thought they went with the same pub as 8.
Looked up and they both seem set for late 2017. Would be odd if they both launch the same month. I think it's a mistake to launch them close to each other and cannibalize sales like that, but whatevs I guess.
Man, first Tokyo Xanadu and now this? I really hope XSEED gets to continue Trails, Ys without XSEED already feels off to me. :/
Damn.
Damn.
It's not really surprising that Falcom went with NISA for this one since they are working on a PC port and a French translation.
As much as I appreciate XSEED's efforts, it makes sense for Falcom to try expanding their audience. I very much doubt this would be possible with XSEED.
As much as I appreciate XSEED's efforts, it makes sense for Falcom to try expanding their audience. I very much doubt this would be possible with XSEED.
Zippedpinhead
Member
In for vita collectors edition... book and soundtrack? I'm in!
Hopefully if XSEED is on the outs with Falcom we still get trails games...
Hopefully if XSEED is on the outs with Falcom we still get trails games...
Yep. I'm there for the epic music and tubular boss fights.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
well, at least aksys didnt get its godawful hands on this one...still...xseed hasnt been doing a fantastic job with Ys, one that I dont expect NISA to match.
Still, its not Aksys so I'll play it anyway
Still, its not Aksys so I'll play it anyway
bishopcruz
Member
With NISA preorders do you get release day delivery with free shipping? I'm preorderingthe PS4 limited, but I don't want to wait to actually play the damned thing
Grim Patron
Member
What if the dub is like Atelier Sophie where there's less dialogue in EN than JP?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Hopefully Falcom doesn't think so little of their western audience that they would do that. If they did make that sort of agreement I wouldn't expect to ever see official releases of Zero/Ao in readable English. Would suck if XSEED was willing but just had no platform to release them on - PSP is long gone and PC would be a licensing mess they would likely avoid if history is anything to go by. Would basically need a PS4 port at that point.
Kresnik258
Member
Dream_Journey
Member
For also Steam? Fantastic news!!!
as much as possible they try to ship the week before so it arrives on the release date. shipping is free for united states orders over 75 bucks (so both skus)
Not so much part of the conversation, but I do want to point out that Falcom absolutely has, in the past, pulled things to force the licensing companies to do things with the products. Ys Online had an entire soap opera around it that ended up being a sudden change in hands because apparently the original company acted that the license wasn't someone else's property, but their own, specifically, and Falcom didn't like that.
Falcom's generally pretty passive about what you do with the license, with limits, but I've also personally seen that they will get snarly and protective about it if you misstep- and I feel that I can assume that this is even worse about the 'big two' - Kiseki and Ys.
What's so bad about Aksys?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
It's mostly that XSEED's localizations are apparently a step above NISA's (I don't think I've ever played a NISA game, but I see a lot of concern about the localization quality). And the fact XSEED is the company that put Ys in a position with the western audience that NISA would even be interested in going hard after it.
XSEED really built up the Falcom fanbase in the west in general with their releases, now NISA is stepping in and reaping the rewards for what has the potential to be the series' biggest release so far due to being a modern game on a home console and not just a portable, or an old release on PC.
bahamut zero
Member
Any hope VGP will also put up the limited editions? They did that in the past for other NISA store exclusives, right?
They did when NISA used to offer the limited editions to other retailers. It's back to being a NISA Store exclusive now, so no luck there.
Falcom is also a small company that needs to stay in operation. If there's a better deal on the table you take it. Business is business.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Of course, I don't disagree. Just pointing out why the publisher is made out to be a big deal. XSEED building up the series eventually led to it outgrowing their ability to license it. Falcom probably cut their right of first refusal deal since they didn't feel like they were getting as much as they could.
As long as it happens with Ys and not Trails, since that series has a whole lot more to lose by changing hands.
Pellegri Testament
Member
This LE really seems to be too big for them to throw to other retailers and lose money on it. In all honesty, I'm amazed they're charging what they are for either version even on their own store. Cloth posters are something they like to jack up the price on, not to mention they very rarely do hard cover artbooks or steelbooks. Yet they're only valuing all the extras at $40 over the regular edition this time around, not to mention that thing surely isn't cheap to ship and they're offering free shipping on it.