• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

[RUMOR] Super Smash Bros Switch images leaked

Status
Not open for further replies.
Regardless of whether it's fake or not, I'm good on Smash for awhile. I played a lot of the Wii U version, and unless this adds more single player content I don't really see a reason to plunk $60 for it.

Mario Maker Switch on the other hand...
 

Outrun

Member
I don't know about you chaps, but I can't afford the extra controllers for this game!

Looks beautiful though.
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Asking again: Which version Yoshi's model for the Break the Target stage could be more similar to? Wii U's or 3DS's?
 
Could it be possible the Sticker Star stage is edited from Color Splash?

Here's a screenshot from the game.

Paper-Mario-Color-Splash-Screenshot-2016-11-04-12-12-34.png
 
2 Questions:

Would the classic "Break the Targets" be new to this game? I feel like it was replaced in Wii U and 3DS or was there both?

Theoretically... could the models change dynamically between docked and undocked? Our would it not be seamless when actually in the process of docking/undocking?
 
Why would they have 3ds models?

The models look a bit like hybrids dont they?

Maybe they want more style or color?

Maybe you can choose between the multiple models like costumes?

I mean... If this is a MegaMix mashup of all things Smash Bros then it could be fitting the theme of a "Everything in One" game

2 Questions:

Would the classic "Break the Targets" be new to this game? I feel like it was replaced in Wii U and 3DS or was there both?

Theoretically... could the models change dynamically between docked and undocked? Our would it not be seamless when actually in the process of docking/undocking?

Considering how other games on switch perform I cant see any benefit to swapping models when going undocked

I think they are just allowing the use of all the assets in this mega mix of a game
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
Here is the reason this is likely real

If you were making a fake leak the first thing you'd do is include a new character. Why go to such an insane amount of detail for multiple fake shots to confirm an upres 3ds stage and upres smash run?

Also any inconsistencies can be explained by it being in development, remember the real smash 4 leaks had "inconsistencies"

It's harder to fake the character than the stage. It's probably why he went for the stage and mode. However I'm not taking any side on this matters tho.
 
They developed the game using the Wii U character models as the base. The 3DS models were downscaled based on those. There's no reason for a system more powerful than the Wii U to be using the 3DS characters as the base, especially if they went to the trouble of redoing the stages.

The Wii U version uses higher detail models (and textures, and lighting) than the 3DS version does. The Switch is more powerful than the Wii U even in portable mode, so it would make little sense for them to use the inferior models.

Didn't realize, thanks!

Because the Switch is more powerful than the Wii U, docked or undocked.

This much I knew, haha.
 
I believe
Always assumed a switch port would have all the stages from 3DS and Wii U

#FreeIceClimbers

Could be a 3DS filter too, wouldn't be surprised if people prefer the handheld model to console model
I remember lots of 3DS people hating the Wii U version for some reason
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Could it have been a blanket change to enable things like split-screen Smash Run. Maybe all of that model detail goes to waste on the 720p screen?

Wii U models would have been the easiest thing to use so I don't understand why someone making a fake wouldn't, unless they were painting on 3DS geometry to do everything.
But again, the Switch is more powerful than the Wii U. The Smash 4 models are no more detailed than most Wii U models, but you didn't see MK8D downsample their models. Same for ARMS, they just cut the frame rate & resolution. Going with 3DS models for a Switch game when there's Wii U models that the system can handle makes zero sense.

Also, as mentioned by NinjaCoachZ, this was supposed to be a Japanese leak, yet Bowser Jr. isn't listed as "Koopa Jr.".
 

Greenzxy

Junior Member
Yea these look fake to me since the characters looks like upscaled 3DS models, due to their textures.

Like Luigi from the bottom right looks like he has the same ambient occulsion textures and purplish pants from the 3DS version, where as the smash wii u version has a darker blue color and the denim has polygons.

dZ1bLys.png


hni_0063_by_mrcookieblaster-d81smsb.jpg



Charluigi(1).jpg
 
Looks fake to me, but I'm not basing that on much. It's plausible at least.

That said, it's such a boring leak. Why would someone even go to the trouble of faking something so boring.
 

Vespa

Member
Team fake. Shadows look off...like they've stretched a copy of the model. To me, it looks like the goomba's feet are under his body so it shouldn't be casting a shadow but there's a cast shadow of his back foot.

tinfoilhat.jpg
 
Team Fake, it looks convincing for the most part but that 3DS Bowser JR ruins it.


Shame, because I really like the idea of Smash run and all the 3DS stages being added.
 
If it's a game in development combining elements from smash from 3ds, wiiu, and new content yeah I can totally expect some inconsistency in the models at this point in development. There is nothing that says the game is coming out in 2017.

That's not the point. The point is that someone who would make a hoax could come up with exactly the same story. Why? I would say just for further confusion, but apparently it's enough for some to say "well, fakers would not use 3DS models, but real devs on the other hand, would".
 
The other thing to note when discussing character models is that the Switch undocked, which is more powerful than the Wii U, can only render a 720p image, while Smash for Wii U was 1080p at all times. This means that they will have even more overhead for more detailed characters and effects, as it will be rendering less than 50% of the pixels of the Wii U version yet on a more powerful machine.

The Toon Link on those two screenshots is in the same exact position in the air.

dZ1bLys.png


Fake.

That "screenshot" is from a 4 player split screen Smash run mode. Look at the timer in the center. Obviously Toon Link should be in the same place in both quadrants, it's the same screenshot.
 

deleted

Member
I'll report what I said in the other thread.

So the thing I find most suspicious is that the characters blend into the background art in those screens.

If you look at how Smash Bros games are made, the backgrounds are somewhat more faded to help the characters stand out and be instantly readable.

They also seem to be very texture heavy without much normal mapping (I could be seeing this wrong, admittedly, it's pretty zoomed out), which strikes me as odd for a current-gen game (or a recent game at all).

That said, anything with this much effort should usually at least be humored.

Most of the stages seen in the OP seem to be splitscreen Smash Run, which might explain weird looking stuff that is being ported from the 3DS - might also explain why they use lower rez versions of the characters in there, since it uses a lot of memory?

That said, I'm leaning towards team fake. 4 player split screen Smash Run, but no map?
Each player having a map for themselves doesn't really sound like something matching the design sensibilities of Sakurai. Might be totally off here though.

The Paper Mario map could also be someone going mad with the Color Splash assets. That said - no idea. Would love to see Smash 4 Switch at E3.
I don't need a new one, I need a compilation with a few more stages and characters and I'm set for the next 5 years.
 

Shang

Member
seems fake, but what a waste of time if it is. there's nothing really interesting or juicy here

actually I don't know what I'm talking about.
 

timshundo

Member
#teamreal

It's one thing to photoshop rayman into a character select screen... but this a new stage 3D modeled from the ground up.

Like it's 3% chance it's fake and even if so I deserve to be bamboozled if fake cuz it's so well done.

REALLLLLL!!!

SUPER SMASH BROS DELUXE™
 
Nah, the 4chan thread says that the screenshots are for a Japanese magazine and there is a screenshot with "Bowser Jr." instead of "Koopa Jr."
Yup and it's not an english version either because that one uses "P1" "P2" etc. instead of "1P" like on the japanese screenshots.

So it is using the English name of Bowser Jr. with the Japanese convention of player naming. Dubious.

An example of japanese gameplay using "Koopa Jr." and "1P" conventions
5CSwILW.png

And here is the english version using "Bower Jr." and "P1"
x4gCaCe.png
 
Team Fake, it looks convincing for the most part but that 3DS Bowser JR ruins it.


Shame, because I really like the idea of Smash run and all the 3DS stages being added.

The rumors surrounding the development of the game suggest exactly that

There is also a rumor of a New 3DS version as well (gawd i hope not)

Its possible that both models will be selectable as a feature?
 
The toon Link on those two screenshots is in the same exact position in the air.

Fake.

It's the same screenshot showing splitscreen, of course he would be in the same position.

Too hard to say if real or not, it's a boring leak at least so that does help its validity. There's no Ridley in the shots so that also helps.
 
The Toon Link on those two screenshots is in the same exact position in the air.

dZ1bLys.png


Fake.

Not saying this is real, but this is supposed to be a 4-player mode, so those two shots are actually taking place at the same time. The player in the top right playing as Ness is a bit further along than Toon Link.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom