...Aside from the bike being really out of place... You do realize that there IS a reward for doing all the shrines right?
No desire for them.
But I understand how others might.
An option in the main menu? I don't mind them as long as I can turn them off.
Nope I didnt know and thats the problem.
I would have known if there was an achievement!
Clear all 120 shrines (25 points)
Progress 55/120
Reward: Hylian Motorbike
Yes, just like adding in-game challenges can be hostile to people with strong OCD. Look at BotW with those 900 seeds being tied to 100% completion stats for example, but i dont see people complain about that in the same way. And thats just a recent example. Theres many games through history that has in-game challenges and stats. Would you argue that such things should be removed completely from games?OCD and achievements is a completely different matter. I would go so far to say that the way achievement systems are implemented is actually hostile to people with OCD and similar mental disorders.
"They are as much as a reward as you make it out to be." discounts the fact that the psychological conditioning designed into the system works on your subconscious mind. An Example:
*example*
The coercion is a but more subtle than that. But it is coercion, manipulation and conditioning in design and implementation. They are designed to keep you engaged in the platform and ultimately, when the achievements run out, buy more games.
"Oh no this very dear character is about to die! Cue to the tense music! Cue to the great camera work! Closeuppppp...
DING! "Achievement unlocked: Dramatic Scene!"
And that 6 figures budget for writing, modelling, animating, directing that scene went instantly into the shitter.
And this is basically why I disable achievement instantly on every platform. Tip of the hat to Nintendo for not even attempting this behavioral-conditioning nonsense.
Do you have any examples of this? Especially regarding the conclusion being spoiled.What about when it pops BEFORE the cutscene, so you know the chapter ended before even seeing the climax. Or, even better, when there's the conclusion right at the achievments title. Sure feels great
Do you have any examples of this? Especially regarding the conclusion being spoiled.
No worries, i was just curious. I dont think its common, at least not the spoiler thing. Some developers have also delt nicely with this. In Heavy Rain, i dont think that any trophies popped before the game was over. The Last of Us also had very few trophies during the first playthrough if i remember correctly.I don't unfortunately, I remember the situation, but not the specific game. I feel like saying Final Fantasy XIII, but I'm not sure if that's the case. (Not regarding spoilers, but them popping early)
Even without them, you, sir, are still doing the 0.1% impossible( if it had trophies). 827? Go Go Go! 900 is so close lol
Well. That escalated quickly.I believe many people in this thread that don't approve cheevos/trophies don't disapprove gay marriage. I know things are not comparable, but both may not affect you and still "the sanctity of X will be ruined". Gaf is quite hypocrite sometimes.
Yes, I'm the ignorant one, posting in a forum that this week called black people "afro people" and you're mad I think you play games for the wrong reason. Grow up.
Movies may not give trophies, but I still keep metadata on the movies I watch, because I catalog literally everything I consume ^^Why do you even play video games? Do movies give you trophies when you watch them? Or when you read a whole book? This is insane
No, the game is much more rewarding in itself than a trophy unlock has ever been.
No, the game is much more rewarding in itself than a trophy unlock has ever been.
I think people here don't seem to understand achievements/trophies are great for casual players. You can achieve small goals. If you have the time to play Zelda for 200 hours and turn every rock then that's fine, but lots of people don't have that time or desire.
It is but after having done all the dungeons, the memories,exploring the entire map, a lot of shrines( I'm at 80+ ) atm I'm getting a little bored getting the same weapons/arrows from chests and places over and over. Trophies could have extended the challenge made the game even more rewarding after even hundred hours spent.
I think people here don't seem to understand achievements/trophies are great for casual players. You can achieve small goals. If you have the time to play Zelda for 200 hours and turn every rock then that's fine, but lots of people don't have that time or desire.
This is not tied being a casual gamer or something like that. It is more a thing of character, since this is what decides where your feeling of reward will come from.
Even casual gamers are able to set their own goals and can feel rewarded by playing the game itself. The last generations just taught many gamers to inherit artificial goals from achievements, instead of being rewarded by good game design or stuff like that.
There is a reason why you get flooded by rewards and unlocks in Call of Duty titles.
I think people here don't seem to understand achievements/trophies are great for casual players. You can achieve small goals. If you have the time to play Zelda for 200 hours and turn every rock then that's fine, but lots of people don't have that time or desire.
Other people's ignorance doesn't excuse your own. This is childish logic, grow up and stop deflecting.
Telling people how they should play games is obnoxious, stay in your lane.
Playing games and looking forward to challenges created within the game is not a wrong reason. Nobody cares that you dont enjoy the challenges that many trophies offer to the player. Calling them 'participation ribbons' reeks of someone who is out of touch, you might as well tell me to get off your lawn. Mind your business about how other people enjoy their games, especially if it doesn't impact you.
Mannnnn they got some of y'all hooked good. Whoever came up with trophies is a genius lolol.
This thread is so bizarre to me. You can turn off notifications for trophies/achievements very easily. They will never pop up or notify you if you don't want them to.
If you strongly don't care about trophies/achievements, then why would you start caring about them all of a sudden? Just keep playing how you want to. For those that enjoy them, there's now this option. Tons of people enjoy these on other platforms, tons of people ignore them and everyone is fine with it.
Mannnnn they got some of y'all hooked good. Whoever came up with trophies is a genius lolol.