TheBlackMarvel
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Storm King is optional.
Nobody said she was hard, just that the non-optional bosses you had to fight before her were easier.
Wasn't meant to be a comprehensive list.
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Games where the final boss isn't the hardest mandatory boss
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Storm King is optional.
Nobody said she was hard, just that the non-optional bosses you had to fight before her were easier.
Wasn't meant to be a comprehensive list.
SliceSabre
Banned
Chrono Cross: Garai.
At the point in the game you fight him you really don't have very many options in regards to the party members you have available two of which are black innate and Garai is white. So you have a tradeoff of being able to do more damage to him but he can also do more damage to those party members.
Biggest thing with Garai is that he hits like a fucking tank and is prone to multihit regular attacks making things that much worse. But his coup de grace is his attack Willbreaker is practically guaranteed to instantly kill your black innate party members or your defensively weaker ones. Hell even your strong party member will be critical after taking the attack.
At the point in the game you fight him you really don't have very many options in regards to the party members you have available two of which are black innate and Garai is white. So you have a tradeoff of being able to do more damage to him but he can also do more damage to those party members.
Biggest thing with Garai is that he hits like a fucking tank and is prone to multihit regular attacks making things that much worse. But his coup de grace is his attack Willbreaker is practically guaranteed to instantly kill your black innate party members or your defensively weaker ones. Hell even your strong party member will be critical after taking the attack.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
Alma in ninja gaiden. This difficuilty spike made no dang sense.
yes yes yes! i fought her forty times!
Transformers Devastation: Megatron was easier than Devastator+Menasor.
^This and her awakened form.Alma in ninja gaiden. This difficuilty spike made no dang sense.
The One Who Knocks
Member
Lost Odyssey is an example that immediately comes to mind. Bogimory (above) is one of the first bosses in the game. It's been a long time so the specifics are slightly hazy, but the developers 'widely' decided that this boss would have the ability to paralyse your entire party in an area of effect attack, and if you miss an item (which is quite easily missable) granting immunity to paralysis, you're doomed. There are also a number of bosses later and earlier in the game which are very tough, much tougher than the final boss who isn't very challenging, but this is the toughest I feel.
Ninja Gaiden has Alma as previously mentioned, who is definitely one of, if not the, toughest bosses in the game.
Ninja Gaiden 2 A very large percentage of the boss fights are tougher than the final boss in the game, especially on Master Ninja difficulty when the bosses become particularly brutal. Dagra Dai, Drunken Bone Dino Skeleton, Elizabeth, and Genshin's first appearance are all considerably challenging boss fights which far exceed the final boss.
Kingdom Hearts in one of the final worlds, you fight
____Riku____
I'd imagine a lot of RPGs and character-action games fall into this category, but it's tough to think of some off-hand.
Rellik
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Jimnymebob
Member
I destroyed Fire Leo when I played through that originally.
The helicopter on stage 1 and the Gran Bruce fight before I learned about the slow mo zoom red hot 100 were the ones that gave me trouble.
Either way, the final boss was rather easy compared to the other bosses.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
VIEWTIFUL JOE had the best bosses. why is that series dead?
tkscz
Member
Then you've never taken on King Blue/Captain Blue in V-rated mode. Holy shit that took me 10 tries to beat him while Fire Leo was one and done.
But Breath of the Wild's last boss was so damned easy.
Sales/Clover Studios left Capcom and became Platinum Studios.
KittenMaster
Member
I remember Phantasy Star 4 being particularly guilty of this, not just the final boss but some of the bosses leading up to it, because bosses toward the end eventually started getting a spell/ability in their move lists (I forget what it was) that is supposed to be beneficial to the boss but was also a free turn of not taking damage which helped you heal back up.
Dragon Quest 3 does the whole "there was a REAL final boss behind the plot of what was the main villain until then", but ironically the secondary villain was the hardest boss in the game, especially since the last set of bosses are after you get the Sage's Stone in your inventory (heals your whole party for a significant amount of recovery for no MP cost).
DS3's Storm King is optional. The final boss is tied for one of the hardest among just the mandatory bosses, at least IMO.
Dragon Quest 3 does the whole "there was a REAL final boss behind the plot of what was the main villain until then", but ironically the secondary villain was the hardest boss in the game, especially since the last set of bosses are after you get the Sage's Stone in your inventory (heals your whole party for a significant amount of recovery for no MP cost).
DS3's Storm King is optional. The final boss is tied for one of the hardest among just the mandatory bosses, at least IMO.
supermarioworldE
Banned
Man, that Metal Sonic race was way harder than any Eggman fight in Sonic CD.
Jimnymebob
Member
Oh god, that's probably the perfect non-RPG example.
Imp the Dimp
Member
Last boss is rarely the hardest mandatory fight tbh
Rayven_king
Member
Credo in devil may cry 4
Why do you think this is though? Why are games designed so that the hardest boss comes before the end?
Is it that your skills are not as honed when you come across earlier bosses, and that makes them harder?
Are they designed that way on purpose, as a way as making the player feel like a badass?
Is it down to poor balancing?
Considering how few people beat games these days, why add the hardest part before the end?
Unless it's like those Mega Man games that make the final boss have three phases with no checkpoints while everything else has only one...
sublimit
Banned
Yup came to say this lol
harriet the spy
Member
I never understood who the final boss was and why was he ridiculously easy. Like I genuinely thought there was a glitch.
Was there a point to this? I mean it's clearly not intended as FFVII final final fight (omnislash)
The last four bosses in Nioh are easy, though. Of the four
Nobunaga
Borgan in LUNAR: Eternal Blue for the Mega/SegaCD
Insanely difficult.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibxQZW-CZ5k
Insanely difficult.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibxQZW-CZ5k
Final Aeon is the final boss fight, Yu Yevon is just a bonus to wrap up the story
that cutscene for
Riku
mrmickfran
Member
Final Fantasy X - Seymour Flux
Dark Souls 3 - Pontiff Sulyvahn
Kid Icarus Uprising - Great Scared Treasure
Xenoblade Chronicles - YOU WILL PAY FOR YOUR INSOLENCE
Dark Souls 3 - Pontiff Sulyvahn
Kid Icarus Uprising - Great Scared Treasure
Xenoblade Chronicles - YOU WILL PAY FOR YOUR INSOLENCE
Just V-Rated? Bruh, King Blue on Ultra V-Rated was MADNESS
Deadpool_X
Banned
The final boss in Ninja Gaiden on Xbox is significantly easier than several of the bosses leading up to him, including a dinosaur skeleton.
Every Trails game?
To be fair, I would argue that Berseria's final boss is the hardest mandatory fight in that game. It is actually one of the few examples I can thing of, actually...
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Lost Odyssey
Hardest boss is... the very first boss
Hardest boss is... the very first boss
Transistor
Banned
Lost Odyssey fits this perfect.
Beaten by seconds
Lost Odyssey
Hardest boss is... the very first boss
Beaten by seconds
He said Trails, not Tales
That said, I beat the main arc of Tales of Graces f last night and the end boss was the hardest boss in the game
Much easier. I'm far from amazing at games, and I beat him without taking a single hit.
Red Arremer
Member
This is Spikey Tiger from Secret of Mana, the third boss you fight. He is one of the single hardest bosses in the game for several reasons.
He is the last boss you fight before getting access to magic. He however has powerful spells. And while the bosses prior to him have spells too, they are not particularly strong.
He also has an arena that allows him to go to spots where you cannot hit him (where magic would help tremendously!!), and has an attack that has him curl into a ball and roll all over the arena.
He also deals massive damage with his attacks.
And then there's this asshole:
This guy has an AoE attack that paralyzes and also deals a lot of damage (plus poison, yay!). This is Lufia 2 btw.
Final boss in Sexy Parodius.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OffVA4X9fEw [NSFW]
The final boss in other Parodius games are a cakewalk too, IIRC they don't even attack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OffVA4X9fEw [NSFW]
The final boss in other Parodius games are a cakewalk too, IIRC they don't even attack.
Red Arremer
Member
To be fair, I don't think that intentionally weak final bosses really should count. Both Gradius and Parodius are pretty much infamous for having absolutely pathetic final bosses that don't attack at all or barely do, and where the stage leading up to them is always a lot harder.
mrmickfran
Member
FUCK THE GREAT SENSEI
icecreamsnow
Member
Shadow Yukiko in P4. No wonder they completely nerfed the encounter in P4G.
SlipperyFishes
Banned
Any Final Fantasy game post VI has had really overpowered optional bosses.
Kain-Nosgoth
Member
when i think about it.... The thread should really be "games where the final boss is the hardest mandatory boss"
there's LOTS of games when the final boss is a let down and a too easy
there's LOTS of games when the final boss is a let down and a too easy