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Ok GAF lets battle it out. Which franchise is better F-Zero or Wipeout
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Should be on virtual console, so that's something to look forward to!
Doomshroom
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Fzero
miller.skippins
Banned
burnout Revenge says hi.
pretty done
Member
Should be an HD port with online play....
F-Zero deserves a better owner than Nintendo.
imagine facing a father and say:"your son deserves a better owner than you"
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
The sense of speed in F-Zero isn't really dangerous. Its like me going 200mph in NFS, a stark difference if I went 200 mph around a track in GT.
Wipeout isn't a simulator but it takes into account inertia. You can't twitch you're way around a track at high speeds, you need to take a racing line and there's even a suspension like mechanic. Just take a look at how wide the tracks are generally in F Zero compared to Wipeout and you'll understand why so so few can play at the highest speeds despite such speeds not being close F-Zero.
To put it simply, its harder to go fast in Wipeout.
Sorry about that, i was on mobile while doing this thread, since i never had the intention to favour F-zero by showing off that sweet gif. In my eyes the contest is much closer than on first sight since both games are stellar.
Can someone provide us with some zone wipeout gifs in order to include them in the OP?
thomasmahler
Member
FZero.
Comparing FZero to Wipeout is like comparing Super Mario to Rayman. Both are quality titles, but one is clearly way better.
Comparing FZero to Wipeout is like comparing Super Mario to Rayman. Both are quality titles, but one is clearly way better.
Amen, that beeing said Wipeout is amazing too and there is enough space for both.
imagine facing a father and say:"your son deserves a better owner than you"
Perhaps he likes the way Wipeouts "father" was handled better^^
Sidewinder
Member
WipEout.
But I didn't play F-Zero GX a lot, so what do I know.
I don't get the "floaty controls" criticism, this is what makes WipEout unique and so fing good imho.
But I didn't play F-Zero GX a lot, so what do I know.
I don't get the "floaty controls" criticism, this is what makes WipEout unique and so fing good imho.
Magicpaint
Member
Yep.
That game alone elevates F-Zero for me over Wipeout. I really, REALLY want to love Wipeout but no matter how many times I try, I just can't get into it the way I can F-Zero. I just need GX in HD and with Online play. I'm still so mad GX didn't sell well and effectively buried the franchise. :\ I envy Wipeout fans as they get games on every Playstation platform.
anothertech
Member
They are both so good, but Wipeout wins for me because it's still supported.
Nintendo dropped that ball.
Nintendo dropped that ball.
Patrick Bateman
Member
F-Zero
The SNES-version might be one of the oldest games I still like to get back to even after all these years.
I never could get into WipeOut because of the controls. They always felt "wobbly".
The SNES-version might be one of the oldest games I still like to get back to even after all these years.
I never could get into WipeOut because of the controls. They always felt "wobbly".
ResidentDante
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I think it's a difficult one to choose. Personally the three wipEout games on the PS1 are the best anti-gravity racing games made.
However wipEout probably would not have existed without F-Zero being there first on the SNES. The F-Zero series is more pure racing focused, while wipEout also engages with combat, thus make some of the races a little random it makes the races more thrilling.
F-Zero's latest main installment GX completely trashes wipEout Fusion's shitshow though. The wipEout franchise has returned fairly strong though with the PSP games, and HD/Fury following them. But it never goes back to how good the first three games were, the modern design, the music, the tight controls and extremely good anti-gravity feeling and the way you slide into corners. Just amazing.
However wipEout probably would not have existed without F-Zero being there first on the SNES. The F-Zero series is more pure racing focused, while wipEout also engages with combat, thus make some of the races a little random it makes the races more thrilling.
F-Zero's latest main installment GX completely trashes wipEout Fusion's shitshow though. The wipEout franchise has returned fairly strong though with the PSP games, and HD/Fury following them. But it never goes back to how good the first three games were, the modern design, the music, the tight controls and extremely good anti-gravity feeling and the way you slide into corners. Just amazing.
A couple of days ago I got a PS4 (basically just for Final Fantasy...), but I ended up also buying the PS2 Classic Star Ocean 3. It looks incredible, because the emulator outputs in HD.
I'm really hoping that's what Nintendo do with the GCN virtual console. Then you'd have F-Zero GX in HD (and I'd have some Paper Mario!).
gingerbeardman
Member
Wipeout due the fact that there have been more of them.
F-Zero is unloved and undernourished in comparison.
I love them both though.
F-Zero is unloved and undernourished in comparison.
I love them both though.
ZombiePlatypus
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Is the Wipeout gif used in the OP indicative of how it generally looks? Cause holy shit that's a sweet ass aesthetic. If it really looks so stylized most of time, then Wipeout hands down, no contest.
Also, why is FastRMX not a part of this battle??
Also, why is FastRMX not a part of this battle??
Look at his avatar GAF. Don't believe his lies.
foolishoptimist
Member
It's amusing to see people criticizing the game based on how it punishes their lack of skill.
Maybe they need to add a Blue Shell so they can still win.
FutureLarking
Member
Well WipeOut has a franchise that's actually somewhat alive and releasing games.
On the otherhand, none of those games come close to GX.
As a racer, it's extremely shallow. For an indie downloadable title made by a small handful of people, it's a great achievement. But it can't stand up to either game.
On the otherhand, none of those games come close to GX.
As a racer, it's extremely shallow. For an indie downloadable title made by a small handful of people, it's a great achievement. But it can't stand up to either game.
this one?
it's from Zone mode in WipEout HD → https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN4m_IBVdH8
edit: btw, found video from that gif – https://youtu.be/OVtYjbtuhXc?t=168
seems the contrary to me, FZero because it is nintendo and nintendo know how to make gameplay an others don't (despite being sega the ones behind GX)
i disagree, regarding snes game. I never liked the n64 one.
Snes game was really technic and unrivaled at the time because it used mode 7 very cleverly, something unseen for racers, that were for the most part hang-on lilke clones.
ZombiePlatypus
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this one?
it's from Zone mode in WipEout HD → https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN4m_IBVdH8
edit: btw, found video from that gif https://youtu.be/OVtYjbtuhXc?t=168
Yeah!
Looks so good. Honestly wanna pick up tnt game now.
AbandonedTrolley
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The franchise that still has releases WipEout it is!
WipEout it is!kqedequalsvolvo
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Incredibly tough as F-Zero has potentially my favourite soundtrack ever and is a load of fun...but Wipeout is probably the game that was most important to me.
That PS1 era with Wipeout at the forefront was the first time in my life (I was maybe 9 when it first came out?) where gaming felt legitimately 'cool' in the UK - with all the marketing that came with it, the futuristic designs of the ship brands, all the artists involved with the soundtrack etc. So it had a massive impact on me growing up.
Love both but because of that, Wipeout edges it.
That PS1 era with Wipeout at the forefront was the first time in my life (I was maybe 9 when it first came out?) where gaming felt legitimately 'cool' in the UK - with all the marketing that came with it, the futuristic designs of the ship brands, all the artists involved with the soundtrack etc. So it had a massive impact on me growing up.
Love both but because of that, Wipeout edges it.
professor denim
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F-Zero.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Love both, but F-Zero wins.
marvelharvey
Member
F-f***ing-Zero
The Wipeout series has always felt soulless/designed by committee to me.
The Wipeout series has always felt soulless/designed by committee to me.
Salty Hippo
Member
This. It's like people who say Driveclub is better than Forza Horizon.
Wipeout vs. Extreme-G is a much closer fight.
Its a mix between minimalism and clutter. The art and OST is what really makes Wipeout stand out from the others in the genre.
yep.
related to this, there's a nice article on Metanet Software blog → http://www.metanetsoftware.com/2016/the-designers-republic-vs-idea-magazine-2002
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→ https://www.flickr.com/photos/dingridsystem/albums/72157630939112282
Wipeout easily, the designs, tracks, music are all much better than F-Zero.
I can understand people preferring the gameplay of one over the other since despite both being anti grav arcade racers they dont really play the same.
However neither of them can mess with the real king:
I can understand people preferring the gameplay of one over the other since despite both being anti grav arcade racers they dont really play the same.
However neither of them can mess with the real king:
Com Truise
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Extreme-G gave F-Zero X a run for its money, so that comment sounds significantly less disparaging than you probably intended to lol.
This is really more of a F-Zero GX vs. Wipeout thread, because lets be honest, it's the only truly awesome game in the franchise.
ScaryShark
Banned
GX is a fantastic game but Wipeout Pure is one of my most played games ever and one of the very best portable racers ever made. Wipeout has a big feather in its cap for releasing a game in the past decade and with the remaster collection actually still being somewhat relevant.
Jo Shishido's Cheeks
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The threads that are perfect for polls never get one
UnluckyKate
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Much better than WipEout Fusion indeed. (played the two games back to back)
Very good game.
So, if someone has a different opinion is wrong. Is this how internet works, isn't it?
kqedequalsvolvo
Member
I think that's what so many people (including me) like about it, ironically. It's got that weird sterile, hyper-future, mega-corporation-clean aesthetic. It pairs with the pumping electronic sound track so, so well. That's not me arguing, different people like different stuff, just find it interesting
.Wipeout's branding looks like it was designed by a group of people in turtle necks in a super moody Soho creative agency in the 1990s with weird facial hair and who do coke with the chemical brothers, F-Zero looks like it was designed by a happy, wide-eyed individual who loves comic books and had a very vivid, colourful vision for the future universe. Similar settings/themes but a totally different tone - and I absolutely love both.
SpacePirate Ridley
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Never liked the way wipeout controls while I love how F-Zero does, also besides GX I prefer the music of F-Zero.
Then theres the charisma of its pilots and the comic book aesthetic which I adore.
As a logo designer I do like the team logos of wipeout and the idea to have vehicles done by different teams just like in real f-1.
Then theres the charisma of its pilots and the comic book aesthetic which I adore.
As a logo designer I do like the team logos of wipeout and the idea to have vehicles done by different teams just like in real f-1.
WipeOut was designed by a dude who wished he could play Mario Kart to techno music, no joke
kqedequalsvolvo
Member
Haha yeah, it's really weird that it came out of that concept. You've still got the fast pace, the weapons and racing combined and yet the art style and tone ended up so far from Mario Kart (or F-Zero, despite having so many gameplay similarities).
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