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Does listening to rap make you a misogynist?

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Ran rp

Member
Net_Wrecker said:
Does voting for Trump make you a racist? Maybe not, but you sure aren't helping the cause.


Most rap isn't good for society tbh. That's why whenever I feel like I need to hear some wholesome flows and beats, I put on some Logic or Eminem. Chance The Rapper is a good choice as well. Beyond that maybe some Will Smith, cause these parents just don't understand, forreal.
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Hi Miley.
 
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anaslexy

Member
My understand is that words like bitch and hoe refer to specific women who are after rappers money and would do anything for it.
 
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GalacticToast

Member
Net_Wrecker said:
Does voting for Trump make you a racist? Maybe not, but you sure aren't helping the cause.


Most rap isn't good for society tbh. That's why whenever I feel like I need to hear some wholesome flows and beats, I put on some Logic or Eminem. Chance The Rapper is a good choice as well. Beyond that maybe some Will Smith, cause these parents just don't understand, forreal.
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"This is why I say that hip-hop has done more damage to young African-Americans in recent years..."
 
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Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
Why did you jump from "literally one person on the internet said they didn't like a Kendrick lyric and some girl called me a misogynist" to "does listening to Kendrick make you a misogynist"?
 
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Griffins22

Member
Net_Wrecker said:
Does voting for Trump make you a racist? Maybe not, but you sure aren't helping the cause.


Most rap isn't good for society tbh. That's why whenever I feel like I need to hear some wholesome flows and beats, I put on some Logic or Eminem. Chance The Rapper is a good choice as well. Beyond that maybe some Will Smith, cause these parents just don't understand, forreal.
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Poor GRIMES

Banned
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Angelus Errare

Banned
Net_Wrecker said:
Does voting for Trump make you a racist? Maybe not, but you sure aren't helping the cause.


Most rap isn't good for society tbh. That's why whenever I feel like I need to hear some wholesome flows and beats, I put on some Logic or Eminem. Chance The Rapper is a good choice as well. Beyond that maybe some Will Smith, cause these parents just don't understand, forreal.
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I can't tell if...

Ah good ol Eminem, the guy who likes talking about raping his mom and ex girlfriend as well as killing them. Qwhite wholesome.
 
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Imperial Bishop

Banned
Net_Wrecker said:
Does voting for Trump make you a racist? Maybe not, but you sure aren't helping the cause.


Most rap isn't good for society tbh. That's why whenever I feel like I need to hear some wholesome flows and beats, I put on some Logic or Eminem. Chance The Rapper is a good choice as well. Beyond that maybe some Will Smith, cause these parents just don't understand, forreal.
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"Wholesome flows and beats"

Whut?
 
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watershed

Banned
No but having an awareness for the language and ideas embedded in the music you enjoy is important. It's easy for me to understand how rap music can be offensive or offputting, and some of it is to me as well, but I still like many rap artists possibly in spite of the things I dislike in the lyrics.
 
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ethanny2

Member
Stumpokapow said:
Why did you jump from "literally one person on the internet said they didn't like a Kendrick lyric and some girl called me a misogynist" to "does listening to Kendrick make you a misogynist"?
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Well its not just one person, there are some more news articles on it on the internet. And and I just used that as an example. He's trying to do something to ameliorate the problem of "sexism" in rap lyrics, but he also participates in it himself (bitch be humble etc..,). Not just Kendrick, specifically I'm talking about "trap" artists like Migos, Future, Travis scott etc...
 
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PaulloDEC

Member
I guess it's kinda like enjoying movies or games or whatever that star antiheroes of one kind or another. You can acknowledge that these people are nasty/evil/gross and not subscribe to their way of thinking/acting while still enjoying watching them do their thing.

I think it only becomes an issue if you find yourself agreeing with those kinds of characters.
 
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Fades

Banned
Rap doesn't exist in a vacuum; there are other genres, like the aforementioned rap and country, that are just as misogynistic on a regular basis as rap is, if not more. Listening to rap, even the "bad" rap, does not make you misogynistic in itself, as media can be consumed while also acknowledging the problematic aspects of it, but espousing the negative aspects yourself WOULD make you a misogynist.
 
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hey_monkey

Banned
MHWilliams said:
No, but that also doesn't prevent you from acknowledging that rap can have misogynistic lyrics.

It's okay to watch media and realize it has issues. I love James Bond, but depending on what I'm watching, it can be very sexist or racist.
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This. I mean, find me some media that isn't troubling in some aspect, be it an all white/all male writers room, reinforcement of shitty themes, pandering, tropes, stereotypes, etc. Even the best examples usually have a fox in the henhouse somewhere, because that's media.

Be aware, be considerate, be educated, make good choices.
 
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torre_avenue

Banned
I used to be a nice suburban white boy, but ever since I started listening to Future and Migos, I've been selling dope, sipping lean, and starting trying to get a broad from Atlanta.

Damn this demonic rap music!
 
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Staccat0

Fail out bailed
I mean...the Kendrick example in the OP is really bad but...

Mysogony is so hard coded into a patriarchal society you have to rationalize to pretend it takes no effort on our part to steer out of it.

Popular rap music (which I love) has a troubling preponderance of casual and glorified myogony. Does enjoying art which glorifies the systemic oppression of someone else not come with any moral consequences? Is an audience just totally off the hook to not say anything in response? Would we cut the same slack to comics, movies, or any other form of art coming out in 2017? Nope.
 
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Unbounded

Member
Only as much as eating Chik-fil-A makes you a homophobe or eating at an unspecified pizza parlor makes you a child rapist.
 
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psyfi

Banned
Nah, pretty much any feminist can tell you that part of being feminist is loving music / TV / film / etc despite whatever problematic shit it inevitably has.
 
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hey_monkey

Banned
Fat4all said:
no

but it means you have a massive penis
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wait but i'm a woman D:

my husband is gonna be so surprised

psyfi said:
Nah, pretty much any feminist can tell you that part of being feminist is loving music / TV / film / etc despite whatever problematic shit it inevitably has.
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YEP because you can't escape that shit, so you just gotta make choices and accept that #yourfaveisproblematic.
 
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Warm Machine

Member
The line of thought is stupid. You can listen to a pice of music and enjoy it for its silly over the top qualities and not take it seriously. Just like watching Human Centipede doesn't mean that you want to be in a Human Centipede.
 
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CarpeDeezNutz

Member
I am a turntablist/DJ and rap has always been my mistress, house is my wife, but the first time I saw the title "Get Off My Dick And Tell Yo Bitch To Come Here" did not know how to take it in.
 
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shintoki

sparkle this bitch
No. You can enjoy porn, booze, rap, rock, movies, and more.

But it's also something where if someone called it out. It's not like they aren't wrong. You can acknowledge it too.

Heard "I Got A Man" for the first time in over 10 years a few months back and my first thought was, this entire song is about sexual harassment.
 
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travisbickle

Member
It depends on how the individual perceives it. Like right now there are people who take the word of rappers, comedians, even online trolls as truth.

I think if you are impressionable you can take the mysoginistic lines as a truth, but most see them as exaggerations and personas.
 
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