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Anime Mafia |OT| My Little Scum can't be this cute! ()

ultron87

Member
Poltergust's "well you can lynch me" feels so aggressively selfless that I can't help but read it as scum trying as hard as possible to look like helpful town.
 
They're both new players, so I would townread Poltergust more than Nomadic,

the former comes off as a new player whos ordinary and thinks hes no great loss, the latter comes off as possible scum trying to throw people off him with the possible threat of being a PR?

He could also be a real PR of course.

What's a PR?

Poltergust's "well you can lynch me" feels so aggressively selfless that I can't help but read it as scum trying as hard as possible to look like helpful town.

I'm not trying to save myself here, though. There's no doubletalk going on here and I'm not attempting to deceive anyone. If some people think that I am, that's completely on them.

The whole point of me doing this is that I want to give the town a "safe" option to lynch in the situation where we don't have a strong case on anyone.
 

SkyOdin

Member
What's a PR?



I'm not trying to save myself here, though. There's no doubletalk going on here and I'm not attempting to deceive anyone. If some people think that I am, that's completely on them.

The whole point of me doing this is that I want to give the town a "safe" option to lynch in the situation where we don't have a strong case on anyone.

Okay, you have been consistantly engaging in a dangerous behavior Poltergust, and it has gotten to the point where I feel the need to make a big deal out of it. It relates to your question. "PR" is short for "Power Role", members of town who possess special abilities in addition to the basic voting power all townies possess. In contrast, a normal townie is called a "vanilla townie".

However, basic town strategy is to keep all clues as to the identities of town's power roles as quiet as possible. If the Mafia can narrow down who town's power roles are, they can kill our cops and doctors. This is why town tries to not claim who they are unless necessary.

Furthermore, that applies to vanilla townies just as much as power roles. If a bunch of vanilla townies admit that they are vanilla, then that significantly narrows down the list of PR candidates for the mafia to kill. So a vanilla townie should never casually admit to that fact.

So when I see you mentioning repeatedly how you are not important or a "safe" candidate for a lynch, it sets off a few alarms. The first time you did it, I took it as an innocent mistake. However, you keep making insinuations along those lines. An optimistic reading is that you are a townie who doesn't know better than to engage in wildly anti-town behavior. An alternative reading is that you are scum, and you are trying to play up how unimportant and unthreatening you are in order to get town to pass you off as just a newbie making mistakes.
 
If a bunch of vanilla townies admit that they are vanilla, then that significantly narrows down the list of PR candidates for the mafia to kill. So a vanilla townie should never casually admit to that fact.

So when I see you mentioning repeatedly how you are not important or a "safe" candidate for a lynch, it sets off a few alarms. The first time you did it, I took it as an innocent mistake. However, you keep making insinuations along those lines. An optimistic reading is that you are a townie who doesn't know better than to engage in wildly anti-town behavior. An alternative reading is that you are scum, and you are trying to play up how unimportant and unthreatening you are in order to get town to pass you off as just a newbie making mistakes.

Thank you for laying it all out.

Be interesting to see what happens after this. ໒( ͡ᵔ ▾ ͡ᵔ )७
 
Furthermore, that applies to vanilla townies just as much as power roles. If a bunch of vanilla townies admit that they are vanilla, then that significantly narrows down the list of PR candidates for the mafia to kill. So a vanilla townie should never casually admit to that fact.

Hm, that's a new thing to consider. By default, I consider everyone to be vanilla, so when someone says that they are vanilla it never really registers as a red flag to me or anything.

You are right though; I didn't even consider what the Mafia would think of my behavior. v_v
 

SkyOdin

Member
For the record, I will make some comment on my interpretation of roles in this game. In short, we shouldn't assume anything and can't presume any player is truly "vanilla" at this stage of the game.

Based on the example flip given in the OP, it appears that everyone in this game has been assigned a gender.

We have no idea what effect that has yet.

It might be assumed that it plays into power roles. It might be a really elaborate red herring.

Either way, it means that none of us are actually "vanilla".

If... (and this is still an if at this point) power roles do interact with gender, then we can't decide how critical or not any one person is yet. After all, we don't know what the gender ratio of roles is. For example, there may be only two or three male roles in the game, at which point male roles are effectively special. We don't know at this point.

Don't take this as an invitation to admit any details of your role! Keep all details of your role secret until it is absolutely necessary to flush out scum!
 
Also, this game was designed by burbeting-sama which means there is certainly a 100% chance of hidden gossip chats being in play.

So, if you are town and you share a chat with someone whose alignment you don't know for a fact, that person is scum and you should tell us who they are.

I think everyone's had time to check-in/read this.

I guess I can't blame anyone for not wanting to come forward.

Why put a huge target on yourself ​afterall...

You don't have to come forward whoever you are. Just think about whether you can really trust whomever you've been paired up with.
 
A lil theory I had is that there is some kind of pairing scenario in which there are "lovers" of sorts but they don't know who their partner is. Or there's a Cupid like I was in Overwatch and the role is a neutral.

Either way, I don't think it's entirely implausible considering many popular anime series have some sort of partnership / love triangle. Senpai may truly notice us!

(´ε` )♡
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
It's clearly a harem mechanic. I imagine the harem lead will need to add all the girls in this game to his harem to win!
 

SkyOdin

Member
While people are here....

Dragonz, cabot, you both have listed Haly as solidly town in your read lists, but I honestly don't quite see it. Most of Haly's posts in this thread have been one-line comments, usually rather light in scum-hunting at that. Why such strong reads? I think one of you called Haly "aggressive", but I would like some quotes to back up those impressions.
 
A lil theory I had is that there is some kind of pairing scenario in which there are "lovers" of sorts but they don't know who their partner is. Or there's a Cupid like I was in Overwatch and the role is a neutral.

Either way, I don't think it's entirely implausible considering many popular anime series have some sort of partnership / love triangle. Senpai may truly notice us!

(´ε` )♡

I wonder if there's a shipper role for town, now

( * 3*)
 
I'm confused, why are we talking about mixed alignment chats on Day 1?

Have I missed something
Yeah it's right on the OP:

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DAY 1 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:

squidyj (2)
cabot 116 146
SkyOdin 131
30yearsofhurt 251

No Lynch (2)
Poltergust 119
Nomadic Sparks 351

Nomadic Sparks (1)
Palmer_v1 352 398
cabot 353

Poltergust (1)
squidyj 289

Haly (1)
cabot 146 305
Palmer_v1 398

30yearsofhurt (1)
rac 335

Kyanrute (1)
Dusk Soldier 308

hey_monkey (1)
TheExodu5 344

hatmoza (1)
cabot 347 353
hey_monkey 453

WhereAreMahDragonz (1)
BlackBuzzard 320

rac (1)
Swamped 204
30yearsofhurt 220 251

Dusk Soldier (0): cabot 305 347

cabot (0): Palmer_v1 274 352

No active vote for Day 1: Bowlie, Cewyn, Haly, hatmoza, Kyanrute, oreomunsta, StanleyPalmtree, ultron87, WhereAreMahDragonz, Zubz

Day 1 Postcount: 30yearsofhurt 11, BlackBuzzard 9, Bowlie 6, cabot 45, Cewyn 1, Dusk Soldier 11, Haly 13, hatmoza 0, hey_monkey 37, Kyanrute 4, Nomadic Sparks 18, oreomunsta 15, Palmer_v1 17, Poltergust 30, rac 14, SkyOdin 22, squidyj 25, StanleyPalmtree 5, Swamped 7, TheExodu5 3, ultron87 5, WhereAreMahDragonz 42, Zubz 8


Day 1 ends:
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12 votes for majority
 

Palmer_v1

Member
We're dealig with Burb here. He ran an entire game of lovers. I would not be surprised to find out Haly and Squidyj are already shipmates.

Give it to the cop to hold.

I should be clear that this is a joke from a previous game, and I am not in possession of any dolls at this time, nor do I expect to be.
 
While people are here....

Dragonz, cabot, you both have listed Haly as solidly town in your read lists, but I honestly don't quite see it. Most of Haly's posts in this thread have been one-line comments, usually rather light in scum-hunting at that. Why such strong reads? I think one of you called Haly "aggressive", but I would like some quotes to back up those impressions.

I'll find them again when I'm home and on my PC
 

Bowlie

Banned
I'm willing to trust that Poltergust really didn't know about day powers, or what vanilla could mean. I think lying about not knowing how to play the game would be too much.

I wonder if there's a shipper role for town, now

( * 3*)

I don't need a role to ship, but I do not have an OTP yet, which is a little sad.

---

Where is the sloth and hatmoza ;~
 
I'm willing to trust that Poltergust really didn't know about day powers, or what vanilla could mean. I think lying about not knowing how to play the game would be too much.

I know how to play, but it's always been in-person up until now, and even then I haven't played that many times.

So when I see some terminology or abbreviations I'm unfamiliar with (like PR) I want to know what people are talking about. >.>
 

SkyOdin

Member
Palmer....

Overwatch characters probably would count as gaijin superhero scum.

Are you accusing Dragonz of being scum or is this some sort of scum tell on your part?
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Palmer....

Overwatch characters probably would count as gaijin superhero scum.

Are you accusing Dragonz of being scum or is this some sort of scum tell on your part?
This is pretty tenuous, I think Palmer is just posting from his 30GB stash of Mercy art.
 

Palmer_v1

Member
Palmer....

Overwatch characters probably would count as gaijin superhero scum.

Are you accusing Dragonz of being scum or is this some sort of scum tell on your part?

Her CURRENT avatar is an overwatch character. I just searched for an anime version. Projecting much?
 

SkyOdin

Member
Man, everyone else gets to make the occasional joke.

I'm a little surprised that people got so defensive about it, though.
 

Kevyt

Member
Poltergust's "well you can lynch me" feels so aggressively selfless that I can't help but read it as scum trying as hard as possible to look like helpful town.

I agree, for the most part... It also feels lazy in my opinion. Yet I am willing to give him benefit of the doubt since it feels like something inexperienced players would do. It reads as scum but it's only day 1.

We're dealig with Burb here. He ran an entire game of lovers. I would not be surprised to find out Haly and Squidyj are already shipmates.

Ha!I wouldn't be surprised either. The bear is tricky.

Kinda NSFW, mostly just lewd:

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I ship them. Though I prefer Sombra/Mercy because of this: https://youtu.be/fi8qI3e3t7s

#Sercy
 

Zubz

Banned
I'm confused, why are we talking about mixed alignment chats on Day 1?

Have I missed something

I'm honestly more confused as to why we've had several role claims, & I only think one was a joke. Maybe you are all the "Baka Gaijin" I've been informed about through my Japanimation.
 

Haly

One day I realized that sadness is just another word for not enough coffee.
Aside from squidy who else "claimed"? I'm not seeing claims so much as baits.

A claim is like: "I am ASH KETCHUM. My role is POKEMON MASTER. I need to defeat the ELITE FOUR to fill my victory condition. You all should listen to me because SO AND SO."

Going "i'm a cop lol xd" is not a real "claim".
 

squidyj

Member
Aside from squidy who else "claimed"? I'm not seeing claims so much as baits.

A claim is like: "I am ASH KETCHUM. My role is POKEMON MASTER. I need to defeat the ELITE FOUR to fill my victory condition. You all should listen to me because SO AND SO."

Going "i'm a cop lol xd" is not a real "claim".

please, i've already given you dweebs enough information to figure out who I am.
 

Zubz

Banned
Not sure what a shipper would imply in a game of mafia. Is there a common analog to this role? Is it detrimental to town?

I don't know about Mafia, but Werewolf has Cupid, who wins when their selected Lovers are the only 2 other players remaining. The Lovers can only win this way, & die if their partner dies despite not knowing who their Lover is. Cupid has an "out" in some rulesets, where they join the Town if the Lovers die.

It makes a really difficult game for the Lovers. But this is Burb, so I expect there to be several Cupids.
 
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