LOL well Xbox One OG & Scorpio are MS branded Windows 10 devices why would that be a plot twist?
He means that it's not hardware related, but more of a feature of the OS.
LOL well Xbox One OG & Scorpio are MS branded Windows 10 devices why would that be a plot twist?
He means that it's not hardware related, but more of a feature of the OS.
He means that it's not hardware related, but more of a feature of the OS.
He means that it's not hardware related, but more of a feature of the OS.
I'd love to see what the NDA looks like to keep so many folks mum lol.
I don't care about any of all that. Will likely be something that isn't all that special at all. What i wonder is if the Scorpio will actually have a different look, UI wise. There was a report or two about that not so long ago but it was a little unclear.
I don't care about any of all that. Will likely be something that isn't all that special at all. What i wonder is if the Scorpio will actually have a different look, UI wise. There was a report or two about that not so long ago but it was a little unclear.
anything different on the CPU side either.
Which is??
Thanks for the info.Last I checked/heard, it was a higher clocked version of the same CPU in the X1, only with some other adjustments to the bus on the APU. But, that was from a briefing from back in January and the possibility that an 11th hour surprise (although I highly, HIGHLY doubt this would be the case), like Sony's, is entirely possible.
Last I checked/heard, it was a higher clocked version of the same CPU in the X1, only with some other adjustments to the bus on the APU. But, that was from a briefing from back in January and the possibility that an 11th hour surprise (although I highly, HIGHLY doubt this would be the case), like Sony's, is entirely possible.
Last I checked/heard, it was a higher clocked version of the same CPU in the X1, only with some other adjustments to the bus on the APU. But, that was from a briefing from back in January and the possibility that an 11th hour surprise (although I highly, HIGHLY doubt this would be the case), like Sony's, is entirely possible.
Thanks for the info.
That'd be a disappointment if the CPU is merely a higher clocked version with a few tweaks. No matter who is to blame (MS or AMD).
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SenjutsuSage sealed.
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SenjutsuSage sealed.
You have some serious high expectations about Scorpio turning the tides.
Thanks for the info.
That'd be a disappointment if the CPU is merely a higher clocked version with a few tweaks. No matter who is to blame (MS or AMD).
I know. Man the work devs have to do to get it working for every PC cpu out there is an amazing amount of work.The problem is, the further you change the CPU, the more work every dev who has ever released a game would have to do to ensure compatibility on the new hardware.
Part of the sales pitch of Scorpio is that it will run the entire X1 library natively and it will have their own hardware solutions to allow native improvements. A big change like that for the CPU would ensure we might get all sorts of wonky behavior from each & every game.
I know. Man the work devs have to do to get it working for every PC cpu out there is an amazing amount of work.
The way devs develop for PC is different for closed-box systems, like the Xbox One, PS4, etc. It's not a similar comparison. And yes, compatibility development on PC is a very arduous process - if it weren't, you wouldn't see so many PC games coming out in the ridiculous states they are in, regardless of the strength of the hardware that is running it.
I know. Man the work devs have to do to get it working for every PC cpu out there is an amazing amount of work.
Does anyone know how trade-ins work for stuff like this? I decided to get a cheap Xbox One on Amazon to play some exclusives until the Scorpio releases, but when I got it, the only thing it didn't come with is the original Xbox One box, and the warranty sticker in the back is cut. Will GameStop check that? I plan to go to eBay to find an Xbox One cardboard box if someone happens to be selling one.
I agree, not really buying the porting problem as a reason for no Zen. Considering that they were able to emulate x86 with PPC, and PPC with x86, x86 with x86 should be a cakewalk.
So, who is doing the port work? Remember, the vast majority of developers will not be issuing patches for the back catalog on the X1. The problem isn't that they can't be ported - it absolutely can be; its that they don't want to make devs have to work in order to ensure compatibility. The back catalog needs to natively run on the new hardware as they currently exists in the wild. Major changes to the CPU & its architecture will can throw that into all sorts of intended disarray, despite what JohnG's dismissive tone would allow you to believe.
Well, its always good for you to take time out from your lunch hr before going back to flipping burgers to discuss software issues.
Well, its always good for you to take time out from your lunch hr before going back to flipping burgers to discuss software issues.
No.Cute. Considering how much of a diehard Xbox fan you seem to be, i'm sure you've bought some of the very same burgers i've flipped in the past.
Cute. Considering how much of a diehard Xbox fan you seem to be, i'm sure you've bought some of the very same burgers i've flipped in the past.
The problem is, the further you change the CPU, the more work every dev who has ever released a game would have to do to ensure compatibility on the new hardware with the X1.
Part of the sales pitch of Scorpio is that it will run the entire X1 library natively and it will have their own hardware solutions to allow native improvements. A big change like that for the CPU would ensure we might get all sorts of wonky behavior from each & every game. The last thing the Scorpio needs is uncertain performance in the back library - they want the hardcore to buy this so you can get better performance from those older games, not worse.
On the other hand, there could very well be a solution to this that ensures native compatibility across machines. MS has tried this sort of cross-compatibility nativity solution in years past to very low success (I remember the early days of UWP - it never worked as intended), so if there has been some solid advancement on this front, the first signs of it will be in Scorpio.
Cute. Considering how much of a diehard Xbox fan you seem to be, i'm sure you've bought some of the very same burgers i've flipped in the past.
Where these burgers exclusive to one chain?
From my experience, they never require an original box for a trade in. All you'll need is the console and accessories that come in the box (console, power, HDMI, controller). Not sure about the warranty sticker being cut though. Depending on the Gamestop you go to they may or may not check that. My local store never really cares about physical condition unless the console itself looks like it went through a war.
That wouldn't be a problem for Scorpio because of how the Xbox One operating is designed. Don't forget it has a hypervisor that provides some degree of abstraction from the OS running the game and layer that actually has full control of the system's hardware. It's, for example, why the Xbox One S can automatically provide a better experience on every game compared to the OG box.
I dont care what they release, Im in.
Right, but thats because the CPU is still both the same architecture, chipset, AND at a slightly higher clock rate. In order to really put this to test, you'd need to see how it would run on CPUs of radically different chipset manufacturers. It's still enough of a variable that you may want to just avoid if you start getting games in the back catalog running in unintentional conditions.
Alrighty. I just want to get a full trade-in value. They charged me with a refurbish fee for my PS4 towards a Pro because I had a custom face plate and a bigger hard drive installed which makes sense, but I don't know how they deal with scratches. They're light scratches so car polish should remove those. I just don't want to show up without the box and get value marked off just because of that. My launch PS4 was the only thing I've ever personally traded in at GameStop and I had everything including the box, minus those few mods I did.
SameI dont care what they release, Im in.
Last I checked/heard, it was a higher clocked version of the same CPU in the X1, only with some other adjustments to the bus on the APU. But, that was from a briefing from back in January and the possibility that an 11th hour surprise (although I highly, HIGHLY doubt this would be the case), like Sony's, is entirely possible.
If this is true, why would they wait for a full year?
If this is true, why would they wait for a full year?
I don't know why, but its not like it isn't that much more powerful - its a pretty sizeable upgrade clearly. It's not like they said they were waiting for tech to become available. Heck, like other people have pointed out - Spencer said they finalized the APU back in December, so it's not like any of the tech developments that have occurred in this year are on the table for this thing regardless.
I don't know why, but its not like it isn't that much more powerful - its a pretty sizeable upgrade clearly. It's not like they said they were waiting for tech to become available. Heck, like other people have pointed out - Spencer said they finalized the APU back in December, so it's not like any of the tech developments that have occurred in this year are on the table for this thing regardless.
Right, but thats because the CPU is still both the same architecture, chipset, AND at a slightly higher clock rate. In order to really put this to test, you'd need to see how it would run on CPUs of radically different chipset manufacturers. It's still enough of a variable that you may want to just avoid if you start getting games in the back catalog running in unintentional conditions.