That is true. If Flush is miraculously healed but no one still claims poison doctor afterwards, they're basically leaving RF to die via lynch.
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Arkham Asylum Mafia |OT| It's time to kill the Bat
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That is true. If Flush is miraculously healed but no one still claims poison doctor afterwards, they're basically leaving RF to die via lynch.
Zippedpinhead
Member
Revealing you are poisoned makes sense regardless of alignment. It's the only way you can stay alive. That's why poison is such a frustrating mechanic. It can benefit town more to let the poisoned die (if 1-shot) than to save them and risk exposure. If multi-shot then it benefits town more to save them. With the first poisoning being Day 2 no one knows where we stand.
The bolded reads like scum who needs one more night to do something. The only reason I'm not voting you straight away is because the one thing that doesn't make sense is why would scum bring attention to themselves like this. So, what makes even more sense is a neutral who needs one more night to win. Then this is a preemptive way to excuse yourself from the vote (I'm poisoned anyway and if not, you can just deal with me tomorrow!).
Also, the part about you not being able to be targeted directly the night you activate is a little much, not buying the role.
Care to explain why my vote was weird? Sexy finally got to a lead where I could remove my vote and he wouldn't fall out of the top two and I didn't think Faddy or Worm were scum so I wanted to see if I could get some unsure people to jump over to the CCS. No one did and Sexy was being pushed up against by number two in the votes so I went back to Sexy to make sure he stayed top two.
Also, AB is claiming an investigative type role, I wouldn't pigeon hole yourself into thinking he said Tracker because he was very vague about it.
Unless he literally had to because of his role, I have no idea. It makes a slight bit of sense to put the name out there because then people might be interested in targeting that person but this happened after a doctor claim, vig claim, and whatever AB is claiming, there were already great targets to lightning rod.
No Bronx, that's just you that does that.
Someone else answered but I had already quoted this. The time table as presented is that if there were a poison doc, they would have exactly one night to cure it since poison always takes effect at the same time as the NKs and the doc action would happen before then.
Someone already brought this up at the beginning of the day. I guess Fran sold it as most people will be PRs, not all.
Yeah, neutral is higher than scum for me atm.
If he's still alive tomorrow and hasn't won, that reverses though.
Royal_Flush
Member
Who exactly claimed vig? And when?
AB and nudull both claimed after I announced I wouldn't follow the thread closely because I was at a friggin party. I had no clue that happened until Saturday morning. I literally took out my phone 10 minutes before the deadline, announced my target without reading the thread and put it away again. I had the "announce at the end to target a player I decently trust but wouldn't get killed" since early last dayphase. Just made sense. Due to the lack of roleclaims (up to the time I checked out that is) I didn't have the intention to use it as bodyguard role.
Anyway, I'm tired of discussing my role. If you're a poison healer either be prepared to claim tomorrow or don't bother healing me. Without backup I would get lynched tomorrow anyway.
Hopefully I can be of use on my (presumably) last day in this game. But not within the next couple of hours. Goodnight everyone.
The worry is that if he is scum, whatever damage he is trying to cause would definitely be done by tomorrow, he's not stupid, he is well aware that without hard evidence, he is lynched tomorrow if he is still alive.
Also not helping that my scum read is also giving the "wait until tomorrow" answer as well.
Judging from how at least Time talked about Bats in his recent posts, it looks like some people thought Bats might have been a coy vig. I never really settled on whether I believed him or not.
Quote fail!
We shouldn't all be claiming, best to keep quiet and not give scum any hints
We shouldn't all be claiming, best to keep quiet and not give scum any hints
The mental gymnastics it would take to believe repeated poison claims with repeated successful heals is too much to even consider this as an option. Similarly, if tomorrow RF is healed and someone claims the healing but we never hear of another's poisoned player again they won't escape attention for long.
That would be an insane gambit which would fall apart the moment one of them gets got.
As someone else said awhile ago, Natiko I think, there wouldn't be a poison doc for a 1-shot poisoner. Past that, as Vere just said, they'd never go through each member because that would just domino if any of them ever flip.
It does seem a little too shaky for it to work, all things considered. Would scum be that desperate?
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Why would scum do anything out of the ordinary when they're in an excellent position right now? If RF is telling the truth and town, his death tonight will be added to another town's death.
We pretty much have to hit scum today.
We pretty much have to hit scum today.
Zippedpinhead
Member
Take away from day end yesterday is that Faddy is still scummy but now we also have the flush poison, which many (myself included) don't really know what to do with.
There's really nothing to do with the Flush claim but wait. If it's the truth it'll resolve itself. If it's a scum gambit it is untenable and will fall through. If it's a neutral gambit then lynching him won't get us any closer to scum and we'll be in the same position as if he had just left the game barring that he somehow kills several others upon his exit which seems unlikely.
I've been on mobile since the day start so I haven't had a chance to go through everything again yet. I do believe we have one person that hasn't even checked in yet though. One person that I was already uncertain of so I may as well start there for now.
VOTE: acohrs
You've been pretty ambivalent this game. Reminds me of your scum game on MU. Anything you'd like to contribute today?
I've been on mobile since the day start so I haven't had a chance to go through everything again yet. I do believe we have one person that hasn't even checked in yet though. One person that I was already uncertain of so I may as well start there for now.
VOTE: acohrs
You've been pretty ambivalent this game. Reminds me of your scum game on MU. Anything you'd like to contribute today?
AbsolutBro
Member
You are really fishing here. I've given exactly one sentence of information about my role. I am not sure why you are trying to turn it into something more than that. I have explained I did it in case of my death, in which case it should make sense. Beyond that there is nothing to really consider.
I am also heavily scum read and have provided 0 useful information thusfar. Bats, on the other hand, was soft claiming a town killing role. It is not really hard to see why Bats was chosen instead of myself.
This is a role madness game, so it is entirely possible that the poisoner (if they exist) chose to perform the scum night kill rather than use their power. That way their team mates could use their powers instead. It is also entirely possible that the poison takes a night to set up, similar to a sniper shot.
There are all manner of reasons someone might choose not to use their power, especially if they are scum with the scum kill action in addition to their own action. I find your focus on this question more than a little strange.
If I was fishing I wouldn't have specified that I wasn't looking for you to elaborate. All I was hoping for was what you provided in your last two sentences.
Given we didn't have many reports of negative effects after N1 I find it unlikely that's the case. The idea that it had to be setup is a possibility though. For the record I've already pointed out there's very little we can do regarding Flush's claim but wait. Not sure if you actually saw that before you responded though.
Yeah, all we've been lynching so far have turned out to be townies. At this point, I feel we're running in a circle we need to get out of.
I'm personally still a fan of voting Faddy. But I'll change it up with a vote for Penguin.
Vote: Penguin
I feel like Penguin has been coasting by and has been trying to pry information from others instead of discussing their own theories.
I also don't believe RF in anyway regarding the poison stuff.
Vote: Penguin
I feel like Penguin has been coasting by and has been trying to pry information from others instead of discussing their own theories.
I also don't believe RF in anyway regarding the poison stuff.
As a side note, I want to hear more from Time, Penguin is a good one and o agree with the post that is probably above mine. But something that has been bothering me is what was already been talked about yesterday. Time is coasting on through with these check ins. I feel like not much has evolved from read to read and it seems more to me like he is content hopping from mislynch to mislynch. I'll be honest that I think this because he's been doing a lot of shade throwing at me with no real prying into my behavior. I'm sure I'm next in line for his vote after Faddy who would likely flip town imo.
In my notes I did have a bugging feeling about Time, not someone who I'd put firmly or even super far into the scum camp, but certainly leaning that way. To get it out of the way, can we go ahead and have Verelios vote so we can see the double vote? Unless of course it's meant to be a stealth double vote, would be more interesting that way, leave room for some shenanigans.
It's a gift which presumably means it's also only an x-shot, probably 1. While I do want him to prove it, I also don't want it to go to waste even if we do have no way of knowing if it went to a scum or town player.
Oh, I think we have different interpretations of the double vote. I viewed it as something that just happens as a passive thing, but you seem to think its something they give a command for in game thread assumedly? Could at least find that out.
Double votes are almost always commands. I also doubt someone was able to just hand out an infinite double vote though it could just be today only is double.
Astute observations /s
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
DAY 3 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
Penguin (1)
Flame_AC 1726
acohrs (1)
Natiko 1721
CCS (1)
Sorian 1635
Faddy (1)
Timeaisis 1670
No active vote for Day 3: AbsolutBro, acohrs, Bronx-Man, CCS, Faddy, Fat4all, Fireblend, Lone_Prodigy, Mazre, Nudull, Penguin, Royal_Flush, Verelios, Zippedpinhead
Day 3 Postcount: AbsolutBro 8, acohrs 0, Bronx-Man 10, CCS 6, Faddy 6, Fat4all 2, Fireblend 2, Flame_AC 8, Lone_Prodigy 2, Mazre 3, Natiko 16, Nudull 4, Penguin 3, Royal_Flush 8, Sorian 18, Timeaisis 6, Verelios 9, Zippedpinhead 5
Day 3 ends:
Automated vote tally here
10 votes for majority
Penguin (1)
Flame_AC 1726
acohrs (1)
Natiko 1721
CCS (1)
Sorian 1635
Faddy (1)
Timeaisis 1670
No active vote for Day 3: AbsolutBro, acohrs, Bronx-Man, CCS, Faddy, Fat4all, Fireblend, Lone_Prodigy, Mazre, Nudull, Penguin, Royal_Flush, Verelios, Zippedpinhead
Day 3 Postcount: AbsolutBro 8, acohrs 0, Bronx-Man 10, CCS 6, Faddy 6, Fat4all 2, Fireblend 2, Flame_AC 8, Lone_Prodigy 2, Mazre 3, Natiko 16, Nudull 4, Penguin 3, Royal_Flush 8, Sorian 18, Timeaisis 6, Verelios 9, Zippedpinhead 5
Day 3 ends:
Automated vote tally here
10 votes for majority
Yeah, that was what I meant, a today only passive double.
CCS, if you're around who would you throw a vote down on if you had to. Like if day was gonna end early somehow, where would you put it?
Possibly Mazre. He's been pretty quiet, and something about him when he has posted seems off.
Oddly enough, you're right Flame. All my votes for today are counted as double. I'll put it out for you to see if you're interested
Double:Flame_AC
Hi all, very busy all of yesterday so back in now. Glad to see this dayphase has become claimception for real.
Also,
Vote: Absolutbro
You're still on my list and your response to your night action so far doesn't change how I feel about you
AbsolutBro
Member
Is GAF eating posts? I swear I answered acohrs about my "not having a vote".
So what happens if you don't say double in front? Do you have that choice to stay as a single vote?
Also vote count please.
Also also, is there a reason CCS is softing having to do with this?
I was told to use double so the script can count it, but whether I can also do single votes, I don't know
So are you voting for Flame as a "ha ha, you get punished for asking" or because you believe him to be scummy?
YesNOnoNOYes
Member
DAY 3 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
Flame_AC (2)
Verelios (Double Vote) 1736
Penguin (1)
Flame_AC 1726
AbsolutBro (1)
acohrs 1737
Faddy (1)
Timeaisis 1670
CCS (1)
Sorian 1635
acohrs (1)
Natiko 1721
No active vote for Day 3: AbsolutBro, Bronx-Man, CCS, Faddy, Fat4all, Fireblend, Lone_Prodigy, Mazre, Nudull, Penguin, Royal_Flush, Zippedpinhead
Day 3 Postcount: AbsolutBro 9, acohrs 1, Bronx-Man 10, CCS 7, Faddy 6, Fat4all 2, Fireblend 2, Flame_AC 9, Lone_Prodigy 2, Mazre 3, Natiko 16, Nudull 4, Penguin 3, Royal_Flush 8, Sorian 20, Timeaisis 6, Verelios 11, Zippedpinhead 5
Day 3 ends:
Automated vote tally here
10 votes for majority
Flame_AC (2)
Verelios (Double Vote) 1736
Penguin (1)
Flame_AC 1726
AbsolutBro (1)
acohrs 1737
Faddy (1)
Timeaisis 1670
CCS (1)
Sorian 1635
acohrs (1)
Natiko 1721
No active vote for Day 3: AbsolutBro, Bronx-Man, CCS, Faddy, Fat4all, Fireblend, Lone_Prodigy, Mazre, Nudull, Penguin, Royal_Flush, Zippedpinhead
Day 3 Postcount: AbsolutBro 9, acohrs 1, Bronx-Man 10, CCS 7, Faddy 6, Fat4all 2, Fireblend 2, Flame_AC 9, Lone_Prodigy 2, Mazre 3, Natiko 16, Nudull 4, Penguin 3, Royal_Flush 8, Sorian 20, Timeaisis 6, Verelios 11, Zippedpinhead 5
Day 3 ends:
Automated vote tally here
10 votes for majority
The votes will count double even if you don't use the command. The command is to make it simpler when it's close to the deadline. Also so everyone can check the votes with the automatic tool.
Zippedpinhead
Member
With a lack of a new front runner, I'm going to go back to who I voted for yesterday
vote: Faddy
I still think you are scum, I'm confused with how you played the first two days, and now that you almost got lynched day 2 I think you are trying to just get through the day again.
vote: Faddy
I still think you are scum, I'm confused with how you played the first two days, and now that you almost got lynched day 2 I think you are trying to just get through the day again.
Well, I had to pick someone to exhibit so...not that I lean town on Flame, it was just convenient to pick him with auto correct
Awesome, thanks for the heads up
It felt weird. I realize you could remove you vote anytime and move it back over to a frontrunner. And I trusted you to do that, and so did everyone else. Let's just say if it was anyone but you who pulled something like that I would read it as a suspect move, knowing they might not actually come back at day end to swap if necessary.
At the end of the day, SF was lynched, so it doesn't matter because you switched back. I will give you CCS is starting to look way more suspect today with the pseudo-soft claim. So you may be on to something there. [/quote]
True, so it's effectively the only way they can survive, by announcing they were poisoned. But the circumstances surrounding it, being annoucning Fat4All as a target yesterday only to now being poisoned after using the lightning rod ability is a very strange chain of events.
Oh, and RE: me keeping my vote at Faddy. I admit, it's the same logic I used yesterday and it hasn't changed much. There hasn't been someone super suspect this phase. If I had to pick someone else, I'd consider AB, Flush, CCS and Sorian. But that's super scattershot, as mentioned before. I still think Faddy is the best bet for today.
I'd vote RF if it weren't for the fact we will figure out if he's lying tomorrow.
Just an observation, but we seem to be consistently voting the same way the entire game. Or we're just both latching on to the easy targets. Which is fine, I suppose.