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Who is the most famous person in human history?
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Chuckie
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Somebody should start a thread about historical Jesus, because it is actually kind of interesting. It seems a rather controversial topic tbh. Some of the sources in this topic seem to be very influenced by who writes about it.
Like for instance in that Guardian article the writer says their is an abundance of written proof including Josephus, although some of his texts might be altered a bit.
The Wiki article on the other hand states out loud that the paragraphs on Jesus in Josephus' work were added centuries later and clearly false.
Like for instance in that Guardian article the writer says their is an abundance of written proof including Josephus, although some of his texts might be altered a bit.
The Wiki article on the other hand states out loud that the paragraphs on Jesus in Josephus' work were added centuries later and clearly false.
LeadenStride
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I think philosophy is more likely to be Aristotle or even Plato.
MilkyJoe
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Or the result of a tall tale that's got out of hand, laid down by a promiscuous Mary of Nazareth...
Airola
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I don't think people are interested in football as much as you would hope they would be
Personally I have no idea what Ronaldo looks like. And even less of an idea of what Ronaldinho looks like. I know their names though and know they play football.
But what do I know. Maybe they are known to all and I've just been dropped from the wagon. I mean, I once saw a person who didn't know who Bono and U2 was. Didn't even know them by their name. I guess there must be some very super famous people I'm as ignorant about as that person was.
Mary, the mother of Jesus? lol
Maybe Cleopatra? I mean, that's something I could imagine people would easily be able to say if they'd been shown certain pictures.
Spaced Harrier
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Mary
Cleopatra
Queen Victoria
Marie Antoinette
Marie Curie
Imelda Marcos
Maggie Thatcher at one point?
Cleopatra
Queen Victoria
Marie Antoinette
Marie Curie
Imelda Marcos
Maggie Thatcher at one point?
Lovely Salsa
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How many people were on earth when jesus was alive? He was probably the biggest cult leader
Why would people from a non Judeo-Christian-Muslim background know about Jesus? Popstars and sports figures transcend religion.
Prototype Viktor
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Not everyone shook brainwashing
Else there wouldn't have been all those enemas back then
Or falling back to religion when they couldn't find a answer
MilkyJoe
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Don't be daft. It's Jesus H Christ not Saint Hubbins
This should be nominated for GAF-iest post of the year.
although I wouldn't say he was the most famous ever, of recent figures Pope JP2 has to be up there. was pope nearly 30 years and travelled seemingly everywhere in that time, to places/populations that weren't well tech/tv connected too. lived through the first 10 years of the the WWW, and him dying and the replacement process was on the news for seemingly ages.
he only died in 2005, for some reason it feels a lot longer than that. (probably because we're already on our 2nd Pope after him)
he only died in 2005, for some reason it feels a lot longer than that. (probably because we're already on our 2nd Pope after him)
Dynamite Shikoku
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King Joffrey
Spaced Harrier
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Seconded
Skellig Gra
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Lmao so edgy. Muhammad wasn't even a supernatural figure and there is tons of historical evidence for him. Tell me how/why he is fake?
Queen Victoria or Elizabeth of England would be my picks.
Kill Your Masters
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Simple actually, what year is it now?
It's not 4.something billion in our calendars, it's 2017. We are counting from a specific event in time.
Count Dookkake
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autumnleaf
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This is silly, you don't have to be religious to know who Jesus and Mohammed are. Show a man on a cross to literally anyone in the world and they will know it's Jesus. Lots of people have no interest in pop music and sports.
Marauder Shields
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Is Cristiano Ronaldo even the most famous Ronaldo?
Skellig Gra
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No that's Ronaldinho
Frankfurter
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You know that not all countries do it this way?
Kill Your Masters
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I am aware that there is the Hijri and Islamic calendar and many other, and some countries use these, but most countries are on Gregorian time, arent they?
Skellig Gra
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Western countries but the majority of the worlds population is in the East.
I confess that even as I was adding him to the list, I suspected that I was stretching things by including him.
Chuckie
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So what do China and Japan use? I know Indonesia primarily uses the Gregorian calendar/years.
Edit: Never mind. The Gregorian calendar is the de facto international standard and only a few countries use a different one.
Madonna would be my first guess.
Bolivar687
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It's heartbreaking that anyone could think it's even a debate.
Who's that, might I ask?
IbukiLordSA
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Superman, easily, everyone knows Superman.
efyu_lemonardo
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You do know the Christian calendar isn't used by everyone right?
Chuckie
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No but by ALMOST everyone. There are four countries that don't use it and a couple of countries that use another calendar on the side.
Kill Your Masters
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Yes, 5 do not use it at all. And for Islamic countries the point of knowing Jesus still stands with or without counting from AD.
The rest of us use Gregorian as "civil calendar" or at least alongside the "local" one.
efyu_lemonardo
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Yes, 5 do not use it at all. And for Islamic countries the point of knowing Jesus still stands with or without counting from AD.
The rest of us use Gregorian as "civil calendar" or at least alongside the "local" one.
Thanks for the info!
MilkyJoe
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And I don't even feel bad, because if Jesus and the whole fable is true, then by modern standards it's the most logical truth. "The simplest explanation is usually the truth"
Fantastapotamus
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Gotta be Hitler. Who doesn't know that dude?
David Beckham is a very good shout.
He's very well known in the US
He's very well known in the countries where football (soccer) is popular which is much of the world. Messi is not that well known outside people who have zero interest in football. I hate to generalise but to give a broad example, a lot women won't have any idea who Messi is but Beckham, absolutely.
Thirdly and very importantly, he's very well known in Asia.
Look at this map to see where where the most people live: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=m...=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=_N3gfTXv7trGlM:
He's very well known in the US
He's very well known in the countries where football (soccer) is popular which is much of the world. Messi is not that well known outside people who have zero interest in football. I hate to generalise but to give a broad example, a lot women won't have any idea who Messi is but Beckham, absolutely.
Thirdly and very importantly, he's very well known in Asia.
Look at this map to see where where the most people live: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=m...=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#imgrc=_N3gfTXv7trGlM:
Chuckie
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His star is already rapidly fading though. Nobody gives a shit about Becks or Posh anymore.
People will have long forgotten him before they forget Jesus or Hitler.
Sato Koiji
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His mother named him after Ronald Reagan. So Cristiano is Ronald Reagan.
The gregorian calendar is used in a lot of countries nowadays, it sort of became the standard because of trade and whatnot. However that doesn't mean everyone that uses the calendar knows the reason why we are in 2017, as I have posted before in Japan and China they don't refer to 2017 AD but more of 2017 in the western calendar. I guess most of us here in GAF know about the existence of chinese or hebrew calendar, but have you ever bothered to know when they started counting and the reason why they chose their year 1?
efyu_lemonardo
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Actually I'd like to see evidence that the average person in Africa and Asia knows or even cares why the internationally accepted calendar year is 2017.
They could be familiar with the calendar without having ever heard of Jesus.
They could be familiar with the calendar without having ever heard of Jesus.
psychowave
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This is as far as I know one of the most common arguments in favor of Jesus existing as far as I know; the fact that some parts of the Bible make Jesus look "bad" and hence are probably true since his followers wouldn't want to make him look bad.
However, that seems at odds with the values that Catholicism (supposedly) teaches. I was raised by a Catholic mother in a Catholic country, went to Catholic school, the whole nine yards. Humility and self-sacrifice are important values of Catholicism as I was taught it, so making Jesus look humble and making him die in the most excruciating
(pun intended)
Note that I don't mean to prove you, or hundreds of scholars wrong with just my own personal experience with Catholicism. It's just odd to me how that theory seems to contradict what I've been taught.
efyu_lemonardo
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