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Oscars: Chaos on stage after 'Moonlight' wins best Picture

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see5harp

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Despite seeing this thread multiple times over two days, I just read it as Chao's on stage. Like a huge family of Asian people just rushed the stage after La La Land won.
 

CloudWolf

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Feel bad for the La La cast.

They're probably laughing it off. I mean, La La Land is still one of the highest rated movies of the year and they won 6 Oscars in different categories. Honestly, winning an Oscar isn't as big of a deal as the media makes it.

That said, it's a nice recognition when a film needs it, so I'm personally happy Moonlight won despite liking La La Land more.
 

GK86

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Link.

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A managing partner at PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP posted a celebrity photo on Twitter backstage at the Academy Awards Sunday night just minutes before he mistakenly gave an envelope to actor Warren Beatty that set off the disastrous announcement of the wrong best-picture winner.

Brian Cullinan, one of two PwC partners holding envelopes with the names of Oscar winners, tweeted “Best Actress Emma Stone backstage! #PWC” along with a photo of the actress at 9:05 p.m. Pacific time. That was approximately three minutes before Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway walked on stage to present the award for best picture.

Mr. Cullinan gave Mr. Beatty the envelope that was supposed to contain the name of the best-picture winner, people close to the production said. In reality, however, Mr. Beatty was given a duplicate copy of the envelope containing Ms. Stone’s name as best actress. As a result, Ms. Dunaway mistakenly named “La La Land,” in which Ms. Stone starred, as best picture.

Mr. Cullinan deleted the tweet, apparently on Monday morning; The Wall Street Journal has seen copies of the tweet, including a version publicly accessible on Google’s servers.

Mr. Cullinan posted other photos on Twitter during the awards show that were also apparently deleted, said a person with knowledge of the matter.
 
I feel bad for them only for the moment that it happened. Both movies got a lot of praise and more people are talking about Moonlight than would have if it just won outright.
 
The people behind La La Land have no reason to be sad. It was a monster hit, won a lot of awards is likely to well remembered for years for helping to jumpstar the Musical again. It will be the Saving Private Ryan to Moonlight's Shakespeare in Love. The superior, more memorable film that lost to a film soon to be forgotten.
 

GK86

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Was this posted? - Link is LAist, not Breitbart.

”I think they were focused so hard on politics that they didn't get the act together at the end," President Trump told Breitbart. ”It was a little sad. It took away from the glamour of the Oscars. It didn't feel like a very glamorous evening. I've been to the Oscars. There was something very special missing, and then to end that way was sad."
 

Violet_0

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I don't know why everyone is acting like this is such a huge deal. It's a bit funny, a bit embarrassing, everyone involved should be happy about the headlines and free marketing boost and someone is going to get fired even though, really, they deserve a promotion
 

LionPride

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The people behind La La Land have no reason to be sad. It was a monster hit, won a lot of awards is likely to well remembered for years for helping to jumpstar the Musical again. It will be the Saving Private Ryan to Moonlight's Shakespeare in Love. The superior, more memorable film that lost to a film soon to be forgotten.
What the hell? So a Black Gay movie that is fantastic, is the first LGBT movie to win an Oscar, is again fucking fantastic, will be forgotten in comparison to a movie that is good, but not great? A movie that was a musical with two people who can't sing?
 

Monocle

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The people behind La La Land have no reason to be sad. It was a monster hit, won a lot of awards is likely to well remembered for years for helping to jumpstar the Musical again. It will be the Saving Private Ryan to Moonlight's Shakespeare in Love. The superior, more memorable film that lost to a film soon to be forgotten.
Wait, what?
 

see5harp

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The people behind La La Land have no reason to be sad. It was a monster hit, won a lot of awards is likely to well remembered for years for helping to jumpstar the Musical again. It will be the Saving Private Ryan to Moonlight's Shakespeare in Love. The superior, more memorable film that lost to a film soon to be forgotten.

Ya okay.
 
The mere fact that more people saw La La Land should tell you it'll end up being more remembered. I don't think it's a knock to Moonlight that La La Land may end up with a longer lasting legacy, it's just the reality of the situation.
 

Budi

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What the hell? So a Black Gay movie that is fantastic, is the first LGBT movie to win an Oscar, is again fucking fantastic, will be forgotten in comparison to a movie that is good, but not great? A movie that was a musical with two people who can't sing?

Not the person you posted to, but while Moonlight definitely had more important subject matter especially in the current climate and told more touching story imo. I too think that La La Land has better chance of being remembered as an all time classic unfortunately. I think Moonlight deserves that too though. Both are excellent films and while I get it that they were competing for the same prize, I don't think either one deserves bashing on others expense.

Edit: And ofcourse it will be very fondly remembered by African American and LGBT community regardless. But no so much with bigger audience, I mean it's about minorities afterall.
 
Can't wait for Hollywood to be overrun by musicals because of the massive, insurmountable impact La La Land has seemingly made on the industry.
 

Shepard

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People think Moonlight will be better remembered than La la land? Most people nowadays dont know what Moonlight is about, will be even worse a year from now. The comparison with shakespeare in love i dumb, though, Moonlight is actually good.
 

LionPride

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Not the person you posted to, but while Moonlight definitely had more important subject matter especially in the current climate and told more touching story imo. I too think that La La Land has better chance of being remembered as an all time classic unfortunately. I think Moonlight deserves that too though. Both are excellent films and while I get it that they were competing for the same prize, I don't think either one deserves bashing on others expense.
Saying Moonlight will be forgotten in comparison to La La Land is just stupid. If anything, both will be remembered, LLL for being a love letter to older musicals and a decent film to boot, and Moonlight for being a wonderful movie about a subject you don't really see anything about, at least when it comes to black people.
 

Tagyhag

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The mere fact that more people saw La La Land should tell you it'll end up being more remembered. I don't think it's a knock to Moonlight that La La Land may end up with a longer lasting legacy, it's just the reality of the situation.

That depends on what each movie is remembered for, of course, because of this whole debacle, both will be remembered imo.

That said, I disagree with your metric in general. Transformers: Dark of the Moon made over $1.1 billion at the box office, who even remembers the plot of that film?
 

Budi

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Saying Moonlight will be forgotten in comparison to La La Land is just stupid. If anything, both will be remembered, LLL for being a love letter to older musicals and a decent film to boot, and Moonlight for being a wonderful movie about a subject you don't really see anything about, at least when it comes to black people.

Yeah I agree, I voted in Neogaf movie of the year voting myself. And my only regret is placing Moonlight too low. I saw it just few days ago and didn't have enough time to process it. I think I would have placed it above La La Land maybe even Arrival. Definitely over Hacksaw Ridge.

Edit: Also comparing Moonlight to Shakespeare in love makes it seem that the person really just wanted to rile people up.

I would have been fine with this.

Robbed! In so many categories.
 

Staccat0

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The weird thing about Moonlight is how many people sell it short by saying it's a movie about empathy and LGBT issues and race issues.

It's actually a good ass movie that normalizes those things by not being "about"' them. Instead, it's a movie that usss nagatice space in the narrative to add a lot of subtle layers to a story.

I dunno. I really like Moonlight and it bums me out that the innovative stuff about it gets glazed over by the more obvious social implications. .
 

LionPride

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The weird thing about Moonlight is how many people sell it short by saying it's a movie about empathy and LGBT issues and race issues.

It's actually a good ass movie that normalizes those things by not being "about"' them. Instead, it's a movie that usss nagatice space in the narrative to add a lot of subtle layers to a story.

I dunno. I really like Moonlight and it bums me out that the innovative stuff about it gets glazed over by the more obvious social impact.
It matters a lot though that a movie about a black gay man and his journey through life and his love and loss won best picture. That people, black or not, want to see this movie. When it comes to tolerance of our LGBT brothers, sisters, and non-binary peers, we kinda fall a bit behind at least in my experience. We're coming back and doing better, but this means a lot.
 

Sanjuro

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It matters a lot though that a movie about a black gay man and his journey through life and his love and loss won best picture. That people, black or not, want to see this movie. When it comes to tolerance of our LGBT brothers, sisters, and non-binary peers, we kinda fall a bit behind. We're coming back and doing better, but this means a lot.

I just wish it was a more complete film.
 

Staccat0

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It matters a lot though that a movie about a black gay man and his journey through life and his love and loss won best picture. That people, black or not, want to see this movie. When it comes to tolerance of our LGBT brothers, sisters, and non-binary peers, we kinda fall a bit behind at least in my experience. We're coming back and doing better, but this means a lot.
Oh totally! That's super dope, but even moreso (to me as a movie nerd) is that it's maybe the most aggressively artsy and challenging film to win best picture in my lifetime.

If they were straight white people it would still be something I have never seen.
 

Staccat0

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I just wish it was a more complete film.
That's a weird critique to me. Moonlight uses a storytelling device and has recurring themes about absence and negative space.

If you took a cat and drew everything around it's outline, but left the page blank where the cat is, you would still see the cat but it says something different about the subject.

The movie is as much about what is NOT there as what IS there. Very cool.
 

Sanjuro

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That's a weird critique to me. Moonlight uses a storytelling device and has recurring themes about absence and negative space.

If you took a cat and drew everything around it's outline, but left the page blank where the cat is, you would still see the cat but it says something different about the subject.

There are quite a bit of bad actors in the film and a arc which cuts off some of the better performances.

I'm still glad it won in comparison to the nominated films.
 

amaretto

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Oh totally! That's super dope, but even moreso (to me as a movie nerd) is that it's maybe the most aggressively artsy and challenging film to win best picture in my lifetime.

If they were straight white people it would still be something I have never seen.

Totally agree on your first point. Ever since I saw it last year I neverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr thought Moonlight had a snowball's chance in hell at a BP win because not only is it a queer black film w/ no big names but it is, as you said, aggressively artsy and challenging. It's like Wong Kar-Wai's take on the Miami LGBT scene. Something I could see Sight & Sound or Cahiers going crazy for but not the ultimately populist & milquetoast Oscar crowd going for.

I mean just LAST year Carol was majorly snubbed and now this?!
 
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