Haha yeah, they're totally similar. Is this a hyperbolic attempt at idontlikething,jog?
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Oscars: Chaos on stage after 'Moonlight' wins best Picture
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Haha yeah, they're totally similar. Is this a hyperbolic attempt at idontlikething,jog?
What did he mean by this?
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Matt Damon has a envelope on stage right.
Martha Ruiz has a envelope on stage left.
It's the last award of the night. The biggest award of the night. The process is simple. The presenter comes from stage right - receiving the winning envelope from Matt/Martha. They read the envelope, meet the winners and proceed to stage left, handing the envelope to Martha/Matt. Again, it's a simple process. One that has functioned perfectly for 88 years, gentlemen.
But something went wrong tonight, didn't it? The envelope for Best Actress found its way to stage right somehow despite seemingly being checked on stage left.
Matt or Martha hand Warren the envelope as he goes on stage and it's the wrong letter. A scarlet letter for The Academy. A black mark. It would be outrageous if it weren't so insidious.
An unlikely suspect emerges. Leonardo Dicaprio was the last non-Academy representative holding that envelope that night. Perhaps jilted by his decades of snubs, Leo decided to seek satisfaction from his oppressors. He fiendishly swapped out the winning card as he slinked his way backstage.
Poor Warren Beatty never stood a chance.
Fortunately hard evidence proves Leo's innocence, but without concrete leads on any other culprit's -- we are left with the final mystery of guilt.
Of course, what of guilt? By the legal definition, it signifies liability but in emotional terms it is a signal of responsibility. To do the right thing, to have a clear conscience...
But what if the man responsible had no conscience. What if there was a man so insane, so deranged, so addicted to chaos and mayhem that -- when the opportunity presented itself -- he would sabotage his own film?
Watch him again: he smiles then moves back, and to the left. Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left.
Does this not look like a man capable of such an abhorrent act? Look beyond the facts, and feel with your gut. Smiling as his friends give their speeches, smiling as panicked producers rush on stage, smiling as the magical moment is stripped from them.5
What kind of man could do this? Yes, what kind of monster indeed.
Martha Ruiz has a envelope on stage left.
It's the last award of the night. The biggest award of the night. The process is simple. The presenter comes from stage right - receiving the winning envelope from Matt/Martha. They read the envelope, meet the winners and proceed to stage left, handing the envelope to Martha/Matt. Again, it's a simple process. One that has functioned perfectly for 88 years, gentlemen.
But something went wrong tonight, didn't it? The envelope for Best Actress found its way to stage right somehow despite seemingly being checked on stage left.
Matt or Martha hand Warren the envelope as he goes on stage and it's the wrong letter. A scarlet letter for The Academy. A black mark. It would be outrageous if it weren't so insidious.
An unlikely suspect emerges. Leonardo Dicaprio was the last non-Academy representative holding that envelope that night. Perhaps jilted by his decades of snubs, Leo decided to seek satisfaction from his oppressors. He fiendishly swapped out the winning card as he slinked his way backstage.
Poor Warren Beatty never stood a chance.
Fortunately hard evidence proves Leo's innocence, but without concrete leads on any other culprit's -- we are left with the final mystery of guilt.
Of course, what of guilt? By the legal definition, it signifies liability but in emotional terms it is a signal of responsibility. To do the right thing, to have a clear conscience...
But what if the man responsible had no conscience. What if there was a man so insane, so deranged, so addicted to chaos and mayhem that -- when the opportunity presented itself -- he would sabotage his own film?
Watch him again: he smiles then moves back, and to the left. Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left.
Does this not look like a man capable of such an abhorrent act? Look beyond the facts, and feel with your gut. Smiling as his friends give their speeches, smiling as panicked producers rush on stage, smiling as the magical moment is stripped from them.5
What kind of man could do this? Yes, what kind of monster indeed.
BronsonLee
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also real being real, this wouldn'tve happened if they didn't have two old people on stage and Faye wasn't plastered
Jigolo
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lolMatt Damon has a envelope on stage right.
Martha Ruiz has a envelope on stage left.
It's the last award of the night. The biggest award of the night. The process is simple. The presenter comes from stage right - receiving the winning envelope from Matt/Martha. They read the envelope, meet the winners and proceed to stage left, handing the envelope to Martha/Matt. Again, it's a simple process. One that has functioned perfectly for 88 years, gentlemen.
But something went wrong tonight, didn't it? The envelope for Best Actress found its way to stage right somehow despite seemingly being checked on stage left.
Matt or Martha hand Warren the envelope as he goes on stage and it's the wrong letter. A scarlet letter for The Academy. A black mark. It would be outrageous if it weren't so insidious.
An unlikely suspect emerges. Leonardo Dicaprio was the last non-Academy representative holding that envelope that night. Perhaps jilted by his decades of snubs, Leo decided to seek satisfaction from his oppressors. He fiendishly swapped out the winning card as he slinked his way backstage.
Poor Warren Beatty never stood a chance.
Fortunately hard evidence proves Leo's innocence, but without concrete leads on any other culprit's -- we are left with the final mystery of guilt.
Of course, what of guilt? By the legal definition, it signifies liability but in emotional terms it is a signal of responsibility. To do the right thing, to have a clear conscience...
But what if the man responsible had no conscience. What if there was a man so insane, so deranged, so addicted to chaos and mayhem that -- when the opportunity presented itself -- he would sabotage his own film?
Watch him again: he smiles then moves back, and to the left. Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left.
Does this not look like a man capable of such an abhorrent act? Look beyond the facts, and feel with your gut. Smiling as his friends give their speeches, smiling as panicked producers rush on stage, smiling as the magical moment is stripped from them.5
What kind of man could do this? Yes, what kind of monster indeed.
Messofanego
Banned
I don't think the people who made Moonlight are rich.
If the envelope does not fit, you must acquit.
While I agree ppl prob take it more seriously than they should,
I strongly disagree with your second point. Celebrating art and artists regardless of how well off they are is valid and appropriate.
Meryl Streep has the best reaction
This is so meme-able.
But surely they have to always use the same set as the night progresses, otherwise they run the risk of this happening for every award don't they?
What happens to the cards once the award has been presented? Maybe it was given back to the PWC rep and then he passed it out again to Beatty by mistake?
Meryl Streep has the best reaction
I don't know, The Rock has some eyebrow going.
Riposte
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I think the spectacle and the self-importance of the Oscars takes away from that if anything. The arts are celebrated on every level, from fans to major publications, but centralizing merit onto "THE BIG AWARDS THAT ACTUALLY MATTER" which is bumped up by millions of dollars seems to end up with a lot more controversy and campaigning overshadowing the craft.
Violence Jack
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Matt Damon has a envelope on stage right.
Martha Ruiz has a envelope on stage left.
It's the last award of the night. The biggest award of the night. The process is simple. The presenter comes from stage right - receiving the winning envelope from Matt/Martha. They read the envelope, meet the winners and proceed to stage left, handing the envelope to Martha/Matt. Again, it's a simple process. One that has functioned perfectly for 88 years, gentlemen.
But something went wrong tonight, didn't it? The envelope for Best Actress found its way to stage right somehow despite seemingly being checked on stage left.
Matt or Martha hand Warren the envelope as he goes on stage and it's the wrong letter. A scarlet letter for The Academy. A black mark. It would be outrageous if it weren't so insidious.
An unlikely suspect emerges. Leonardo Dicaprio was the last non-Academy representative holding that envelope that night. Perhaps jilted by his decades of snubs, Leo decided to seek satisfaction from his oppressors. He fiendishly swapped out the winning card as he slinked his way backstage.
Poor Warren Beatty never stood a chance.
Fortunately hard evidence proves Leo's innocence, but without concrete leads on any other culprit's -- we are left with the final mystery of guilt.
Of course, what of guilt? By the legal definition, it signifies liability but in emotional terms it is a signal of responsibility. To do the right thing, to have a clear conscience...
But what if the man responsible had no conscience. What if there was a man so insane, so deranged, so addicted to chaos and mayhem that -- when the opportunity presented itself -- he would sabotage his own film?
Watch him again: he smiles then moves back, and to the left. Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left.
Does this not look like a man capable of such an abhorrent act? Look beyond the facts, and feel with your gut. Smiling as his friends give their speeches, smiling as panicked producers rush on stage, smiling as the magical moment is stripped from them.5
What kind of man could do this? Yes, what kind of monster indeed.
Stop that. He's a real human being, and a real hero.
Zoe
Member
No, Emma Stone said she had her card.
con-ca-te-nate
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You cheeky bastard lol.
greatestjediever
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Matt Damon has a envelope on stage right.
Martha Ruiz has a envelope on stage left.
It's the last award of the night. The biggest award of the night. The process is simple. The presenter comes from stage right - receiving the winning envelope from Matt/Martha. They read the envelope, meet the winners and proceed to stage left, handing the envelope to Martha/Matt. Again, it's a simple process. One that has functioned perfectly for 88 years, gentlemen.
But something went wrong tonight, didn't it? The envelope for Best Actress found its way to stage right somehow despite seemingly being checked on stage left.
Matt or Martha hand Warren the envelope as he goes on stage and it's the wrong letter. A scarlet letter for The Academy. A black mark. It would be outrageous if it weren't so insidious.
An unlikely suspect emerges. Leonardo Dicaprio was the last non-Academy representative holding that envelope that night. Perhaps jilted by his decades of snubs, Leo decided to seek satisfaction from his oppressors. He fiendishly swapped out the winning card as he slinked his way backstage.
Poor Warren Beatty never stood a chance.
Fortunately hard evidence proves Leo's innocence, but without concrete leads on any other culprit's -- we are left with the final mystery of guilt.
Of course, what of guilt? By the legal definition, it signifies liability but in emotional terms it is a signal of responsibility. To do the right thing, to have a clear conscience...
But what if the man responsible had no conscience. What if there was a man so insane, so deranged, so addicted to chaos and mayhem that -- when the opportunity presented itself -- he would sabotage his own film?
Watch him again: he smiles then moves back, and to the left. Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left.
Does this not look like a man capable of such an abhorrent act? Look beyond the facts, and feel with your gut. Smiling as his friends give their speeches, smiling as panicked producers rush on stage, smiling as the magical moment is stripped from them.5
What kind of man could do this? Yes, what kind of monster indeed.
Vincent Alexander
Member
Who is the black actor in the damn nice white suit up front-left? I think he has my favorite expression. It's very Mona Lisa...so much hidden in there. I want to know his thoughts.
Meryl Streep has the best reaction
Braag
Member
I watched the clip on youtube and did the mistake of looking at the comments.
FIlled to the brim with Trump supporters who were weirdly happy at the mistake which to them meant that Hollywood shouldn't criticize Trump since they also caused a mess with the awards.
They were seriously comparing a mixup with the envelopes to all the shit Trump has been pulling off.
FIlled to the brim with Trump supporters who were weirdly happy at the mistake which to them meant that Hollywood shouldn't criticize Trump since they also caused a mess with the awards.
They were seriously comparing a mixup with the envelopes to all the shit Trump has been pulling off.
Dreams-Visions
Member
1.) Each PWC rep is on a different side of the stage.
2.) Emma had her card after she won and mentioned as much in the post event interviews.
The only conclusion is that both sets of cards are actively used. Perhaps they are supposed to alternate. I didn't read anything about that part. But both sets are used and the envelope Warren was given clearly had (paraphrasing) Best Actress on it in gold text. The zoomed in shots make that indisputable. He didn't check the front, but he wasn't supposed to need to. That was PWCs job. It was their entire purpose on this night. They fucked up in the grandest possible fashion.
Honestly, I think the rep that handed the card was backstage taking pictures with celebs and lost focus needed to finish doing their jobs. Sometimes the easy jobs are the ones more likely to get fucked up.
Again, there are 2 complete sets of cards. Pls read my post.
FortuneFaded
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David Oyelowo
Discotheque
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dat feeling when Moonlight cashes in the money in the bank briefcase.
Zoe
Member
I know that. The person I responded to was thinking they reused her card.
Jack Scofield
Member
People are jumping all over you for this, but I completely agree with you. It's like watching the modern-day bourgeoisie pat themselves on the back while us proles eat it all up.
Vincent Alexander
Member
Kind of agree too. I understand the point of these awards shows, but they never come off well. Not sure how to fix though. Well, I guess fix isn't right word. Many love these things. Probably just me being weird.
Nicely done.
It was funny to see it unfold the way it did though. You can clearly see Faye getting flustered at Warren and then she just reads out the title straight away. You're right though, some would have probably made the same mistake, but I'm sure most would say "Hey, I've got the wrong envelope here."
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
No way people will really say this right?
Matt Damon has a envelope on stage right.
Martha Ruiz has a envelope on stage left.
It's the last award of the night. The biggest award of the night. The process is simple. The presenter comes from stage right - receiving the winning envelope from Matt/Martha. They read the envelope, meet the winners and proceed to stage left, handing the envelope to Martha/Matt. Again, it's a simple process. One that has functioned perfectly for 88 years, gentlemen.
But something went wrong tonight, didn't it? The envelope for Best Actress found its way to stage right somehow despite seemingly being checked on stage left.
Matt or Martha hand Warren the envelope as he goes on stage and it's the wrong letter. A scarlet letter for The Academy. A black mark. It would be outrageous if it weren't so insidious.
An unlikely suspect emerges. Leonardo Dicaprio was the last non-Academy representative holding that envelope that night. Perhaps jilted by his decades of snubs, Leo decided to seek satisfaction from his oppressors. He fiendishly swapped out the winning card as he slinked his way backstage.
Poor Warren Beatty never stood a chance.
Fortunately hard evidence proves Leo's innocence, but without concrete leads on any other culprit's -- we are left with the final mystery of guilt.
Of course, what of guilt? By the legal definition, it signifies liability but in emotional terms it is a signal of responsibility. To do the right thing, to have a clear conscience...
But what if the man responsible had no conscience. What if there was a man so insane, so deranged, so addicted to chaos and mayhem that -- when the opportunity presented itself -- he would sabotage his own film?
Watch him again: he smiles then moves back, and to the left. Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left.
Does this not look like a man capable of such an abhorrent act? Look beyond the facts, and feel with your gut. Smiling as his friends give their speeches, smiling as panicked producers rush on stage, smiling as the magical moment is stripped from them.5
What kind of man could do this? Yes, what kind of monster indeed.
Maximus.
Member
Reading that is just such an over reaction. The brand of a very big and reputable firm is not going to be tarnished over something like this. It was a simple mistake and was corrected almost immediately. Such over reaction for a simple mistake. Yes it sucks a lot for the people involved and especially for the moonlight team.
Guhnmystro
Member
haha, wow, this reads like you've never won an award for something you're proud of in your life. But by all means, keep lording those edges.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
It's you two being insecure that's the problem. Almost every company in America has awards. Some people call them Actor of the year, Artist of the year, Most Valuable Player (MVP) of a league, whereas other companies call it Employee of the Month or Employee of the Year.
When you see that plague on the wall at McDonalds do you also feel like it's "modern day bourgeoisie" patting themselves on the back?
Alex Jones is on GAF?!Matt Damon has a envelope on stage right.
Martha Ruiz has a envelope on stage left.
It's the last award of the night. The biggest award of the night. The process is simple. The presenter comes from stage right - receiving the winning envelope from Matt/Martha. They read the envelope, meet the winners and proceed to stage left, handing the envelope to Martha/Matt. Again, it's a simple process. One that has functioned perfectly for 88 years, gentlemen.
But something went wrong tonight, didn't it? The envelope for Best Actress found its way to stage right somehow despite seemingly being checked on stage left.
Matt or Martha hand Warren the envelope as he goes on stage and it's the wrong letter. A scarlet letter for The Academy. A black mark. It would be outrageous if it weren't so insidious.
An unlikely suspect emerges. Leonardo Dicaprio was the last non-Academy representative holding that envelope that night. Perhaps jilted by his decades of snubs, Leo decided to seek satisfaction from his oppressors. He fiendishly swapped out the winning card as he slinked his way backstage.
Poor Warren Beatty never stood a chance.
Fortunately hard evidence proves Leo's innocence, but without concrete leads on any other culprit's -- we are left with the final mystery of guilt.
Of course, what of guilt? By the legal definition, it signifies liability but in emotional terms it is a signal of responsibility. To do the right thing, to have a clear conscience...
But what if the man responsible had no conscience. What if there was a man so insane, so deranged, so addicted to chaos and mayhem that -- when the opportunity presented itself -- he would sabotage his own film?
Watch him again: he smiles then moves back, and to the left. Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left.
Does this not look like a man capable of such an abhorrent act? Look beyond the facts, and feel with your gut. Smiling as his friends give their speeches, smiling as panicked producers rush on stage, smiling as the magical moment is stripped from them.5
What kind of man could do this? Yes, what kind of monster indeed.
:lol
LucidMomentum
Member
The whole snafu is odd, but the schadenfreude is amazing.
Some of those reaction photos made me laugh.
Some of those reaction photos made me laugh.
Dreams-Visions
Member
This.
Being honored and appreciated for your work and highlighted by your peers is not unique to the Oscars and permeates society. These posters shouldn't need to be told that.
JHoNNy1OoO
Member
Yeah I don't get it. All the fail safes were there but everyone along the chain fucked up. Warren with the open envelope in his hand knew something was wrong and even looked inside thinking he got the wrong card. No one wanted to say anything at this point and just went with it.
I think the only thing that could have been changed to make it more foolproof is just not have duplicate envelopes on that stage at the same time. Sure have them in the building but not at your immediate disposal.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Kids literally win trophies at 10 for winning tournaments. Nobody feels bad about this. This is all normal. Crazy how insecure some people can be.
GitarooMan
Member
At least whoever hosts next year has some easy monologue material.
Insane Metal
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Holy shit this is heart breaking. Poor dudes. How does something like this even happen? WTF man.
Meryl Streep has the best reaction
The Rock and Matt Damon have amazing ones
sixteen-bit
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the crowbcat video woulda been worth it tho
Darth Pinche
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I swear when Kimmel first came on screen after the commercial break and before Best Picture, you can see someone frantically running across the back of the stage. maybe they knew there was a problem but could not get to the presenters in time?
unpopularblargh
Member
Meryl Streep has the best reaction
David Oyelowo IMO has the best WTF face.
Meryl Streep has the best reaction
The guy between the Stings is pretty good too.
Meryl Streep has the best reaction
When are men going to be allowed to wear something that isn't a plain looking suit? Inverted colors help but that's not enough.
Vincent Alexander
Member
Only if McDonalds employee was making millions AND broadcasting the award to millions via TV.
rokkerkory
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It's rigged guys... people cannot 'count' anymore I swear.
Ignatz Mouse
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I've already read plenty of comments on Youtube claiming that Moonlight winning is just because of #OscarsSoWhite last year.
Amazing.
Trojita
Rapid Response Threadmaker
OMG @ the Rock on the right. Didn't even see him there.
Matt Damon's reaction is definitely a classic.
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