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Nintendo needs to let Pikmin go.

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Stoze

Member
No way, especially now because with the Switch we potentially have the ultimate control scheme for the series by using two Joy-Cons:

-Gyro for cursor movement
-Dual analog sticks for better camera control
-More buttons
-Everything going on one screen so I don't have to awkwardly bounce back and forth from TV to gamepad to fully optimize my play and view the whole map

Basically all the control methods of Pikmin 3 combined into one so there aren't any downsides, which was my main problem with that game. Otherwise it was excellent.

I bet they could find some good ways to utilize the HD rumble as well.
 
Teran

Teran

Member
Pikmin is a beautiful concept that must never go. It's certainly never going to be a blockbuster hit, but not everything in this industry has to cater to a mass audience. Having a diverse pool of IP is good for brand prestige, I think it's a fact that's often overlooked.
 
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Makonero

Member
DeuceGamer said:
Wait, didn't Pikmin 3 sell over a million copies, prior to the Nintendo Selects re-release on a failing Wii U console? That seems to me that it's an IP with a lot of potential. Obviously, not Mario tier, but one worth investing in moving forward as it helps their platforms have unique games and genre's that aren't well covered by others in console gaming.
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I doubt Pikmin has a much higher ceiling than 1/2 million, it just happens that the core nintendo base loves the series. It's definitely not a bad seller though.

Ultimately, I root for more games, not less.
 
A

Aaron Strife

Banned
(new Mario announced)

"Nintendo needs to take more risks! Same old IPs, nothing new!"

(Nintendo releases new entry in this quirky ass, niche IP like once every five years)

"I WANT MOAR METROID"
 
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Boem

Member
OrbitalBeard said:
Pikmin 1 released at the end of October, 2001 in Japan. The series is less than 15 and a half years old.
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Surely if we're going by your math (not just going by year but month as well) that would result in 16,5 years.

Or 16 years and 4 months.

Still, we're all old.

Edit: Oops no I'm an idiot. Time for bed I think.
 
V

Vitet

Member
raw
 
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Jonneh3003

Banned
DeuceGamer said:
Wait, didn't Pikmin 3 sell over a million copies, prior to the Nintendo Selects re-release on a failing Wii U console? That seems to me that it's an IP with a lot of potential. Obviously, not Mario tier, but one worth investing in moving forward as it helps their platforms have unique games and genre's that aren't well covered by others in console gaming.
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Yes, sadly for whatever reason a million doesn't seem like a lot to many people. It was a huge success especially given the installbase.
 
TDLink

TDLink

Member
Makonero said:
I doubt Pikmin has a much higher ceiling than 1/2 million, it just happens that the core nintendo base loves the series. It's definitely not a bad seller though.

Ultimately, I root for more games, not less.
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Based on history, this is true of the other franchises the OP listed as well.
 
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Combat Wombat

Banned
I'm not understanding your logic. Nintendo has abandoned a lot of their properties, so they should abandon this one as well? Metroid and Star Fox were doing just fine during the Gamecube era which funnily enough, got TWO Pikmin games. No reason they can't coexist.
 
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Jonneh3003

Banned
Makonero said:
I doubt Pikmin has a much higher ceiling than 1/2 million, it just happens that the core nintendo base loves the series. It's definitely not a bad seller though.

Ultimately, I root for more games, not less.
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Pretty sure Nintendo Selects games have to have sold over a million copies.
 
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enigmatic_alex44

Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
A Link to the Past said:
I understand OP's issue with Pikmin being given special treatment, but Pikmin isn't the problem, the problem is Metroid, F-Zero, and Star Fox being neglected.
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Yup I'd dump Pikmin in a second to bring back Metroid and Star Fox.

F-Zero can stay dead though.
 
TDLink

TDLink

Member
enigmatic_alex44 said:
Yup I'd dump Pikmin in a second to bring back Metroid and Star Fox.

F-Zero can stay dead though.
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That's not how game development works though. Metroid especially is a much higher budget project than Pikmin (unless you want a spin-off Metroid like Federation Force). And historically they've sold around the same amount...which means Pikmin is more profitable.
 
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jon bones

hot hot hanuman-on-man action
I only ever played Pikmin 3 and even I know you're wrong.

Miyamoto said Pikmin 4 is in the works, and I am eagerly awaiting it. Hopefully it features a robust pvp rts style mode.
 
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Wowfunhappy

Member
I get the sense that Miyomoto likes them.

*Shrug* I don't see anything wrong with the franchise. That 3DS game looks totally stupid, but that's like saying we should let Zelda go because Triforce Heroes was mediocre.
 
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TheDinoman

Member
A Link to the Past said:
I understand OP's issue with Pikmin being given special treatment, but Pikmin isn't the problem, the problem is Metroid, F-Zero, and Star Fox being neglected.
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I feel like Star Fox's problem isn't exactly "neglect", considering it got a new game only a little less than a year ago.

Its problem is that Nintendo ran it into the fucking ground with mediocre game after mediocre game. Star Fox 64 came out almost 20 years ago and there has been no good original title in the series since. Then after letting it sit for 10 years, they brought it back...with another half-hearted experimental title. It's saddening and maddening at the same time.

My guess is, they just think Star Fox 64 is the ultimate traditional SF game there will ever be, so now it's just sort of this weird experimental franchise. It's like how Miyamoto says he doesn't want to produce a new F-Zero because they can't figure out anything new to do with it.
 
Ultimadrago

Ultimadrago

Member
I don't like the Pikmin games, so I won't share the sensitivity some others in the thread are kneejerking with. However, dropping the series isn't something I see as being directly beneficial to me as a consumer or to Nintendo's currently rotting franchises.

Let it be, I guess.
 
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Makonero

Member
Kthulhu said:
Yup. They need to start actually listening to what the fans want instead of pumping out garbage that they think we want.
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Lol! If they listened to you, they'd make no money and never try anything new. I want Nintendo to make what they want. I want surprises like Splatoon.
 
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clay_ghost

Member
People have made decent Metroid clone.

No one have made a good Pikmin clone yet.


Nintendo should stick with and continue to make what no one else is delivering.
 
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Oersted

Member
Just like what happened to Starfox,

-A new game? There have been four Star Fox (not counting Guard) titles since the first Pikmin.


F-Zero

- true enough. They did try Criterion to make it tho


and what's happening right now with Metroid

- right now is a rather short timeline. We had 4 new main entries, 2 spinnoffs, a remake and a collection.



Could it be that this is more about you wanting more from these franchises.
 
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Crayolan

Member
Why are you complaining about a series people like continuing to receive games? Pikmin getting new entries and your favorite series getting new entries are not mutually exclusive.

Stop being a dick.
 
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Kthulhu

Member
Makonero said:
Lol! If they listened to you, they'd make no money and never try anything new. I want Nintendo to make what they want. I want surprises like Splatoon.
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So they should pump out shit that makes no money and gets massive backlash like Federation Force and Star Fox Zero?

You can make new IPs without fucking up the old ones.
 
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