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[Ubernube]

4? Mine shows over 40? They complain about game length.

Noticed that too. Seems like a lot of people are writing their reviews after getting the first ending. I hear things change drastically at the third playthrough on (correct me if I'm wrong) so it seems like many of them haven't gotten that far yet.

A few are complaining about bugs and glitches as well, typically with quests.

 

[Anoxida]

I see 4 when I search "Nier Automata Amazon JP" on Google and click the first link.

Google amazon jp instead. go into site then type nier automata in search bar. You'll see the other one. I think you're looking at the deluxe version or something.

 

[Cikay]

Why are the reviews scores so low on Amazon JP ?

I thought this game would be a masterpiece.

 

[wmlk]

Google amazon jp instead. go into site then type nier automata in search bar. You'll see the other one. I think you're looking at the deluxe version or something.

I found the actual one. The one I was looking at was the overseas version on Amazon JP lol.

 

[Anoxida]

Noticed that too. Seems like a lot of people are writing their reviews after getting the first ending. I hear things change drastically at the third playthrough on (correct me if I'm wrong) so it seems like many of them haven't gotten that far yet.

A few are complaining about bugs and glitches as well, typically with quests.

I really need confirmation on this though. I wont buy the game if it's the same game over and over again with a few new cutscenes. It needs to be a big difference in routes for me to consider buying. Guess I'll just sit back and wait.

 

[Makikou]

Welp. I suck so hard after a break when I havent played the demo. I even forgot that holding square and triangle make diff attacks than tapping them.

 

[TissueBox]

Right now I'd call the game competent. Very competent. And consistently good, because it has a strong DNA. The open world is a bit dull (same old post-apocalypse) and the enemies can vary from being a breeze to repetitive to gloriously intense. But overall it's quite solid, and seems to be the type to get better over time (and if you wish to take your time, you most certainly can).

Once I get a good grasp on the story I'll be able to judge it as a Taro game but I haven't gone through a whole route yet. ^^'

 

[JPS Kai]

I haven't heard anything on getting review code from SE, so i might bite and get the digital version today.

Is the 500HK download still the best deal for ENG?

 

[black070]

I really need confirmation on this though. I wont buy the game if it's the same game over and over again with a few new cutscenes. It needs to be a big difference in routes for me to consider buying. Guess I'll just sit back and wait.

Pretty much this.

 

[Kazuo Hirai]

It's only been four reviews so far. If it stays at near 1.5 stars on Amazon I'll be surprised, especially considering this looked to resonate a lot with dedicated Japanese gamers. Taro can screw with people though, and JP reviews latch on to some of the dumbest things (like with Alicia, lol).

There're 42 reviews ,3.2/5
I use google translate,reviews seems reasonable

 

[Jb]

Why are the reviews scores so low on Amazon JP ?

I thought this game would be a masterpiece.

From what I gathered complaints on the game's length mostly although it's not really clear if they're just talking about reaching ending A or the entire game.

Even then in the original Nier getting to the other endings didn't suddenly unlock entire new gameplay segments, only story stuff.

 

[Wesley-Sigma]

PSNProfiles is not 100% accurate, but if it is anything to go by, I am the farthest one in the game globally.

I don't believe that the Japanese reviewers are submitting the reviews beyond Ending A.

 

[Darobga]

Regarding additional content in endings B, C, etc.

Spoiler

Having seen about 18+ hours of gameplay, ending B is basically the A line with a different POV and some alternate scenes/gameplay. Ending C route so far is all post A and new content, although some of it takes place in previous areas

 

[Kazuo Hirai]

I don't believe that the Japanese reviewers are submitting the reviews beyond Ending A.

The 5 stars reviews seems usually from who play 2 hours, 2 stars reviews from Ending A

 

[Punished_Snake]

There're 42 reviews ,3.2/5
I use google translate,reviews seems reasonable

Why are they saying? complaining about the length of the game?

 

[Anoxida]

From what I gathered complaints on the game's length mostly although it's not really clear if they're just talking about reaching ending A or the entire game.

Even then in the original Nier getting to the other endings didn't suddenly unlock entire new gameplay segments, only story stuff.

I don't like the "it has multiple endings/routes" as a defense to a game's length. If the routes are VERY different then yes, that's considered additional content. If it's 95% of the same game each route then it basically takes less than 10 hours to have nearly seen everything this game has to offer. That's not 25-35 hours worth of content stated in the OP. Now, there's a lot of people who loves to replay games and have no problem with this. But I think a lot of people, if not the majority, like to beat a game and then move on, unless there's substantial new content to be had. I guess the jury is still out on this one though, but from what I'm hearing so far it does not bode well for my purchase.

 

[Guymelef]

Am I "reading" (via Google translator) well Amazon reviews?
7-9 hours long is really dissapointing.

 

[Jiraiza]

Unbelievable.

Spoiler

Not only do you have to fight that shitty crab a second time with even more movesets, I somehow bugged the event so now the little shit robots are infinitely spawning even at the beginning of the encounter.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

 

[RulkezX]

I really need confirmation on this though. I wont buy the game if it's the same game over and over again with a few new cutscenes. It needs to be a big difference in routes for me to consider buying. Guess I'll just sit back and wait.

This is where I'm at. Not in the slightest bit interested in just playing the same content over and over.

 

[wmlk]

I don't like the "it has multiple endings/routes" as a defense to a game's length. If the routes are VERY different then yes, that's considered additional content. If it's 95% of the same game each route then it basically takes less than 10 hours to have nearly seen everything this game has to offer. That's not 25-35 hours worth of content stated in the OP. Now, there's a lot of people who loves to replay games and have no problem with this. But I think a lot of people, if not the majority, like to beat a game and then move on, unless there's substantial new content to be had. I guess the jury is still out on this one though, but from what I'm hearing so far it does not bode well for my purchase.

There could be good approaches to this, like the beginning second playthrough of the original Nier having one of the best parts of the entire game with the visual novel section and backstory on Kaine. Though, after that, there weren't many entirely new things in the multiple playthroughs that I cared for. I just YouTube'd it eventually.

 

[Punished_Snake]

Am I "reading" (via Google translator) well Amazon reviews?
7-9 hours long is really dissapointing.

I think with side quests and exploring the world it will take me 15-20 hours for the first ending, which is good imo.

 

[Philippo]

@Jiraiza: i'm not going to click but that reaction is intriguing, is it a very Yoko Taro thing?

Am I "reading" (via Google translator) well Amazon reviews?
7-9 hours long is really dissapointing.

Only to reach Ending A.

 

[KORNdoggy]

Am I "reading" (via Google translator) well Amazon reviews?
7-9 hours long is really dissapointing.

it's about how long it took me to complete skyrims story. as long as that number is JUST the main story, i'm ok with it as long as there is a ton of side stuff to do on top of it. if that's the game, 100%, then yeah, that's no good.

 

[GwyndolinCinder]

Wow another one shot. Why game why.

 

[Intel_89]

I don't like the "it has multiple endings/routes" as a defense to a game's length. If the routes are VERY different then yes, that's considered additional content. If it's 95% of the same game each route then it basically takes less than 10 hours to have nearly seen everything this game has to offer. That's not 25-35 hours worth of content stated in the OP. Now, there's a lot of people who loves to replay games and have no problem with this. But I think a lot of people, if not the majority, like to beat a game and then move on, unless there's substantial new content to be had. I guess the jury is still out on this one though, but from what I'm hearing so far it does not bode well for my purchase.

I agree but I find it hard to understand why every single game needs to be a 50h+ experience, I'd much rather have the fat trimmed off of my piece of meat.

 

[wmlk]

I agree but I find it hard to understand why every single game needs to be a 50h+ experience, I'd much rather have the fat trimmed off of my piece of meat.

Well, what Anoxida is saying is exactly what you're worried about: that the game has a lot of fat within the 40 or so hours of content because a lot of the stuff from multiple playthroughs is repeated stuff from the first playthrough.

 

[Guymelef]

@Jiraiza: i'm not going to click but that reaction is intriguing, is it a very Yoko Taro thing?



Only to reach Ending A.

And how is Ending B replay?
The problem is if Ending B is the same with minor content maybe I choose the Youtube route for it.

I never replay games just after finish the first run.

 

[Anoxida]

Well, what Anoxida is saying is exactly what you're worried about: that the game has a lot of fat within the 40 or so hours of content because a lot of the stuff from multiple playthroughs is stuff from the first playthrough.

Yep, I have to basically get through all the fat to see the true ending or whatever. Me no likey.

Add to that, I have only X amount of money to spend on games so if I can get 40+ hours of unique content playing Horizon for example then I might chose that over this game. I'm not saying this game objectively worse off for being this way, I'm just saying it ain't for me.

 

[Philippo]

And how is Ending B replay?
The problem is if Ending B is the same with minor content maybe I choose the Youtube route for it.

I never replay games just after finish the first run.

Apparently

Spoiler

Ending B is kinda like A but with a new POV (think of NieR 1), while C seems to be new content.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Yeah, I finished the first game once and watched the rest on Youtube. This has good gameplay so I might get the other endings too.

 

[Kain-Nosgoth]

people, save your game, and then go the the chip menu... there's the OS chip...

Spoiler

Remove it, you will get ending T, ho yoko taro, you silly guy

 

[Jb]

I don't like the "it has multiple endings/routes" as a defense to a game's length. If the routes are VERY different then yes, that's considered additional content. If it's 95% of the same game each route then it basically takes less than 10 hours to have nearly seen everything this game has to offer. That's not 25-35 hours worth of content stated in the OP.

Oh I very much agree. This wasn't me defending the alleged 7-9h length of the first playthrough, I'm just saying right now it's not really clear if there's a bunch of hidden gameplay stuff that gets unlocked after that or not.

 

[Intel_89]

Well, what Anoxida is saying is exactly what you're worried about: that the game has a lot of fat within the 40 or so hours of content because a lot of the stuff from multiple playthroughs is repeated stuff from the first playthrough.

I was directly relating to the statement where he mentions that one playthrough should be rich enough in terms of length to justify the asking price, ofcourse the idea of multipl playthroughs to see the big picture kinda defeats this but I'm sure that the first romp through the game will be a satisfying one.

 

[Jiraiza]

Ah fuck it, tuning down to Easy because this encounter is pissing me off so much. Not to mention I made it impossible with that stupid infinite spawning bug.

 

[TheKingOfPain]

PSNProfiles is not 100% accurate, but if it is anything to go by, I am the farthest one in the game globally.

I don't believe that the Japanese reviewers are submitting the reviews beyond Ending A.

jesus christ, many of the trophies you have still show 0.00%

 

[Anoxida]

Also I would like to add that this having a lot more RPG elements than Nier.. I feel like rpg systems just can't be deep and involved enough in that short amount of time it takes to clear the game. Or do you keep levels, items etc?

What I hear about Route C might sway me back into buying this though. I think I'll probably need to wait until someone actually finishes the whole damn thing before I can make up my mind.

 

[GwyndolinCinder]

Ah fuck it, tuning down to Easy because this encounter is pissing me off so much. Not to mention I made it impossible with that stupid infinite spawning bug.

Is there any point not playin very hard ? If your doing hard?

 

[Kazuo Hirai]

The premium edition is $HK675, standard is $HK398
What SE want to do?

 

[Jiraiza]

Is there any point not playin very hard ? If your doing hard?

You're essentially playing Very Hard a few hours into the game. It's way overtuned. You have to stack HP chips or get damage reduction chips to actually survive a hit, and it's pretty dumb. Or you could be perfect at dodging, but I wanted to play Hard with some mistakes here and there. Expecting a no-mistake run is what Very Hard is for, or that's what it should've been for, anyway. At this point it's not worth the frustration, especially in my case since I bugged my encounter pretty bad.

smh

That said, I'm sure playing for 17 hours straight has something to do with my butthurt, but I digress.

 

[Wesley-Sigma]

The 5 stars reviews seems usually from who play 2 hours, 2 stars reviews from Ending A

Makes sense. Good first impressions but Ending A leads them to believe that the game is really short.

jesus christ, many of the trophies you have still show 0.00%

Noticed that too.

 

[Xliskin]

You're essentially playing Very Hard a few hours into the game. It's way overtuned. You have to stack HP chips or get damage reduction chips to actually survive a hit, and it's pretty dumb. Or you could be perfect at dodging, but I wanted to play Hard with some mistakes here and there. Expecting a no-mistake run is what Very Hard is for, or that's what it should've been for, anyway. At this point it's not worth the frustration, especially in my case since I bugged my encounter pretty bad.

smh

That said, I'm sure playing for 17 hours straight has something to do with my butthurt, but I digress.

Is the lock on not allowed in hard ?!

 

[Experimenter]

Is the lock on not allowed in hard ?!

No but it doesn't really matter. In fact from the demo at least the game plays amazing without lock on.

 

[Ubernube]

Makes sense. Good first impressions but Ending A leads them to believe that the game is really short.


Noticed that too.

You'd think given how Nier and Drakengard are cult classics over there they'd know that the first playthrough isn't the full game, although I imagine a lot of those reviews are people new to the series.

I wonder how reviews will change once people start getting to the third ending on.

Amusingly, I noticed quite a few of the positive reviews are people complaining about the negative reviews complaining about the game length, saying things like how this is what Nier does and that they should get all the endings before writing their reviews.

 

[GwyndolinCinder]

You're essentially playing Very Hard a few hours into the game. It's way overtuned. You have to stack HP chips or get damage reduction chips to actually survive a hit, and it's pretty dumb. Or you could be perfect at dodging, but I wanted to play Hard with some mistakes here and there. Expecting a no-mistake run is what Very Hard is for, or that's what it should've been for, anyway. At this point it's not worth the frustration, especially in my case since I bugged my encounter pretty bad.

smh

That said, I'm sure playing for 17 hours straight has something to do with my butthurt, but I digress.

I wouldn't really mind that much , but having to go through 40 minutes each time to get one shot is ridiculous. Like if it's there to encourage you to use the rpg systems that is fine , but right now oh have no options, it's like playing the witcher without quen.

Is there checkpoints in the game usually ?

 

[Kyonashi]

Watched this recap video last night of the Drakengard/NieR series, and despite never having played a single Yoko Taro game, my hype for Automata went from a 10 to an 11.

This universe and its weird melding of sci-fi, fantasy, bio-horror and anime-esque tropes is fascinating.

 

[Jiraiza]

I wouldn't really mind that much , but having to go through 40 minutes each time to get one shot is ridiculous. Like if it's there to encourage you to use the rpg systems that is fine , but right now oh have no options, it's like playing the witcher without quen.

Is there checkpoints in the game usually ?

Usuaslly one or two.

 

[tiebreaker]

How are the side quests??

 

[GwyndolinCinder]

Usuaslly one or two.

Maybe I'll just boot up very hard later than, gotta go do an exam ,but I'm bummed my playtime was basically useless this morning . Aside from OHKO restarts, the opening was solid.

 

[GoodMorningPluto]

So how many endings are there? And how similar are the playthroughs?
How is the story in this game and how it compares to previous Yoko Taro games?

 

[Philippo]

The thing is, i generally agree with those that says that games which require multiple playthroughs have to at least offer new content on NG+.

But, NieR is the one exception i make on this. Because with the first NieR (and Drakengard to extend), i learned that these games, when played through a second time, what they don't give you in terms of new content, they do in terms of story exposition, and another narrative key to understand what's going on, and sometimes it completely changes your perception of the game.

So i guess, if you value your story more, don't be afraid of taking on a second playthrough that might or might not be a bit boring, you're going to be rewarded.