How big was the performance jump? I also have a 980ti with a 3440x1440 arriving today
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti launch/review day - 2017/03/09
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How big was the performance jump? I also have a 980ti with a 3440x1440 arriving today
icecold1983
Member
any of you guys undervolting? seems nvidia boost 3.0 is very generous with voltage. many pascals can do 1.9 to 2ghz with voltages under .95
The actual performance difference between 2025 and 1987 is absolutely minimal. Just don't care about it and enjoy the card.
jim2point0
Banned
Hovering around 2000 mhz seems very normal for these cards (+\- 50mhz). I'd be happy with anything around there. It means you can buy one of these cards purely for noise levels and aesthetics.
I really want a FTW3 but there are none on Amazon
I really want a FTW3 but there are none on Amazon
Damn, very tempting...
therealminime
Member
Picked up the MSI Gaming X and love it. I had the 1080 FTW which was a totally good card but for 3440x1440 the 1080 TI seems to be, finally, the card for this resolution. Everything runs like a dream with basically no compromises. Witcher 3 is up at 90fps at ultra, it's just glorious.
manfestival
Member
Should I stick with getting a 1070 if I only care and intend to stick with 1080p gaming?
Hellshingu
Member
I'd be interested to see if yours has coil whine. The reports of coil whine on the STRIX have been much more than any other of the TIs.
Sure, In fact the 1060 does a brilliant job at 1080p 60fps.
The Dude
Member
I'm still tempted to try one for how many really want and like this card aside from the coil whine
Also, I come in and my ftw3 is idling like 54 degrees. And it was idling prior around 34.
Honestly I'm about sick of the 1080 Tis already, Im Into Pc gaming and won't ever stop but man every day its sort of something different and I'm just not feeling that. Not that idling is a major deal but up til this point it was idling at like 34 or so.
All my recent cards, 1080, 980 ti, 980, 780 ti etc... We're joys, toss them in and everything were great.. But man I'm getting bugged here
I'm into this stuff but I'm not like into daily problem solving.
Pagusas
Elden Member
Does the FTW3 have auto fan stop? Most of the TI's do and will idle in the 50's as the fans stay off until the temp rises above 60.
I haven't heard anything yet but I've only toyed with it for 3 hours. I'll report if I hear any!
The Dude
Member
It could be, I'll have to check. It's just I didn't change anything since initial install and after checking throughout the day yesterday it was idling in low 30s so that's why I'm just not sure. But yea it could be a fan stop
But see on the subject of being different, was just gaming in prey a bit and the card got to about 72 73 degrees. That seems way to hot for what I'm paying for when the Aorus at least temp wise stayed mid 50s and barely hit 60 at full fan speed which I barely heard.
I wish evga went 2.5 slot with this card
Hellshingu
Member
That's weird. I only messed with my FTW3 for a few hours as the fans were just too damn loud. The Zotac is definitely staying in my case as the STRIX has some coil whine and I'd rather not have it even I won't hear it during normal gameplay much.
The Dude
Member
How is zotac overall as a company, support etc? I actually haven't ever dealt with them so I'm sort of in the dark.
And yea the fans are definitely loud, the thing is the Aorus for instance... It was more the sound of air moving forcefully as opposed to fans making like a higher pitched sound like the ftw3, and I'm not generally bugged by fan noise but it is a bit much and the thing is the card is getting hotter than the Aorus.
Unless prey is just going to do that, Andromeda seemed to level off.
The performance is decent in prey do far, but it was just ok in Andromeda. Overall I'm not blown away by it, I was more impressed with the Temps of the Aorus and fan noise.
The real change with Pascal is higher rated boost clocks combined with GPU Boost 3.0 and Nvidia's voltage control pretty much equalize all cards. We have lost anywhere from 4-8% (rated boost to OC % increase) from Maxwell. Even more if you look at the top 10% of Maxwell cards. Kepler was the peak for overclocking. A 780 Ti would boost to about 1050Mhz and on water with a custom bios OC to about 1350Mhz. (+22%). Maxwell is about +13% and Pascal is a meager 7%.
This is both a blessing, everyone gets 99% peak performance, and a curse, all cards are the same.
This is both a blessing, everyone gets 99% peak performance, and a curse, all cards are the same.
I haven't tested my Aoruses in SLI, but last night I had a chance to put one of the units in my rig, and I concur that noise wise, it is very silent.
I have custom fan curve which will dial the fans to 100% once it reached 60 deg C, and I find it difficult to distinguish between the noise from my case fans (there are 7 of them) and the Aorus', unless I have my ear right next to card.
Although admittedly, the case fans I have are the NB-eLoops 140s, and not those noisy Corsair ones
I have custom fan curve which will dial the fans to 100% once it reached 60 deg C, and I find it difficult to distinguish between the noise from my case fans (there are 7 of them) and the Aorus', unless I have my ear right next to card.
Although admittedly, the case fans I have are the NB-eLoops 140s, and not those noisy Corsair ones
I thought the deal with the FTW3 is that they are doing more VRM cooling, so that is reflected in the core temp due to shared heatsink. Regardless, if the performance is there, who cared if it's 60 degrees, 70 degrees? It doesn't matter.
People should worry about performance and noise. Anything else is looking for problems that aren't there.
The Dude
Member
As I stated the fans are louder than I expected and I'm not typically bothered by fans much, but I've experienced now both aorus and the evga fans and aorus wins in that category. The performance is there but still I personally like seeing cooler achievable Temps on air, seeing that the Aorus I had was staying mid 50s was impressive.
60 degrees is find, when this is pushing its way close to 75 when it's not even hot out yet bugs me. I'd rather have one of these newer cards at 50 to 60 and come summer maybe get close to 70 as opposed to already pushing past 71 and 72 when it's cool.
My house has central air but that room just gets hot, I typically run a window unit also just because I like to be freezing cold but I need a new one.
Either way right now it's mainly noise and then Temps, not where I want for a brand new card of this caliber. If I can spend the same amount of cash and end up with a quieter and cooler card I want it, so I'll see.
Can someone tell me will an Asus Strix 1080 Ti fit in my case?
This is what I have....
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139024
This is the card:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XXZBPHZ/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I've heard stories of the 1080Ti, particularly the ones from Asus and EVGA being humungous, so I just wanna make sure it'll fit. I currently have an EVGA 980ti in there.
This is what I have....
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139024
This is the card:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XXZBPHZ/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I've heard stories of the 1080Ti, particularly the ones from Asus and EVGA being humungous, so I just wanna make sure it'll fit. I currently have an EVGA 980ti in there.
holygeesus
Banned
The aftermarket cards are already coming in at ~£600 now, which might be enough to pull me back into PC gaming. Hmmmm.
Pagusas
Elden Member
Lol that case is insanely large, it'll fit.
Celcius
°Temp. member
Would you say your FTW3 is still quieter than the founder's edition though?
Given the temps and noise you've seen, would you say it's worth the premium over the Founder's Edition?
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
Still wondering which of the Custom cards is most likely to be the bestest (money be damned).
Anyone got any thoughts on that?
Anyone got any thoughts on that?
jim2point0
Banned
Huh. Granted there aren't many reviews out yet but I watched the JayzTwoCents review and it seemed to be one of the cooler 1080TIs out there. He had it running a benchmark for 45 minutes and it was hovering around 57-58 (though that was in an open air test bench).
So I was looking to get one just because I figured it'd be quiet and cool. Not that it matters since you can't buy one right now....
The Dude
Member
I haven't personally heard the FE but knowing how those cards typically are and if I had to guess I'd say they're still louder than the ftw3 easily. But as for worth, nah I'd say stick with a 750 priced card, I'm an evga guy but you're not gaining much here with this card.
Well it's pretty warm in my machine, not sure why but it is. It didn't get to those levels again last night so not sure what that was about but it's definitely not quiet, that's for sure.
runningjoke
Member
Mine does, can't notice at 60 fps but at 200+ oh boy
jim2point0
Banned
Oy. Well I'm seeing a lot more reports of people with FTW3s running hotter than the other cards. Not sure what's up with that.
So now I'm back to trying to decide between the Aorus and the ROG Strix. Damns shame because I figured the EVGA would look the best in my case... albeit with a rather ostentatious font size
So now I'm back to trying to decide between the Aorus and the ROG Strix. Damns shame because I figured the EVGA would look the best in my case... albeit with a rather ostentatious font size
manfestival
Member
I have a 970. That would be more of a lateral step I thought?
It should. Your HDD drives are stacked lower than mine. Mine are one stack but go into the ODD slots almost. The Strix is megamassivegiant and barely fits into my case. Was a challenge to get it in! It fits but a plastic part is touching one of my ODD bays, which is thankfully helping to hold it up and prevent the card from sagging. I'll locate my case in my history and edit.
Edit: can't link it on mobile but the case is N82E16811112239 on Newegg.
Any of the Hybrid cards. GPU boost 3.0 which controls your clocks, is primarily affected by core temperature. The lower the temperature the more consistent the clocks will be and the higher average FPS you will get. Now the peak clock as in the highest clock you will hit will likely not be much higher but the average clock over time will be marginally higher than air cooled variants. We are only talking less than 10% fps gain here.
The Dude
Member
Oy. Well I'm seeing a lot more reports of people with FTW3s running hotter than the other cards. Not sure what's up with that.
So now I'm back to trying to decide between the Aorus and the ROG Strix. Damns shame because I figured the EVGA would look the best in my case... albeit with a rather ostentatious font size
Really, more reports of hotter cards? I haven't looked around much yet but that's a shame if so.
Like I said honestly the transition to 1080 ti for me, has not been totally awesome like previous gpus.
If the ftw3 doesn't pan I'm just debating which one to try after, most strix reviews seem really solid, same with zotac and msi. But just not sure.
Pagusas
Elden Member
I think one thing we need to establish is "what is hot" for these cards.
Yes it sounds like FTW3's are running hotter than other after market cards, but they also have physically less heatsink surface area and smaller fans than most other after market 2.5 slot cards.
80's are hot, throttling is at 83. I think mid 70's are expect. My overclock +100 voltage Gaming-X hits 73 on loooonnnngggg gaming runs at 60-65% fan, but its also trapped in an ITX Case. at 100% fan it would stay in low 60's, but I like a silent running PC (and at 60% its fans are dead silent)
I'd still likely return your FTW3, I just want to make sure no one considers 60's to be average temps for a benchmarking 1080ti's with regular fan curves.
Yes it sounds like FTW3's are running hotter than other after market cards, but they also have physically less heatsink surface area and smaller fans than most other after market 2.5 slot cards.
80's are hot, throttling is at 83. I think mid 70's are expect. My overclock +100 voltage Gaming-X hits 73 on loooonnnngggg gaming runs at 60-65% fan, but its also trapped in an ITX Case. at 100% fan it would stay in low 60's, but I like a silent running PC (and at 60% its fans are dead silent)
I'd still likely return your FTW3, I just want to make sure no one considers 60's to be average temps for a benchmarking 1080ti's with regular fan curves.
MSI Sea Hawk X or EVGA Hybrid probably?
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
LiLSnorpSnorp
Member
FTW3 arrives today. What's the best way to check the temperature and stuff?
Is the 970 not cutting it these days? Surely you can still do 1080p 60 with most modern titles with some settings tweaks?
Pagusas
Elden Member
Considering I could still do 1080/60 with a 770gtx in most titles with tweeking, I cant imagine a 970 not being good enough right now. Granted some titles like Hitman had to settle for 1080/30, but that was the exception not the rule.
Hazardous Metal
Member
When will the next line of nVidia cards come out? I want to upgrade my 980ti, but if there is a release immenent then I'll just wait.
PlayALLtheGames
Banned
It's not imminent. Not even close.
But you are in a tricky situation if you're intent on upgrading but want to maximize value. If you go for just a cheap 1080 with the expectation of getting a Volta card, you're not upgrading that much from a 980Ti.
If you go for a 1080Ti, you're spending $700 now and then potentially another $700 around end of year/beginning of 2018. Of course you could sell your Ti when the new cards come out and recoup some of that.
Hellshingu
Member
They seem fine. Not any worse than Asus and the like.
When I am playing prey at 144fps my card is very quiet with maxed settings and a custom fan curve of 60% at 60c. I just think the FTW3 is going to be loud no matter what because of its 2 slot design as opposed to 2.5/3.
With how long AMD is taking to respond and how it will probably be underwhelming I'd say you are safe for quite a while.
Yeah I play on a 144hz monitor and I will always lower some graphical settings to get maximum fps and that card sure does get going.
Hazardous Metal
Member
Duly noted. There's no rush for me so I'll just wait until next year.
michaelius
Banned
At current prices 1080 seems better choice if you don't mind paying bit more. There's no such thing as gpu fast enough.
Hazardous Metal
Member
I was talking about going from the 980ti to the 1080ti, for the record. Still seems it's a good idea to wait though.
The Dude
Member
Eh it depends, I'm the type where I say if you're even contemplating it then go for it and have fun with the card. By the time whatever is out next there will be a reason to "wait" once again for the next thing, just dive in and enjoy the power. A 1080 to ti isn't a massive jump but a 980 ti to 1080 ti I personally feel is. However the bump I made from 1080 to 1080 ti feels pretty big so far in how 4k runs, so yea a leap from a 980 ti would be pretty decent. I say why wait, enjoy some of the best gaming you can achieve right now.