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Media Create Sales: Week 12, 2017 (Mar 20 - Mar 26)

L~A

Member
20./28. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Welcome amiibo <ETC> (Nintendo) {2016.11.23} (¥2.700) - 4.136 / 150.355

So, 150k ltd... damn. Pretty sure it's already outsold the Happy Price Selection version, especially since that version was released the same year.

It's amusing a game from 2012 is still making frequent comebacks in the Top 20 like that (though obviously, the general drop in sales for the JP market only accentuate the sales of leggy titles like that one).
 
Still way too early to tell anything from these numbers

While its not set in stone, I think its very reasonable to assume at this point that it is easily going to surpass the Wii U, possibly in its first full year (march to march) once MK8, Spaltoon 2, and Mario Odyssey are all on the system. Especially if a MHXX port is on the one, and a possible pokemon.
 

L~A

Member
Wii Sports not being bundled in Japan has always been a pretty intriguing tidbit. And the amusing thing is, Nintendo Land also wasn't bundled in Japan.
 
Still way too early to tell anything from these numbers
Actually it's pretty easy to tell. It's by far a better product and more appealing than the Wii U. It's easier to understand than the Wii U. And the first 9 months of Switch consists of multiple system seller games and blows the Wii U's first 9 months out of the water.

Also, the Wii U launched in the holidays, while this launched in March.
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
Peléo;232976738 said:
Japan only is something close to this:

Legend of Zelda 1.7m
Adventures of Link 1.6m
A Link to the Past 1.2m
Ocarina of Time 1.5m
Majora's Mask 730k
Wind Waker 900k
Twilight Princess 600k
Skyward Sword 400k

You're leaving out all the portable titles though. OOT 3D sold 600K, MM3D & ALBW sold over 400K. Phantom Hourglass was close to 1M, and Spirit Tracks was like 700K.

BoTW will probably outsell Skyward Sword in a week. It'll be interesting to see whether it can pass TP.
 

Anth0ny

Member
While its not set in stone, I think its very reasonable to assume at this point that it is easily going to surpass the Wii U, possibly in its first full year (march to march) once MK8, Spaltoon 2, and Mario Odyssey are all on the system. Especially if a MHXX port is on the one, and a possible pokemon.

Actually it's pretty easy to tell. It's by far a better product and more appealing than the Wii U. It's easier to understand than the Wii U. And the first 9 months of Switch consists of multiple system seller games and blows the Wii U's first 9 months out of the water.

Also, the Wii U launched in the holidays, while this launched in March.

Outselling the wii u is not an accomplishment
 

Emhemed

Member
While its not set in stone, I think its very reasonable to assume at this point that it is easily going to surpass the Wii U, possibly in its first full year (march to march) once MK8, Spaltoon 2, and Mario Odyssey are all on the system. Especially if a MHXX port is on the one, and a possible pokemon.

The WiiU is a bad example the console has sold just over 3m, surpassing it alone won't be enough for the Switch to be considered a success.
 
You're leaving out all the portable titles though. OOT 3D sold 600K, MM3D & ALBW sold over 400K. Phantom Hourglass was close to 1M, and Spirit Tracks was like 700K.

BoTW will probably outsell Skyward Sword in a week. It'll be interesting to see whether it can pass TP.

TP and MM I think are easily going to be beat at this point. Its already over 400K when you factor digital (I find it hard to believe digital is under 20K)
 

Fisico

Member
Wii Sports not being bundled in Japan has always been a pretty intriguing tidbit. And the amusing thing is, Nintendo Land also wasn't bundled in Japan.

Well it was bundled occasionally in western markets but I don't think that was the norm either?
Still remember the bomba prices the game got back then.

EDIT : And here come the usuals downplaying of Switch sales lol, it's like a neverending cycle.
 
Outselling the wii u is not an accomplishment

Outselling the Wii U LTD in one year would be great. Outselling the Wii U's launch period, say, first two months, would be phenomenal considering it launched in the holiday season and the Switch did not and is supply constrained.
 

MTC100

Banned
The Switch is still sold out around the globe, the WiiU was readily available almost everywhere within its first month AND the WiiU was launched in the Holiday Season...

Nintendo also shipped a lot more WiiUs in hopes it would do as well as the Wii for launch, they shipped less Switch because of the failure the WiiU was. So comparing the initial sales is not really a possibility. I guess we can get our Nintendoomed memes ready if the Switch isn't instantly selling what Nintendo ships anymore. -And if the Switch hasn't outsold the WiiU by April 1st 2018. If you ask me, I guess the Switch will reach 15 milion units by that time, the WiiU won't.

I don't think the Switch can do as well as the Wii, while it's a possibility of course, I guess it will sell along the lines of the 3DS eventually.
 

L~A

Member
Well it was bundled occasionally in western markets but I don't think that was the norm either?
Still remember the bomba prices the game got back then.

It was in the Premium Pack from launch until they released the Wind Waker HD bundle (after that they began cycling games). But here, I was just pointing out that they followed the same strategy for both the Wii and Wii U (with only the west getting a game with the launch pack).
 

test_account

XP-39C²
Still makes me laugh that people think this system will flop like the Wii U. I honestly never had a doubt. The moment they showed the product, it looked like a winner.
Its also the successor to the 3DS, and the WiiU. I would expect at least 15million LTD for a system like that. Nintendo also have high expectations for it, expecting 110 million (worldwide).

EDIT: It seems that Nintendo (or Kimishima specifically) said that the Switch had the potential to sell like the Wii, not that this was necessarily their expectation.
 

Ninferno

Member
Good to see the Switch hold. If it continues to stand its ground before Splatoon 2 drops, it's going to dominate the Japan scene for the days to come.

Btw,
Switch LTD: 519.504
BotW LTD: 302.080
What are these 200k or so people buying the switch so early for??? I know the BotW number doesn't account for digital but that's just too big a gap to expect digital to fill.
 

Fisico

Member
I don't think the Switch can do as well as the Wii, while it's a possibility of course, I guess it will sell along the lines of the 3DS eventually.

12M isn't a huge milestone to reach if you're going for both the handheld and console market.
In fact 12M should be a mid-low expectation for Switch in Japan, that would be less than half what the 3DS will do in the end.
 
Good to see the Switch hold. If it continues to stand its ground before Splatoon 2 drops, it's going to dominate the Japan scene for the days to come.

Btw,
Switch LTD: 519.504
BotW LTD: 302.080
What are these 200k or so people buying the switch so early for??? I know the BotW number doesn't account for digital but that's just too big a gap to expect digital to fill.

I know GAF likes to think switch only has Zelda but look on the charts there are othergames
 

Anth0ny

Member
Its also the successor to the 3DS, and the WiiU. I would expect at least 15million LTD for a system like that. Nintendo also have high expectations for it, expecting 110 million (worldwide).

15m for switch down from 26m+ combined for 3DS and Wii U does not seem so great. Nintendo has massive expectations for this thing.

But I agree. I'm expecting some real low numbers hardware numbers between Kart and Splatoon.
 
Its also the successor to the 3DS, and the WiiU. I would expect at least 15million LTD for a system like that. Nintendo also have high expectations for it, expecting 110 million (worldwide).
It doesn't work like that...There's a good amount of crossover between Wii U and 3DS fans
 

Waji

Member
I also think some people underestimate how Mario Kart 8D is going to help.

Btw,
Switch LTD: 519.504
BotW LTD: 302.080
What are these 200k or so people buying the switch so early for??? I know the BotW number doesn't account for digital but that's just too big a gap to expect digital to fill.
Any other game.

??
 
15m for switch down from 32m+ combined for 3DS and Wii U does not seem so great. Nintendo has massive expectations for this thing.

But I agree. I'm expecting some real low numbers hardware numbers between Kart and Splatoon.

What? Splatoon carried the Wii U for months and boosted its hardware pretty good. To think it wouldn't do the same for the Switch is odd to me.
 

test_account

XP-39C²
15m for switch down from 32m+ combined for 3DS and Wii U does not seem so great. Nintendo has massive expectations for this thing.

But I agree. I'm expecting some real low numbers hardware numbers between Kart and Splatoon.
Its less than that, 3DS + WiiU is currently at about 26m. 3DS will probably sell at least 1 million more, so it will be around 27m. Its still a big drop, but i think that is expected.


Where is this coming from?
From Nintendo CEO, Kimishima, himself. I'm not sure if he specifically said 110 million, but he did say that its expected to sell as well as the Wii. I think something similar was said about the WiiU, but still, it shows that expecations arent low.


It doesn't work like that...There's a good amount of crossover between Wii U and 3DS fans
True, but the WiiU will sell like 3.4 million units. Even if that is an 100% overlap, 3DS alone will do maybe around 24 million. So a 15 million number is still a big drop.


A misunderstanding of something that Kimishima said.
What did he mean to say?
 
15m for switch down from 32m+ combined for 3DS and Wii U does not seem so great. Nintendo has massive expectations for this thing.

But I agree. I'm expecting some real low numbers hardware numbers between Kart and Splatoon.

3DS and Wii U combined are closer to 26m in Japan. It also isn't exactly reasonable to expect it to sell the combined number of the systems before it with the overlap of user bases.
 

L~A

Member
Does japan have the joycons snipperclips bundle? Perhaps its that

There's no such bundle in Japan, actually. And Famitsu clearly indicates it's for download cards. I think it's one of the rare times (along with Pokémon VC) that we've had download cards in the Top 30.
 
There's no such bundle in Japan, actually. And Famitsu clearly indicates it's for download cards. I think it's one of the rare times (along with Pokémon VC) that we've had download cards in the Top 30.

Quite a good number i guess? I presume download only games likely sell better directly on the eshop than they do as a card?
 

Nairume

Banned
From Nintendo CEO, Kimishima, himself. I'm not sure if he specifically said 110 million, but he did say that its expected to sell as well as the Wii.
What did he mean to say?

From what I recall, Kimishima's actual statement was that he thinks it has the potential to reach "Wii-like sales," which then got mistranslated into "expects Wii-like sales," and then taken as Nintendo expects to sell 110 million units.

Like, I remember people going crazy over Serkan Toto's initial tweet about him expecting Wii-like sales before it later came out that it was a slight mistranslation and Kimishima's actual statement was a lot more tame.
 
From what I recall, Kimishima's actual statement was that he thinks it has the potential to reach "Wii-like sales," which then got mistranslated into "expects Wii-like sales," and then taken as Nintendo expects to sell 110 million units.

Like, I remember people going crazy over Serkan Toto's initial tweet about him expecting Wii-like sales before it later came out that it was a slight mistranslation and Kimishima's actual statement was a lot more tame.

Damn. That telephone effect.
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
There's no such bundle in Japan, actually. And Famitsu clearly indicates it's for download cards. I think it's one of the rare times (along with Pokémon VC) that we've had download cards in the Top 30.

Right, but why wasn't it there in previous weeks? It clearly should've charted at least once before.
 
3DS and Wii U combined are closer to 26m in Japan. It also isn't exactly reasonable to expect it to sell the combined number of the systems before it with the overlap of user bases.

i'm also curious about families with multiple kids and any possibility of buying multiple handhelds. I know it happened in the gbc/gba/ds generations. Did it still happen in the 3ds generation? cause I'd expect the odds of a family double-dipping to be way lower with the switch.
 

MTC100

Banned
Good to see the Switch hold. If it continues to stand its ground before Splatoon 2 drops, it's going to dominate the Japan scene for the days to come.

I am also very pleased so far, Japan is the most important market for the Switch to dominate in in my opinion, because that's where all the Japanese devs are coming from and that's where a lot of their games are sold. I don't think the system will get many games from western publishers but that's fine, I have my PC for that.

The Switch has to make it clear to Square Enix, Capcom, Namco, Atlus among others, that it is the system of choice to develop for, ultimately succeeding the 3DS.

12M isn't a huge milestone to reach if you're going for both the handheld and console market.
In fact 12M should be a mid-low expectation for Switch in Japan, that would be less than half what the 3DS will do in the end.

True, I was thinking about worldwide numbers though, the Switch will have a hard time to sell more than the Wii on a world wide basis. As for Japan I think it has a good chance at reaching 3DS numbers, perhaps surpassing them by a good amount, we'll see.
 
i'm also curious about families with multiple kids and any possibility of buying multiple handhelds. I know it happened in the gbc/gba/ds generations. Did it still happen in the 3ds generation? cause I'd expect the odds of a family double-dipping to be way lower with the switch.

Double dipping switches will happen when the price comes down
 
15m for switch down from 32m+ combined for 3DS and Wii U does not seem so great. Nintendo has massive expectations for this thing.

But I agree. I'm expecting some real low numbers hardware numbers between Kart and Splatoon.

Your expections are not based on the evidence we have now, then. So they are probably going to be very wrong
 
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