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So how bad is the Switch stock situation?

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Glen Tennis

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The fever got into me and I decided to go and buy a Switch today. Verkkokauppa had plenty of them in stock. Zelda was trickier, it seems that it's basically sold out everywhere but after snooping around a bit I was able to find a store that had a few copies of it. Joycons seem to work fine and the system seems super nice so I'm happy.
 

spekkeh

Banned
Not to mention, what's the attach rate like for Twitchy McImpulse vs. Bob O'Dedicated? That guy who just snatched it up because of scarcity hype probably isn't going to buy 12-15 games for it over its lifespan. Why restrict everyone else for his sake?

Not even that, but the real money to be made is from software. Games Nintendo publishes, and licenses for third parties. By the time someone gets a Switch two months from now, they'll get Mario Kart. They might not bother with Zelda, or Blaster Master, or King of Fighters, Bomberman, Shovel Knight, Snake Pass, etc. Two months of sales gone.

If four million people want your platform, you give it to them as fast as possible. Nintendo might be striving to deliver exactly to demand and not much over it, but they certainly aren't going to deliver two million and then sit there gloating "two million consoles times two months of sales down the drain, were so popular and devious, lulllzzzz".
 
Euro-GAF, Amazon.es is getting stock every few days it seems... I ordered a Neon system yesterday while it still was out of stock and it'll likely be shipped tomorrow. Neon is out of stock again but they do have the grey one in stock.
 

Interfectum

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I know people who bought a Switch because they found one and it was rare...people who didn't even want one before it released.

If the Switch wasn't rare, they wouldn't have given it a second glance.

You don't need math to show that under-shipping a product works, if it's the right kind of product. Whether it generates a significant amount of money is much harder to answer, but there can be no doubt it generates some.

Nintendo can't win either way.

Switch out of stock: lul under-shipping creating artificial demand

Switch in-stock: wow, didn't expect to see it in stores like this. seems like another wii u.
 

koss424

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I know people who bought a Switch because they found one and it was rare...people who didn't even want one before it released.

If the Switch wasn't rare, they wouldn't have given it a second glance.

You don't need math to show that under-shipping a product works, if it's the right kind of product. Whether it generates a significant amount of money is much harder to answer, but there can be no doubt it generates some.

They shipped the exact same amount Sony did for the PS4 launch. This sounds more like what average capacity looks like for a console launch than artificial scarcity.
 

BeforeU

Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
Nintendo can't win either way.

Switch out of stock: lul under-shipping creating artificial demand

Switch in-stock: wow, didn't expect to see it in stores like this. seems like another wii u.

Its true though, take a look at Sony. I wouldn't say they undershipped, the demand was too high, sold through over a million on first day and they were kept shipping more and within 2 weeks everything was under control. Feel like Nintendo not only undershipped during launch but they still not shipping many.

We need actual sold through numbers to know exactly. Because i cant imagine they were this off in their prediction.
 

Kar L

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Oh get the hell out of here with this "it's not hard if you put a little effort into it" shit.

I've called every GameStop in the area, tried every Best Buy, and every target. There's nothing here. I've been doing this for two and a half weeks now. In the suburbs I tried Walmart (there's pretty much no Walmarts in Chicago)--nothing.

So you either live in the middle of nowhere or just got lucky and live an an area where they got a restock because if people don't have a Switch it's not for lack of trying.

Edit: a junior. Of course
Maybe you should actually read the numerous posts here that have given tips every week on how to find one more successfully. Calling random stores in the middle of the day accomplishes nothing.

Yeah, a junior who has made several more informative posts in this thread than you have. I live in the middle of a metropolis known as Minneapolis btw.
 

Kar L

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Brickseek Walmart: http://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/

Nintendo Switch Grey: 55449983
Nintendo Switch Neon: 55449981

Current quantities are off. Some are pre-orders, some are on layaway, sometimes they are just missing, stolen, or being held.

But you can go and buy one at the store if you see any increase in quanities during hourly refreshes of this page.
 
Maybe you should actually read the numerous posts here that have given tips every week on how to find one more successfully. Calling random stores in the middle of the day accomplishes nothing.

Yeah, a junior who has made several more informative posts in this thread than you have. I live in the middle of a metropolis known as Minneapolis btw.

I think the main mistake you are making right now is that these types of situations are always a YMMV scenario.
 
So Nintendo not meeting demand in March is proof of an artificial scarcity tactic, but if they increase the supply moving forward (which they in fact announced weeks ago) to meet this demand next month, it's also proof of a deliberate under-shipping scheme. Cool.

No. Follow the discussion. I quoted Steve's response to the other guy explaining why someone would feel like the scarcity is artificial. Regardless to what you believe is going on.. people are questioning it's logistics cause there is no f'n units! 5 here.. 3 there.. a few on amazon.

People want it and despite their claim for doubling units, we haven't even seen a quarter of what they promised in the first place! And I even said they basically get a pass for playing it safe because of the wiiu. While I do NOT think they are doing on purpose, per se.. they definitely under shipped, hard.

Blame them for what? Not overproducing units?
What? How do you get from under production to over!?!
 
No. Follow the discussion. I quoted Steve's response to the other guy explaining why someone would feel like the scarcity is artificial. Regardless to what you believe is going on.. people are questioning it's logistics cause there is no f'n units! 5 here.. 3 there.. a few on amazon.

People want it and despite their claim for doubling units, we haven't even seen a quarter of what they promised in the first place! And I even said they basically get a pass for playing it safe because of the wiiu. While I do NOT think they are doing on purpose, per se.. they definitely under shipped, hard.

What? How do you get from under production to over!?!

My position in general is that I don't think it's unfair to suggest that Nintendo doesn't react quickly enough at times to heavy demand, but also I generally put no stock into theories that they deliberately undership constantly in an attempt to trick people into perceiving their products to be more in-demand than they actually are.
 

TS-08

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No. Follow the discussion. I quoted Steve's response to the other guy explaining why someone would feel like the scarcity is artificial. Regardless to what you believe is going on.. people are questioning it's logistics cause there is no f'n units! 5 here.. 3 there.. a few on amazon.

People want it and despite their claim for doubling units, we haven't even seen a quarter of what they promised in the first place! And I even said they basically get a pass for playing it safe because of the wiiu. While I do NOT think they are doing on purpose, per se.. they definitely under shipped, hard.

I'm following the discussion just fine. You implied that Nintendo ramping up shipments prior to MK8D's launch would be evidence that the Switch stock situation was deliberate on Nintendo's part. That's what I responded to.
 

PSFan

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That's a very simplistic and entitled line of thinking when you know you're talking about a brand new in-demand item.

There have been several people in this thread who were like "yeah I'm going to four stores today and if I don't find one then screw it". Well okay buddy, that's not how any of this works. Continue disappointing only yourself instead of doing the small things in order to succeed. Such as: reading previous posts on here, tracking inventory, getting tips from others.

Everyone has an off day from work where they can employ these strategies. They can find someone else to go to the store for them too. It's clear that some people just prefer to go kicking and screaming though.

Wanting things to be the way they are supposed to be is entitled now? Buying something from a store should not involve any kind of "strategy".

The saddest part is, that before the Wii, it wasn't like this. It was always easy to walk into a store on launch day or even a day or two after, and pick up a new console. And even then Nintendo would announce limited launch quantities but it was never really a big factor. At least not where I was living.
 

Rival

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Wanting things to be the way they are supposed to be is entitled now? Buying something from a store should not involve any kind of "strategy".

The saddest part is, that before the Wii, it wasn't like this. It was always easy to walk into a store on launch day or even a day or two after, and pick up a new console. And even then Nintendo would announce limited launch quantities but it was never really a big factor. At least not where I was living.

Hmmm I remember the 64 being very hard to find.
 

Cuburt

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True.. but to be fair, that is the situation right now and they are losing money. I am one of the consumers you described in your top paragraph. I want to play Zelda, bad! But I refuse to play it on Wii U, and the only thing I want to play more than Zelda is Persona 5. P5 comes out next week.. after I get that, I'm gonna wait on the switch.

I know the PS4 had shortages when it came out, but it didn't seem this bad. The Switch situation is borderline ridiculous. If we start seeing units by the time MK8:D comes out... can't help but to scream Ninty did it deliberately.

Only because gaming is all they do or have to worry about. I still love em tho
So because if they happen to have production start catching up with demand in time for a big release it was a conspiracy but if it doesn't then what? They were just building up demand for Splatoon 2? Or Mario Odyssey for the holidays?

Gamestop says they expect shortages through the year and it's not just Nintendo that loses out from this alleged manufactured scarcity. Retailers lose out on opportunities to sell accessories and games, accessory makers are missing out on sales, and third parties are missing out on game sales. No one actually really wins besides scalpers.

Wanting things to be the way they are supposed to be is entitled now? Buying something from a store should not involve any kind of "strategy".

The saddest part is, that before the Wii, it wasn't like this. It was always easy to walk into a store on launch day or even a day or two after, and pick up a new console. And even then Nintendo would announce limited launch quantities but it was never really a big factor. At least not where I was living.
You must not have gotten a 3DS at launch.

Even the Wii U had less problems for people to find one than the Wii during those first couple months during the holiday and was pretty easy for people to get by the New Year when there were no games to even potentially drive some sort of artificial demand, even if there were such a thing.
 

Neoweee

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Wanting things to be the way they are supposed to be is entitled now? Buying something from a store should not involve any kind of "strategy".

The saddest part is, that before the Wii, it wasn't like this. It was always easy to walk into a store on launch day or even a day or two after, and pick up a new console. And even then Nintendo would announce limited launch quantities but it was never really a big factor. At least not where I was living.


Hmmm I remember the 64 being very hard to find.

PS2 and N64 were both the "hot" items their respective holiday seasons. 360 also was kind of hard for its holiday season.
 
I'm following the discussion just fine. You implied that Nintendo ramping up shipments prior to MK8D's launch would be evidence that the Switch stock situation was deliberate on Nintendo's part. That's what I responded to.

Yes, if that happens you can't blame someone for thinking like that. That's what I meant... sorry if I said it a way you didn't understand. 🤗

No I don't have proof that they are trying to build hype, or even looking for it... but you don't have proof that they are not. I am in the same situation as many, many other people looking for a unit, so I feel their pain.

You have a game out there people are claiming to be the best ever of a legendary franchise, and all you can do is watch videos of it. Shits irritating so people conjure up ways to deal with it. That's how I feel
 

TS-08

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Yes, if that happens you can't blame someone for thinking like that. That's what I meant... sorry if I said it a way you didn't understand. 🤗

No I don't have proof that they are trying to build hype, or even looking for it... but you don't have proof that they are not. I am in the same situation as many, many other people looking for a unit, so I feel their pain.

You have a game out there people are claiming to be the best ever of a legendary franchise, and all you can do is watch videos of it. Shits irritating so people conjure up ways to deal with it. That's how I feel

"But you don't have proof that they are not."

That's my cue to exit this conversation.
 
PS2 and N64 were both the "hot" items their respective holiday seasons. 360 also was kind of hard for its holiday season.
The 360 was a pain in the ass to find up until spring 2006.

It's more common for consoles to be scarce after launch than not, at least ever since system launch dates were promoted and pre-orders were a thing (roughly since N64).
 

Joei

Member
Brickseek Walmart: http://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker/

Nintendo Switch Grey: 55449983
Nintendo Switch Neon: 55449981

Current quantities are off. Some are pre-orders, some are on layaway, sometimes they are just missing, stolen, or being held.

But you can go and buy one at the store if you see any increase in quanities during hourly refreshes of this page.

That's how I got mine a few weeks ago. I checked my local Walmarts daily on Brickseek and one morning a Walmart went from 3 Neon's to 4. I called them up and they said they had one sitting in the case. It ended up being a ship-to-store that the person decided on not getting.
 

PSFan

Member
Hmmm I remember the 64 being very hard to find.

Had no trouble walking into Electronics Boutique on launch day and buying a N64. They were out of Mario so I had to go upstairs to Software, Etc and grab a copy there.

You must not have gotten a 3DS at launch.

Even the Wii U had less problems for people to find one than the Wii during those first couple months during the holiday and was pretty easy for people to get by the New Year when there were no games to even potentially drive some sort of artificial demand, even if there were such a thing.

I got a 3DS at launch, at Target. I was very surprised to get there and find nobody waiting whatsoever.

I remember Wii launch day being very scary looking. I was driving around at like 4:30-5:00am and every store like Best Buy, TRU, Circuit City etc. had tons of people lined up. I had never seen anything like it on a launch day.
 

spekkeh

Banned
Its true though, take a look at Sony. I wouldn't say they undershipped, the demand was too high, sold through over a million on first day and they were kept shipping more and within 2 weeks everything was under control. Feel like Nintendo not only undershipped during launch but they still not shipping many.

We need actual sold through numbers to know exactly. Because i cant imagine they were this off in their prediction.
Took me three months to get a PS4, under control my ass.
 

xJavonta

Banned
Maybe you should actually read the numerous posts here that have given tips every week on how to find one more successfully. Calling random stores in the middle of the day accomplishes nothing.

Yeah, a junior who has made several more informative posts in this thread than you have. I live in the middle of a metropolis known as Minneapolis btw.

The fact of the matter is your post didn't contribute anything. You live in Minneapolis, not nearly as big a city or with as many people as Chicago. No wonder you were able to find one. Despite trying GameStop the day they said they were going to get more in stock (which was actually a day later than all the stores in my area got stock), checking every retail store 7 days a week calling at opening, and using online stock checkers for all major stores and calling the ones that have supposed stock, AND reaching out to all my friends that work in retail to use their internal stock checking tools to check their stores AND stores in my area, I've had no luck. It's not lack of effort as you so lazily assumed. It's location. So yeah, your post didn't contribute anything.
 

Falchion

Member
Checked all the Gamestops in Manhattan today and all they had were the online bundles that arrive early April. Some of the stores said they might be getting more this week but we'll see.
 
Had no trouble walking into Electronics Boutique on launch day and buying a N64. They were out of Mario so I had to go upstairs to Software, Etc and grab a copy there.

Your personal experience about launch day is irrelevant. Quoting Wikipedia because I went searching for this Spielberg mention which I specifically remember from 1996:

The Nintendo 64 was in heavy demand upon its release. David Cole, industry analyst, said "You have people fighting to get it from stores."[44] Time called the purchasing interest "that rare and glorious middle-class Cabbage Patch-doll frenzy". The magazine said celebrities Matthew Perry, Steven Spielberg's office, and some Chicago Bulls players called Nintendo to ask for special treatment to get their hands on the console.[55]
 

LordKano

Member
I'll start looking for a Switch in stores by the end of this week (Belgium). I already got a Zelda, used but almost untouched, for 45€, which will help me save a few bucks.

It's out of stock in most major retailers here. I'll look into small stores and the ones I know nobody interested in video games go to.

By the way, I was extremely lucky and got one. All major retailers were out of stock (and weren't going to have more stocks until two weeks !), but I found a small indie shop which had one (and the grey model in top of that, the one I wanted).
 

Rival

Gold Member
Had no trouble walking into Electronics Boutique on launch day and buying a N64. They were out of Mario so I had to go upstairs to Software, Etc and grab a copy there.

I'd make a bet that your experience was not like most people's for the 64. GameCube was pretty easy to find though as was the 3ds. I don't think I saw a Wii in the wild until a year after it launched. I'm certain the switch is going to readily available in a few weeks.
 
Checked all the Gamestops in Manhattan today and all they had were the online bundles that arrive early April. Some of the stores said they might be getting more this week but we'll see.

Can you only order these in-store? Do you remember when they were supposed to arrive? Might just go out and order one.
 

Falchion

Member
Can you only order these in-store? Do you remember when they were supposed to arrive? Might just go out and order one.

Not sure, they said 'special in store bundle offer', but that could've just been someone trying to make a sale. The one they mentioned was $450 and included a pro controller, Zelda, and maybe a case. They said guaranteed by April 5th.
 

Kill3r7

Member
Not sure, they said 'special in store bundle offer', but that could've just been someone trying to make a sale. The one they mentioned was $450 and included a pro controller, Zelda, and maybe a case. They said guaranteed by April 5th.

I think you have the wrong bundle there. The one I was told about is Zelda+Season Pass, Bomberman and Zelda guide plus Switch for $450. I believe this is the standard GS bundle. I would be much more open to consider the Pro Controller one.
 
Is there a downside in buying the PAL system, besides the higher price point?
My parents are going to Paris in May

Only downside i guess would be if there was any issues with the console it might be harder to fix. Suspect you can get one in your home country easily by May. We've had restocks every day the last week in the UK
 
Had no trouble walking into Electronics Boutique on launch day and buying a N64. They were out of Mario so I had to go upstairs to Software, Etc and grab a copy there.



I got a 3DS at launch, at Target. I was very surprised to get there and find nobody waiting whatsoever.

I remember Wii launch day being very scary looking. I was driving around at like 4:30-5:00am and every store like Best Buy, TRU, Circuit City etc. had tons of people lined up. I had never seen anything like it on a launch day.
N64 was extremely difficult to find from Sept-Dec of 1996. It took me more than a month calling different stores until I found one that had just gotten a shipment in. You got lucky.
 

Kalnos

Banned
I just walked into Walmart today and got one, they had 5 available. Me and another dude picked one up. They sounded sorta surprised that they had them.
 
Is it known if/when Gamestop will offer the Switch outside of their BS bundles?
They do sell it outside of a bundle, that's how I got mine last week. The store got some in, they sold them off, no bundles.
As far as an online restock, GameStop is a physical retailer first, they want people in their stores because that's how they sell you extra stuff. I'd guess the stock they receive will be allocated to physical stores first, at least until the in store demand dies down.
 

Hero

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No. Follow the discussion. I quoted Steve's response to the other guy explaining why someone would feel like the scarcity is artificial. Regardless to what you believe is going on.. people are questioning it's logistics cause there is no f'n units! 5 here.. 3 there.. a few on amazon.

People want it and despite their claim for doubling units, we haven't even seen a quarter of what they promised in the first place! And I even said they basically get a pass for playing it safe because of the wiiu. While I do NOT think they are doing on purpose, per se.. they definitely under shipped, hard.


What? How do you get from under production to over!?!

Because they produced Wii U to what they thought was going to be demand and wound up having to shut down factory production because of how terribly the system sold and they never recovered.

Do you think they can just flip a switch (*WINK WINK* *NUDGE NUDGE*) and magically make more units available worldwide?
 
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