Trickster
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I just kinda disagree. There's some "anti" swift posts in here sure, but none of them that I can see are saying that these sales represent anything inherently bad for the swift.
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Switch sold 45k units at launch in Spain
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I just kinda disagree. There's some "anti" swift posts in here sure, but none of them that I can see are saying that these sales represent anything inherently bad for the swift.
Japan is a place that exists. Look up Splatoon sales in Japan.
GregLombardi
Member
Zelda is the very definition of a system seller IMO, and I never thought I would say that again. But, as with Splatoon, the definition may vary by region.
lwilliams3
Member
You are really downplaying Mario Kart. If we look at the handheld market (which is justified due to the system's hybrid nature) a portable and upgraded MK8 compared to MK7 is a ridiculous step up.
Splatoon is likely underestimated too. I'm curious on how well the game will perform now that it is going beyond the Wii U.
As a reference, since there are people saying that "Wii U sold well at launch too, so it's better to wait and see"...while the latter is certainly a good advice, and we'll have to see how the platform performs in the next few months outside of launch, the former is not true, at least in Europe.
Not only we have datas right in the OP showing how Switch had a debut 5x Wii U's in Spain, but there are also these numbers back from 2012
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=510874
Out of 900,000 Wii U shipped in "Others", only 430,000 were sold between the European launch (November 30th, 2012) and the end of 2012. Remember: Zelda alone is over 325,000 copies sold in the first weekend at least (since 325,000 is the amount of Wiis sold in Europe in its first weekend).
Another reference - in its first weekend, 3DS sold around 303,000 in Europe.
http://www.vg247.com/2011/04/01/nintendo-3ds-uk-launch-sales-beat-wii-and-ds/
As Nintendo reports, its first shipment in "Others" (launch in Europe on March 25th, 2011) was of 1,230,000 units.
Not only we have datas right in the OP showing how Switch had a debut 5x Wii U's in Spain, but there are also these numbers back from 2012
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=510874
Out of 900,000 Wii U shipped in "Others", only 430,000 were sold between the European launch (November 30th, 2012) and the end of 2012. Remember: Zelda alone is over 325,000 copies sold in the first weekend at least (since 325,000 is the amount of Wiis sold in Europe in its first weekend).
Another reference - in its first weekend, 3DS sold around 303,000 in Europe.
http://www.vg247.com/2011/04/01/nintendo-3ds-uk-launch-sales-beat-wii-and-ds/
As Nintendo reports, its first shipment in "Others" (launch in Europe on March 25th, 2011) was of 1,230,000 units.
There is a small thing about Switch on Spain. Right now, ordering a switch from Amazon Spain is the cheapest (legal) way to get a Switch on Latam. Difference between buying it locally and Spain can range between 50 to 80 USD.
And I'm just talking without mentioning grey market.
Nintendo and their distributors shouldn't be so harsh on pricing with Latam, but it's not like Xbox and PS are good, it's just that Nintendo is always the most expensive one. (It's cheaper to get a PS4 Pro than a Switch)
And I'm just talking without mentioning grey market.
Nintendo and their distributors shouldn't be so harsh on pricing with Latam, but it's not like Xbox and PS are good, it's just that Nintendo is always the most expensive one. (It's cheaper to get a PS4 Pro than a Switch)
The Mario Kart series sells far too well for it to not also be selling systems to people in solid numbers.
Wii U sales increased on the back of Splatoon in JPN, that's the definition of a system seller.
Splatoon sold almost 1.5 million copies in Japan on an installbase of 3.3 million.
And Mario Kart, which also has about 50% attach rate, sold 36.000.000 copies in Wii. The only non-nintendo games that sold more are apparently Tetris, Minecraft and GTA V
Primethius
Banned
That's a really impressive launch, even more so given that stock is fairly limited.
Spain is not the only country where PSP had an insane debut. In UK, it's still the second best opening for a console of all time, with 185,000 units sold
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/sonys-psp-smashes-uk-records-with-185k-sales-at-launch
Mario Kart absolutely is a system seller. More so than Zelda by a long shot.
IlGialloMondadori
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I bought a Switch largely for Mario Kart, being relatively uninterested in Zelda.
Spain always have been a tough market for Nintendo. During the Nintendo vs SEGA era, SEGA was more popular, and Sony followed and improved the trend whit the arrival of the PlayStation.
About the PSP numbers, Sony marketing have been really strong and effective here since the PS2 -with the exception of the Vita-. Sony have a good team here.
People forget the hype for the PSP. It was coming hot off the heels of the PS2. It waseant to kill Nintendo.
Dash Kappei
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It's impossible to find here in Tenerife.
Went to Mediamarkt in Santa Cruz and every goddamn chain in Tenerife Sur and they always tell me the shipments sold out after 30 minutes since opening time.
Some places (Worthen, Corte Ingles) restocked this morning and I still couldn't get one by walking in at 9am.
I mean, not that Tenerife is a big market or anything, lol... I still haven't seen a PSVR out in the wild since launch week.
Went to Mediamarkt in Santa Cruz and every goddamn chain in Tenerife Sur and they always tell me the shipments sold out after 30 minutes since opening time.
Some places (Worthen, Corte Ingles) restocked this morning and I still couldn't get one by walking in at 9am.
I mean, not that Tenerife is a big market or anything, lol... I still haven't seen a PSVR out in the wild since launch week.
tbf it's easily available in every mayor retailer except amazon.es, which is not that big here.
I don't think Arms will be the same big success Splatoon was, but it'll do fine and sell a decent amount, enough to warrant a sequel down the line.
Yeah, I'm not going to buy it again, but if they announce new DLC tracks for switch I'll probably double dip
Yup, plus MonHun in Japan forming the holy trinity.
It really doesn't, yeah. GTAV has been a consistent top seller for the PS4 and Xbox One and for the former of those two only three out of its many launch games were exclusively 8th-gen. The idea that MK8D's sales will be hurt by Wii U's sales is like saying people will go and buy Wii Us for Zelda instead of Switches, it's frankly ridiculous.
I know this thread is about Spain
but dear lord, if the Switch gets Splatoon 2, Monster Hunter, and Pokemon this year it's going to skyrocket in Japan. are there any rumors of Monster Hunter XX coming to Switch?
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If my memory doesn't fail, there was piracy from launch week in Europe. That probably helped.
Also, in the smartphone era it's not so impressive, but that big screen in a handheld device at that time was amazing. I think i bought it when it was launched and I received a free Spiderman UMD video as a promotion.
Dash Kappei
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I distinctly remember it myself too, I'm sure if you go to, off the top of my mind, the Vita price announcement thread, plenty of people were posting that the 3DS was done for etc.
Prisoner KSC2-303
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Nice snark. Is this thread not about European sales then?
Fair point, but then, if we're comparing handhelds then the price point of the Switch surely comes into play too, doesn't it?
I'm not denying MK has a great attach rate, I'm just not convinced that it'll keep the momentum of hardware sales at the price point between Zelda and a 3D Mario, which shift systems no matter what.
Just an opinion, no need for feathers to be ruffled chaps.
I'm quite taken aback by how well the Switch's debut seems to be, was expecting 50 to 60 million sales lifetime but it's entirely possible if Nintendo can carry the momentuam that it can hit past 80 to 90 million. The console market severely needs some expansion one way or another and it'd be great to see the "runner up" enjoy healthy sales to offset the overall decline in the console market.
I think by any objective measure the Mario Kart series is more of a system seller than 3D Mario games and Zelda games so I'm not sure what you're basing your opinion on tbh
RichiRamjag
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Unfortunately not.
Gotta Stay Fresh.
Yup, I went back and read the Vita price thread and GAF was going mental for it.
Prisoner KSC2-303
Member
Well then maybe I'm wrong, maybe if the system had launched with MK8 instead of Zelda it would've sold even more. I doubt it, but it's just an opinion.
We're aware that it's your opinion. Do you think repeating that prevents disagreements?
Prisoner KSC2-303
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It really seemed so obvious back then, though. The Vita was such a sleek design with powerful hardware and the original 3DS looked cheap, overpriced and with a weird gimmick. Purely comparing the two on hardware and price alone made the Vita seem like the obvious winner.
But the Sega Game Gear and Atari Lynx were also massively superior to the Game Boy, and that didn't help them one bit.
PSP vs DS was very similar. Remember that picture with the 3 PSP running Ridge Racer and the single sad original DS saying "anybody wanna play Pictochat?"
While I don't think MK8 deluxe might have shifted more units compared to Zelda, and zelda creates a lot more enthousiasm, I wouldn't say it's impossible the LTD of MK8 Deluxe will be higher than the LTD of Zelda BoTW in the long run.
Mario Kart 7 on 3DS was released in 2011 and still charted from time to time 'till last year.
I personally expect Mario Kart 8 to be the pack-in game for the holidays, with more DLC announced for early 2018 so they can get some extra $$ out of those who purchase the bundle.
Im starting to.
Elfotografoalocado
Banned
Well, Monster Hunter is also successful here in Spain. We all played Tri back in the day. With Splatoon 2 and Mario Kart and a decent Fifa the console will be a hit.
Crazy comment.. Mario Kart is always in the top 3 sales on all nintendo consoles.. and then splatoon 2 in summer.. i know a lot of people who are waiting to buy switch until splatoon 2 hits the shelves..
System seller is a game that sells systems.. mario kart 8 and splatoon 2 is firmly in that category..
So 4 system sellers in the first year, and we are yet to see what Pokemom has in store for the switch.. another huge system seller if they deliver the goods..
I've seen several people say they would buy the switch just for portable skyrim. So that is another.. and Fifa always sells some systems too, or at least helps the lineup look stronger in the eyes of sports fanatics..
And who is to say what E3 will bring..
But yah.. switch has no system sellers from launch until Mario :-O
Prisoner KSC2-303
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Fair points, I definitely think it'll sell more in the long term, as a series it's a consistent seller over a long period. Look at GTA V on PS4 / XB1 for a similar example, some games everyone just picks up when they buy a console, no matter what other games they may have bought it for.
Nice.
hell I remember Mario Kart Wii sales were still going strong as late as 2013
That's a particular case here as this MK WAS already bought by a big part of its base players ...
Now i indeed think MK is the one Nintendo game that goes beyond their fanbase. But i fear the price of the Switch makes it impossible to create a "buy the MK machine to play with friends" effect, for now.