Yeah the only 2 above Brainiac really is Darksied and Anti Monitor lore wise right?
Numerous questions..
A lot of characters are above Braniac.Yeah the only 2 above Brainiac really is Darksied and Anti Monitor lore wise right?
So where exactly even are Raven/Hawkgirl/Killer Frost/Grundy & whoever else was regime on the 1st game but MIA in the 2nd? Certainly not in the same prison as Supes/Robin/Cyborg.
I didnt, but i mean, i know the overall story and unless he was actually raised differently this time around, i just dont see how he can become evil just cause Lois dies. People die, people dont become evil cause of it. Unless i missed something big.
I just dont believe that someone whos been that good all their lives can just become evil because of one action. People who become evil imo already have that angry side in them. Like Batman. Batman i could believe it. But superman? That goody 2 shoes? I dont buy it at all. Real stretch.
I didnt, but i mean, i know the overall story and unless he was actually raised differently this time around, i just dont see how he can become evil just cause Lois dies. People die, people dont become evil cause of it. Unless i missed something big.
I just dont believe that someone whos been that good all their lives can just become evil because of one action. People who become evil imo already have that angry side in them. Like Batman. Batman i could believe it. But superman? That goody 2 shoes? I dont buy it at all. Real stretch.
That red lantern bit feels completely out of place and random in regards to the rest of the story. Must be a seed for the sequel's story, like all the alluding to Darkseid.
I don't know if the basis of the plot of Injustice is something NRS personally pitched to WB, but I sure don't like that their two main franchises are sharing too many similarities: Time travel, the multiverses, a once-good power couple turning full demonic evil tyrants, no clear ending but a bunch of cliffhangers who might/might not be fully developed.
I really liked Wonder Woman in Injustice 2 just alone for almost killing Tara Strong Harley.
Seriously this. All this fucking Batman biased shit. And it's always a Evil Superman.
The final choice is about what to do with Brainiac. Who did you side with?WHAT HAPPENS TO BRAINIAC ? He's never mentioned again after the final choice ...
Seriously. The DC cast being split down the center is the universe these games are about. Getting pouty that they didn't decide to go back to some standard status-quo is utterly pointless. That clearly isn't the story they have any intention of telling.Are people expecting Injustice Superman to turn it around at some point or something? Dude murdered a kid in the first game, he aint turning it around.
The final choice is about what to do with Brainiac. Who did you side with?
Batman keeps him alive to restore the old cities and steps back to let a new Justice League take the reigns while he rebuilds.I sided with Batman and never heard of Brainiac again...
Meh ... pretty disappointed. So many plotholes ...
- I don't understand the power levels in this game ...
It seems like : Superman > Batman > everyone else.
It doesn't make any sense.
How in hell can Batman beat Wonder Woman ? Is she much weaker than I thought she was ?
Or is it all justified with the OP pill from the first game ?
WHAT HAPPENS TO BRAINIAC ? He's never mentioned again after the final choice ...
I sided with Batman and never heard of Brainiac again...
I just dont believe that evil ending. Its not in his character at all to become someone like that. Hes been the quintessential "good boy" all his life and suddenly, hes gonna be a tyrant?? I dont buy it at all.
I think it would have been more consistent with the rest of the story if Supergirl was the one who had to take on Brainiac, and then had to choose between the Regime and Batman's Team. Instead it just turned into a retread of the last game's conflict.
Supergirl is set up as the protagonist, especially since she's got the strongest arc of the main characters. But she's sidelined at the end so Supes and Bats can beat Brainiac and then punch each other some more.
All that said, I really enjoyed the story overall. I love every scene where someone calls Wonder Woman out on her shit.
Wonder Woman is disappointingly the worst in this game. In any medium I've always found the Wonder Woman/Superman romantic relationship dynamic to be super lame/boring in pretty much every way. It's like the head cheerleader dating the captain of the football team. WHO CARES
Wonder Woman's role in the whole Injustice universe is baffling. What's her motivation in all this? Superman's love, REALLY???????????
This is a slap in the character's face and well established position within the DC universe. Isnt she suppose to be a feminist role model but yet she is reduced to some crazed, lovelorn one dimensional villain.
Bad ,lazy,and non creative writing IMO.
For real though. Wonder Woman is a straight up evil bitch in this universe. Her personality consisted solely of anger and bloodlust, even suggesting that Kara, a teenager (I think) may have to be killed if she doesn't immediately fall in line, even after she just got to the planet. Of course Superman already killed a little kid in the first game so that's not such a foreign concept but still. If it wasn't for her I feel like Superman could have been saved in this game.Wonder Woman is the real villain in this universe. Superman could have come back from the brink even after all the disaster that happened to him if he had someone there to actually pull him back. Wonder Woman instead went the Lady Macbeth route.
Anyways, enjoyed the story. Picked Batman in the final chapter because fuck Superman. Really like the Injustice universe, looking forward to more.
Or maybe it's because he didn't like their actions or motivations, not the fact that they were female and black. FFSDon't worry, I'll take a stab at these.
Why is Wonder Woman just plain terrible? - Because villainous women anger you more than villainous men.
Why was Cyborg just plain terrible? - Because villainous black people anger you more than villainous white people.
I'm a fan of the "Wonder Woman is the real villain" concept. But at the same time Superman at this point is a child murderer and threatened to murder a family member who's also one of the last of his race. Supes is pretty far gone.
It was FIVE YEARS between Lois's death and the start of Injustice. It wasn't overnight.I'm split on this concept. In enjoying this idea i must throw all logic and reasoning out the window.
I like my villains complex w/ multi-layers. Superman is 2 dimensional and Wonder Woman is 1 dimensional villain here.
Those blaming WW for Superman's heel turn, IMO have reduced him to be a simple idiot(grieving or not)who can be easily swayed to kill a child among many others.
Wonder Woman is an enabler at best IMO. She mistakenly killed huntress, Superman willfully killed Shazam.
I dont mind both Superman and WonderWoman as villains but give me something meaty to chew on please. Greif is one thing but for Superman to do a 180 on his character is ....???????
Killing Joker i can see / understand but after that his actions are baffling to me.
Makes me wish we got a fully fleshed out RPG set during these 5 years where you can play as different heroes and choose which side you're on.It was FIVE YEARS between Lois's death and the start of Injustice. It wasn't overnight.
The comics handle it with incredible skill as he grows more and more and more isolated, frustrated, and misguided. He and Batman try talking it out time and again and the situation just keeps deteriorating.
Before Shazam, he starts killing supervillains and justifying it. He starts resorting to torture for "the greater good". Then he starts killing unpowered villains. Then antiheroes. He starts taking steps to quell opposition, non-lethally at first (like the Titans), but he gets more and more unstable.
His ultimate villainous turn is when he beats Green Arrow to death after his parents are injured in the crossfire.
It was a long, LONG slippery slope. Joker was just the catalyst.
Damn ... after looking up some stuff on the injustice universe, I discovered the game isn't even coherent with the tie-in comics.
.specially regarding Zsasz's fate
You could say the comics are not canon, but the game itself makes MANY references to the events of the comics, some pretty specific too and requires us to have read the comics regarding some characters (Green Arrow for example) and the next moment, completely ignores what the comics told us...
The writing in this game is a mess.
Damn ... after looking up some stuff on the injustice universe, I discovered the game isn't even coherent with the tie-in comics.
.specially regarding Zsasz's fate
You could say the comics are not canon, but the game itself makes MANY references to the events of the comics, some pretty specific too and requires us to have read the comics regarding some characters (Green Arrow for example) and the next moment, completely ignores what the comics told us...
The writing in this game is a mess.
Yeah bringing about World Peace in such a way that the God of War was damn near powerless. Real Dick move that. People called Superman evil yet look at all the people Batman threw into the meat grinder for his crusade against Superman. I swear some people have a real problem separating cause and effect. Does anything go the way it does in Injustice without Bruce their egging it on with one of his Plans? Dick died cause Batman couldn't stand to have his Psycho party pals who are convicted felons put in a better prison, how that got turned into Superman's killing everyone is beyond me. He gets upset over Superman killing Parademons (I guess in this Game it gets turned into Superman inviting Kaliback to come to Earth for peace talks with Apocalyse then pulling some Lannister shit.)
Half the time Superman in the Injustice comics is just defending himself and the Earth from attacks set up by Batman and Company. Hell that Green Lantern business started cause the Elders were Scared that with Superman in charge people would need them anymore. And Hell WHAT DID SUPERMAN DO TO THE THE PEOPLE OF EARTH THAT WAS EVIL? Save them from Death and Enslavement time and again? The People were With Superman and the Regime at the start of Injustice, it was the Killing of Luthor that made the People start to fear Superman because they didn't have Context of Why Superman killed him. Guy had been helping Batman the whole time under Superman's nose, a Huge betrayal so yeah Supes killed a traitor.
Batman never apologies for any mistakes and his fan seem to love him for that, Why. Only and Asshole never admits to being wrong. Superman fights so the World won't need him anymore but I don't think Batman does the same since Batman NEEDS an Enemy to Be Batman. I believe once Superman Killed the Joker Batman immediately set his New Enemy as Superman and did everything in his Power to push him further over the abyss until he finally snapped. Read the comic it's all there.
Wonder Woman is the real villain in the Injustice universe, and I love it.
Again what did she do that was villainous? Yes she killed Huntress but that was an Accident. You can't play with the Big Dogs using PED's and expect kid gloves. Hell Why was Helena against the Regime anyway? Isn't her thing killing the Bad guys too?
And I believe Billy wasn't transformed into Captain Marvel when Superman killed him, Like it shows in Kingdom Come an older Billy looks just like Captain Marvel. Why else would he try to say Shazam when Superman grabbed him instead of just knocking him away with his equal strength? Also Captain Marvel is just as Invulnerable as Superman why would Heat vision kill him. If Superman is a Child killer for killing CM then Harley is a Sex offender for hitting on him knowing he's really a kid.
Still haven't beaten the story mode yet (pretty much there I think, Chapter 11), keep getting sidetracked by Multiverse mode.
I'd love to see some of these dynamics in the real DCU, Aquaman and Black Adam should have their own alliance, especially since most of the super hero powerbase is based on the US.
I think they made a mistake with making Superman too evil, he isn't really redeemable after killing Billy in cold blood. It's far more interesting when they play around with the morality and effectiveness with executing criminals, they should highlight the deficiencies in Batman's methods.
And I believe Billy wasn't transformed into Captain Marvel when Superman killed him, Like it shows in Kingdom Come an older Billy looks just like Captain Marvel. Why else would he try to say Shazam when Superman grabbed him instead of just knocking him away with his equal strength? Also Captain Marvel is just as Invulnerable as Superman why would Heat vision kill him. If Superman is a Child killer for killing CM then Harley is a Sex offender for hitting on him knowing he's really a kid.
I'd love to see some of these dynamics in the real DCU, Aquaman and Black Adam should have their own alliance, especially since most of the super hero powerbase is based on the US.