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Should the next Smash game come with all characters unlocked?
- Thread starter Deft Beck
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Hmmm. I could see the value in a code you must reenter every time you turn on the game. Gives you the full roster right away but if you want to keep it without inputting the code every time you have to unlock each character proper.
Oh, an amiibo Smash card packed-in that worked like this could please all
Finale Fireworker
Member
Unlocking content, as a primarily single-player gamer, is crucial to my experience. In Melee, I would occasionally delete my save data so I could unlock all the content again.
But I understand that competitive players need all the content available from the get-go and I support a code or a mode that opens these features at the start.
It's too bad, because the newer methods of unlocking characters are really uninspired. I want more unique unlock conditions that simply fighting ten matches.
But I understand that competitive players need all the content available from the get-go and I support a code or a mode that opens these features at the start.
It's too bad, because the newer methods of unlocking characters are really uninspired. I want more unique unlock conditions that simply fighting ten matches.
awesome_pants
Banned
No.
One of my favorite Smash memories was playing Smash Bros Melee all night to get the game clock to be 24 hours to unlock MewTwo.
One of my favorite Smash memories was playing Smash Bros Melee all night to get the game clock to be 24 hours to unlock MewTwo.
DrunkShogun
Member
At least the ones they announce in trailers because there really isn't a surprise other than how to unlock it. If they keep the character a secret then definitely keep it behind as a unlock.
old manatee
Banned
They should introduce characters and then permanently discontinue them.
MrRudiMentary
Member
On one hand I love unlocking characters, but on the other it sucks trying to play the game competitively. I think I'd put in a really easy cheat code to unlock everything for those serious enough.
Linkstrikesback
Member
No. I want to unlock at least half the cast. Or at least, I would, if they hadn't gutted the single player options compared to Brawl and even Melee.
They should probably have a cheat code or menu option to just unlock everything though.
They should probably have a cheat code or menu option to just unlock everything though.
Absolutely. It is beyond tedious having to unlock over a dozen characters, especially when they've been featured in previous Smash games. In the age of leaks and datamining, any thrill a new challenger could present is non-existent when nearly every character and the unlock method is revealed prior to launch. If they can't give you a cheat code to unlock it, then abolish the system.
LinkSlayer64
Member
An amendment to my cheat code option - they should hire Kojima to come up with a PT level secret code that unlocks everything, something that would require the entire internet coming together to figure out, that way Nintendo doesn't feel like they're just giving it out for free
Deft Beck
Member
Then, let people have the option.
Why does it matter if it's a port or not? Because it ruins the surprise? Not like there's any of that anymore.
The fanbase would flip, I think.
This is the most rational course of action, in my opinion.
Some games you enjoy so much that, yes, one may not only not mind unlocking all anew, but actively looking forward to do so. Opinions differ, of course.
arturo2666
Banned
Actually like this idea a lot. I'm a fan of the unlocks because they give me a reward-structure that keeps me playing the single player stuff when I don't have people over. This would satisfy both sides I think.
Unlockables are essentially the only carrot for the single player in these sorts of games, so I'd like more unlockables, not less. Single player is a big draw for me. Starting off with just the original N64 cast would be awesome.
Count me in with the people disappointed in the lack of MK8D unlockables. Honestly put a bit of a damper on my enthusiasm.
Some sort of a code input or toggle is the obvious, harmless solution that Sakurai will ignore, of course. Just like a hazard toggle.
Count me in with the people disappointed in the lack of MK8D unlockables. Honestly put a bit of a damper on my enthusiasm.
Some sort of a code input or toggle is the obvious, harmless solution that Sakurai will ignore, of course. Just like a hazard toggle.
Give people a cheatcode. Those who want the characters day one can have them and the folks who like unlocking them will keep doing their thing. Everyone is happy.
There's no gratification for a new character when you have seen them already.
I lost my original save on the 3DS and going through all the unlocks again is a fucking chore.
There's no gratification for a new character when you have seen them already.
I lost my original save on the 3DS and going through all the unlocks again is a fucking chore.
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Deleted member 752119
Unconfirmed Member
Maybe do a hybrid approach.
All unlocked for online and local MP modes (the main ones anyway).
But have to unlock them to use them in the single player modes.
That give us single player primarily/only gamers the progression we like, while letting the MP only/mostly crowd just dive right in.
All unlocked for online and local MP modes (the main ones anyway).
But have to unlock them to use them in the single player modes.
That give us single player primarily/only gamers the progression we like, while letting the MP only/mostly crowd just dive right in.
There should just be some sort of cheat to unlock characters directly. That way only enthusiasts looking for that sort of thing online will even know about it and everyone else will still be able to unlock them.
I feel like thats how it should be for most fighting games. Competitive players/tournament hosts don't get annoyed with unlock conditions and casual players and other enthusiast who chose to do it themselves will still get motivation out of character unlocks.
I feel like thats how it should be for most fighting games. Competitive players/tournament hosts don't get annoyed with unlock conditions and casual players and other enthusiast who chose to do it themselves will still get motivation out of character unlocks.
PRjumpman124
Member
Personally I think it'd be boring to have it all unlocked from the start. Smash 4 disappointed me with how fast you could unlock them all.
People who are suggesting to charge a fee to unlock is really interesting because years ago this would have caused an outrage. How far we've come.
I think what they should do is have part of the roster unlocked from the jump, duh. Other characters are available to unlock immediately via an in game currency you get for playing, maybe you see them on the character select screen or just silouhettes. Then a handful of secret characters. That to me is ideal cause I don't want to have to play a bunch of matches to get my Falcon Punch on.
I think what they should do is have part of the roster unlocked from the jump, duh. Other characters are available to unlock immediately via an in game currency you get for playing, maybe you see them on the character select screen or just silouhettes. Then a handful of secret characters. That to me is ideal cause I don't want to have to play a bunch of matches to get my Falcon Punch on.
Cipher Peon
Banned
Easy solution!
Have almost every character locked, but have a cheat code for unlocking them all temporarily!
Have almost every character locked, but have a cheat code for unlocking them all temporarily!
There are people that don't play Smash for the online.
Deft Beck
Member
Just have them all unlocked. No song and dance.
That's the best case scenario.
What about people who like to practice against the CPU?
GlassEmpires
Member
A port of smash 4 should have the custom moves unlocked. Maybe lock characters for single player
MiamiWesker
Member
No damn it. Unlocking is part of the game, it gets you to try stuff you may not otherwise try. It creates a sort of guide as to objectives you should be doing. Unlocks are great.
Mass Effect
Member
Eh... I don't mind unlocking the characters usually.
Now if the Switch is just getting a Smash 4 port, then they should probably just be unlocked from the start.
Now if the Switch is just getting a Smash 4 port, then they should probably just be unlocked from the start.
Quintin DM
Member
I like having unlockable characters personally, but I get why some people would rather just have them all available from the start. I guess it would be ok if they added it as an option, but I'd be kind of disappointed if there were no unlockable fighters in the next Smash.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
I like unlocking them too, but yeah ALL DLC should be included and ready for unlock.
LumpOfCole
Member
A literal cheat code should be able to be used at the start to at least temporarily unlock 'competitive mode' with everything unlocked in it.
adamantypants
Member
The unlock system was and is the #1 reason I never got into smash.
Geminosity
Member
As someone who's helped run a few tournies and gone to a friend's house who didn't have my main unlocked, I would deeply appreciate some kind of shortcut to unlock them (code or whatever)
I rather like the suggestion of having everyone in the MP modes but to play them in single player stuff (and online) you have to unlock them, that way someone's progress (or lack of it) doesn't hurt their friends popping by or taking the setup to a tournie :3
I rather like the suggestion of having everyone in the MP modes but to play them in single player stuff (and online) you have to unlock them, that way someone's progress (or lack of it) doesn't hurt their friends popping by or taking the setup to a tournie :3
I know I'm probably in the minority about this, but I love unlocking stuff in Smash (even if the surprise factor has been ruined). It gives me a reason to play the game and have something to work towards.
(That said, I absolutely agree in the case for customs. If they want more people using them, then those should be unlocked from the start.)
(That said, I absolutely agree in the case for customs. If they want more people using them, then those should be unlocked from the start.)
JinjoUnchained
Member
Give an option to pay an additional fee to unlock all characters from the start. Long time fans get the joy of unlocking and whales get monetized. Win-win.
HELL YES!!!!
Unlocking characters screws over competitive & casual players alike and only wastes time that you could be spending learning your main. Unlockables can be done through other means, but all characters & stages should be available from the start.
There's a reason why Capcom, ASW, (mostly) NRS, & even Bandai Namco (for Tekken) did away with unlockable characters. Get with the times, Smash.
Unlocking characters screws over competitive & casual players alike and only wastes time that you could be spending learning your main. Unlockables can be done through other means, but all characters & stages should be available from the start.
There's a reason why Capcom, ASW, (mostly) NRS, & even Bandai Namco (for Tekken) did away with unlockable characters. Get with the times, Smash.