-Mutsukki-
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No, this was weeks ago. They came out with this statement right after the callouts in the thread started, which makes me think they wouldn't really do anything if there wasn't any outrage.
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Playtonic removes JonTron from Yooka-Laylee.
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No, this was weeks ago. They came out with this statement right after the callouts in the thread started, which makes me think they wouldn't really do anything if there wasn't any outrage.
The Lamonster
Member
Great statement from Playtonic.
Good on them.
Good on them.
People of other races shouldn't have to tolerate a racist in their workplace
What the fuck does this even mean?
*says dumb shit defending racism*
"Guys it's ok, I worked with someone wearing a BLM shirt one time"
Forearm Star
Member
Had no interest in this game, but now I do.
YEAH BAYBEEEEE
Not at all. I was just asked for my age, which was a retorical way to discredit my opinion.
RichiRamjag
Member
I just want to smack people who say that shit. It's so ignorant. Like people really think freedom of speech means saying stupid shit without consequence. Freedom of speech then goes out of the window when people exercise their freedom to criticize the stupid shit someone said.
EatinOlives
Member
"Disgusting that a developer made the personal decision to remove a white supremacist from their game because they weren't comfortable with it!"
Put down the free speech pom poms and maybe think about the freedom of choice for the devs to put whoever the fuck they want in their game. They made the decision to have him in the first place, now they magically don't have the right to take him out? Fuck outta here.
pokeystaples
Banned
I was really on the fence about this game due to some monetary constraints. We have a big trip in April so I won't be able to play for a while and it's kind of a spendy trip. Just put my preorder in. We can take the tram instead of an uber a couple times a make up for it.
CaviarMeths
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That's not what this is about. It's about taking a stance and saying "This is unacceptable." Playtonic and fans both have a moral obligation to oppose JT's horrible views.
GabeTheGrouch76
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Fixed for accuracy.
afternoon delight
Member
For many reasons, one of which is we don't 'work alongside' people who advocate for the death and destruction of a people based on their race.
In one of many gardens a shade of Borges himself is weeping for the continued ineptitude of us all.
themagicalkitsune
Member
Holy shit, they must be hardcore communinsts.
Go and check Che Guevara's quotes about racism. Then we can continue talking.
ebullientprism
Member
"Companies shouldnt be able to fire people who think people of different races are sub humans."
Some guy on GAF.
Some guy on GAF.
FinaruDensetsu
Member
I agree with you that it's disgusting.
To protest you should go into both your jobs and shout white supremacist shit right in the middle of the office. If they should fire you for it you'll know they too were disgusting and you probably didn't want to work for disgusting companies anyway.
Well, what we're saying is you should know better.
The idea that spouting horrible racist politics shouldn't have an effect on your work life is utterly absurd.
It is a variant on "just asking questions". Always check the profile people
RichiRamjag
Member
Its a moot point. People did have a problem and they responded. Like you're really low key defending some bullshit that's not worth defending.
Messofanego
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If your views are public enough and you're associated with a company, yeah that world doesn't exist where you're only assessed on your performance when it puts the company's image in a negative light that they don't need the drama to defend or even want to.
Are you suggesting that they should have removed Jon in consequence for his white supremacist diatribe...before it happened? If anything, this means the decision wasn't final until after his statement clarifying things, and since it was such a laughable double-down, they were firm in the decision.
Phrozenflame500
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Even ignoring how terrible most of Jontron's views are, if you're any sort of public figure you can't seriously expect to have the ability to shit on a portion of you or your sponsors consumer base without any sort of repercussion.
? I never said Playtonic does not have the right to fire that guy. All the opposite.
Doctor_Thomas
Member
Or, maybe, they had planned to something but had to be delicate in how they approached it legally?
Don't care if he's a nazi.........
Please think on the absurdity of what you're saying.
Death Penalty
Member
I certainly agree that if Jon's rights were being violated because he said something, even something so despicable, there would be a problem. It's just that it isn't the case here.
And the people that suffer due to racist rhetoric that people like JonTron spue. Is that less disgusting?
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Oh, I forgot this game comes to Switch? Perfect. Already have it on Steam but a "to go" version will be just perfect.
That I don't know. He might just have a lot of fans on GAF? No idea. Watched some of his videos, seems like a fun guy but I can't stand the voice.
That I don't know. He might just have a lot of fans on GAF? No idea. Watched some of his videos, seems like a fun guy but I can't stand the voice.
How the hell does someone go 32 years without realizing that people usually get fired for publicly saying WHITE SUPREMACIST talking points?
A Link to the Past
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So to clarify, you think that wearing a shirt depicting a bad person is the same as being a bad person?
jediyoshi
Member
It's in the OP. An update.
It states how: with a patch.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Of course you are sympathising with him. You feel bad/it is umfair he is being pumished for what he did. How is that not sympathy?
He did voice work. He got paid. They decided not to use it. Where is the problem?
Forgetting that, why should we separate the person from the work? Why should shit human beings not be discouraged from being shit? A lot of people could have done the voice work he was given partly because of his platform. Now his platform suddenly doesn't matter?
AtomskEater
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Okay, assuming you held beliefs that blacks, women, gays, immigrants whatever were inferior, ruining the country, etc, it CAN cause a problem with your performance at work. You may be less cooperative with coworkers from groups you look down on, and if you're in a position like HR, management and so on you might give less positive performance reviews, pass over candidates for jobs based on their race. Many workplaces would do well to take public racist outbursts into account not just for PR reasons, but because people who hold these views can have them affect their judgement and performance at work, whether they intend it or not.
Pretty much. Genuinely thought this would've totally blown over by now.
The fact that you put nazis and communists in the same bag says a lot about your ignorance.
Hmm i think i kind of understand where our disagreement comes from. Im of the opinion that playtonic doesnt actually care but they made this decision for financial reasons. This is why im questioning those who are letting johns inclusion detract from their enjoyment of the game. Imo Its unfair to the guys at playtonic.
It seems that you and many others are of the opinion that they are infact actively trying to promote some sort of ethical integrity outside of their games.
I hold my particular beliefs based on playtonics history. I've always known them not to let crude or fucked up shit bother them. Their games have never been known to be ethical goldmines. This is why i believe they are acting out of fear for being financially punished for something that isnt their responsibility.
TetraGenesis
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Raise of hands:
If you were the developer for a video game and one of your minor voice actors spoke very publically about their dangerously racist and xenophobic beliefs, would it take a public intimidation campaign for you to remove their work from the game and dissociate yourself from said racist?
Or would you do it even without provocation because, you know, fuck racists and hate-mongers?
If you were the developer for a video game and one of your minor voice actors spoke very publically about their dangerously racist and xenophobic beliefs, would it take a public intimidation campaign for you to remove their work from the game and dissociate yourself from said racist?
Or would you do it even without provocation because, you know, fuck racists and hate-mongers?
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
The world would be a much better place yea if racism exempted you from getting a job. Wtf am I reading?
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