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Steven Universe |OT4| Every Rose Has Its Thorns

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ZdkDzk

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Off the topic of Pink Diamond

Did anyone else notice the broken statue of the 2 gem fusion right before the hunter killer showed up? It's one thing to have a giant fusion statue on earth, it's another to have the ruins of homeworld have a Garnet sized fusion statue just sitting there.
 
Off the topic of Pink Diamond

Did anyone else notice the broken statue of the 2 gem fusion right before the hunter killer showed up? It's one thing to have a giant fusion statue on earth, it's another to have the ruins of homeworld have a Garnet sized fusion statue just sitting there.

I took it to be a same-gem fusion, probably an Agate, which is why it would be condoned. Not only that, but it would make sense to have one so close to one of those super-kindergartens with how it's implied that Agates may whip new gems into shape. With a kindergarten that huge, it may have been too difficult for individual Agates to do their job effectively.
 

Psxphile

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Small Save The Light update from the Grumpyface twitter.



Demo impressions and articles
Polygon: Steven Universe: Save the Light is a game by fans, but it's not just for them
Polygon: Steven Universe: Save the Light's cast gets bigger with its coolest mechanic
The Verge: Steven Universe: Save the Light will build out the beloved series's mythology


”It's been liberating, really," said Graham of Steven Universe: Save the Light, which is both an Attack the Light sequel and Grumpyface's first console project. ”We always had a bigger vision for the mobile game than we were able to do ... [with] the show lending itself to the scope we wanted and us being RPG fans and kind of wanting to get into some of these deeper RPG mechanics."

It's those mechanics that seem like the most likely way to pull in those who don't necessarily love Steven Universe, but love a good, old-fashioned RPG. We got to demo a few levels of Save the Light on PlayStation 4 and quickly found a lot to love. The 2.5D graphical style is gorgeous, for starters; it's a more stylized version of the beautiful Steven Universe cartoon's animation, and it helps to set a lighthearted tone for the game. Even those who don't recognize all the background characters populating the main hub world, Beach City, will appreciate how detailed each one is, and how adorably everything is drawn, from buildings to trees.
Steven Universe: Save the Light screen On the Beach City boardwalk, a familiar place from the show. Grumpyface Studios/Cartoon Network

The battle system is also familiar and fun. It's a combination of active time-based battles from Final Fantasy, where characters wait for a timer to go off so they can attack, and the Mario RPG games, which grant attack bonuses when players hit the button at just the right time. Save the Light also adds in relationship stat effects and a skill points gauge, so that the team of four can perform special moves to cut down the time spent in a fight. It's one of those easy to pick up but slightly tougher to master kind of games, based on what we played. We couldn't get enough.

That much was obvious in the opening moments of the demo version we previewed earlier this month. From the beginning, it plants players in a fully realized, 3D version of Beach City, Steven's fictional hometown. The open world isn't as vast as, say, Hyrule in Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, but it's easy to see that a great deal of care went into re-creating the boardwalk from the show, complete with its shops, hideaways, and the colorful supporting cast milling around. (Graham also admits that the game's style was inspired by Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, so the team's love for Nintendo is as clear as ever.)

In Save The Light, Steven explores a variety of worlds on his quest to rescue the ancient light weapon he befriended in the first game. Joining Steven on his adventure are the Crystal Gems — alien warriors Garnet, Amethyst, and Pearl — along with Steven's best friend, Connie, and his father, Greg Universe. As in the series and original game, the Gems have a variety of combat abilities, like Pearl's spear and beam attacks, and Garnet's magic gauntlets. Connie and Greg add even more depth to the action; Connie's sword makes her a frontline fighter, while Greg's guitar lets him amplify the abilities of other party members. Steven, with few offensive abilities of his own, serves as the support character, since he can heal his friends, shield them from danger, and even resurrect them if they're defeated. Not only are these abilities useful in battle, but the developers brought some of them — like Greg's musical talents — into the open world, too, adding platforming and puzzle-solving elements to the game.
"”Who you're trying to impress or support is a huge part of the gameplay.""

”When we did the first game, we had all these big, ambitious ideas that we had to put into a smaller game," Sugar says. ”Now, we get to expand on everything, especially a lot of the relationship dynamics that in these small ways, sort of snuck into the first game. Like, you tell a joke that you know one of the Gems will laugh at. Who you're trying to impress or support has gone from a kind of Easter egg to being a huge part of the gameplay."

That relationship system is key to the game, and it's part of what makes the adventure fit so well alongside the series it draws from. During battle, the game rewards players for defending teammates, or executing a perfect combo by having characters build up relationship points with each other. Those points build up over time, and when maxed out, they can unlock new abilities. For instance, Steven and Connie can gain the ability to fuse into Stevonnie, an ”experience" who embodies the best of both characters.

More at the links!

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Jofamo

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Save the Light is going to be amazing. I can't wait.

This game needs to be on Switch, but for now the focus seems to be on PS4. One article mentions it will launch on PS4 and Xbox One, but the other says that it'll launch on PS4 in Summer, and other consoles (plural) later.

As far as I can tell there's no definitive word on what exactly it's launching on.
 
Of course Steven and Connie do the little dance from Mindful Education to fuse.

Between Wanted, the soundtrack releasing this Friday (!), and Save the Light in a few months, it's a great time to be a Steven Universe fan.
 

Psxphile

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Of course Steven and Connie do the little dance from Mindful Education to fuse.

It's cute all right, but I only just noticed that Connie is wearing that new outfit of hers but it doesn't transfer to Stevonnie's design. I'm sure this is going to be a sticking point for some who absolutely need to have their lore strictly adhered to.
 
Hoping it gets to the Switch later this year. Super excited for it though!

Speaking of excitement, is there anywhere else other than iTunes I can get the soundtrack from?
 

Peff

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That's the footage from this Gamespot article. About 20-minutes of raw footage and NO annoying commentary.

Whoops, yeah, that makes more sense, haha. Looking at the whole video makes me wish AT had gotten something similar, but hey, SU will more than do. The battles could use a little extra speed, but otherwise they seem to be nailing the transition from touch screen game to full-on Mario & Luigi-esque RPG.
 

caliph95

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Took it long enough:
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Also is Blue pearl a meme now:
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I think Pink Diamond shattered herself to allow the rebellion to fully kick off. YD is ashamed of this and is trying to cover it up.

Nah, my guess is that Rose Quartz probably convinced Pink Diamond on how good the Earth was in terms of its inhabitants and propensity for life and she wanted to convey that to Yellow Diamond who was gonna have none of that. So she shatters Pink Diamond and pins it on Rose Quartz who was the leader of the rebellion to get the rest of Homeworld on her side. It could explain why she is so adamant to kill Steven and to get the cluster up and running. At least that's my theory.
 

PK Gaming

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SU was emotional in a way it hasn't been in years

Seriously, the Lars stuff fucked me up. His death and revival is like the most bittersweet moment in the series. It's good that he's alive, but he isn't human anymore (how's that going to play out?!)

I can't believe they turned my least favorite character into someone worthwhile.
 
If fusions / relationship bonuses exist, I wonder if Smoky Quartz will be "playable" like Stevonnie?

Also, if that's the case, how are they going to get around potential steven!Rainbow Quartz, the Steven / Garnet fusion, etc.
 

Rlan

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SU was emotional in a way it hasn't been in years

Seriously, the Lars stuff fucked me up. His death and revival is like the most bittersweet moment in the series. It's good that he's alive, but he isn't human anymore (how's that going to play out?!)

I can't believe they turned my least favorite character into someone worthwhile.

Gonna be rough to see how they deal with Lars' parents, now that their son died, came back and is now pink, and on a completely different planet.
 

Psxphile

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If fusions / relationship bonuses exist, I wonder if Smoky Quartz will be "playable" like Stevonnie?

Also, if that's the case, how are they going to get around potential steven!Rainbow Quartz, the Steven / Garnet fusion, etc.

They'll just limit it. After all there's also two as-yet unannounced party members and apparently one DLC character that will be made available after launch. They can't all have fusions with everyone, so it'll be a special feature for particular pairs only. Maybe they can come up with some Dual Tech-like abilities to fill in for the others?

EDIT: yeah the gamespot article talks about this, characters who don't fuse get team attacks instead
Also it says Save The Light will have 7 party members... wasn't it originally said that there was going to be 8 or am I mis-remembering? Did they pull one and make it the DLC character?
 

Peff

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EDIT: yeah the gamespot article talks about this, characters who don't fuse get team attacks instead
Also it says Save The Light will have 7 party members... wasn't it originally said that there was going to be 8 or am I mis-remembering? Did they pull one and make it the DLC character?

Yup. Maybe CN pushed the date forward and they turned one of them into (hopefully free) DLC.
 

TheOGB

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Man, Save the Light is looking very good so far. Love how Greg's jams sync to the battle music and (boss spoiler)
you can name the first boss lmao
 
I'm really impressed with the nuances they've added to the battle system. There's much more of an Active Time Battle element now as enemies gradually move towards you to attack. Positioning also matters a lot more, since Steven's Shield Dash can run through several enemies if they're lined up. Amethyst's attacks (which were just "Attack All" in Attack the Light) now have an AoE cone, so she can hit more enemies depending on where she and they are located.

I agree that the enemies could be faster, but I assume they're slow to give the player time to plan. If they do higher difficulties like they did in Attack the Light, I can see enemies moving a lot faster depending on the difficulty.
 

Blues1990

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I love that whenever Greg performs a passive ability, the battle theme accommodates his guitar solo, which is awesome! Now I'll have Greg as a permanent party member for that reason alone, depending on how many characters you can have out at a time.

It's great that Fusions also make an appearance, so that I can have Sugilite wreck the living shit out of the games bosses. Makes me wonder if Steven could fuse with Greg, Pearl, and Garnet.
 

Opto

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I'm imagining the shattering of Pink Diamond was really like the end of season 2 of Code Geass. That way it doesn't contradict Eyeball's testimony and allows for why PD's death is suspicious.
 
This FB stream thing is strange but Sugar just confirmed that yes, there's a limit to the distance Lion's power can take him and going to the moon took all his might so Lars gotta find another way home even if he discovers this power.
 
Took it long enough:

Also is Blue pearl a meme now:
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I just know someone, somewhere has drawn Blue Pearl drawing DickButt.
It is inevitable.
 
Well, worst case scenario, they still have lapis.
lol

Given that Eyeball was found and returned to Homeworld, it's possible that Lapis flew part of the way towards Homeworld, but was eventually picked up by a random ship.

It's different because Navy was (I assume) actually searching for Eyeball, but it's still possible. Even before the Return, there were still Homeworld ships or drones like the Red Eye in Laser Light Cannon.
 
I just know someone, somewhere has drawn Blue Pearl drawing DickButt.
It is inevitable.

Ask and you shall receive.

Side note: Wanted had 1.5 million viewers according to the Nielsen ratings. That's more than Teen Titans Go and one of the highest ratings CN has had all year. For the first half-hour, it was also up against a Loud House special which had 2 million viewers.

EDIT: Sorry for the double post, was meaning to type this and then edit it into the previous post, but I accidentally hit save.
 

zulux21

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Ask and you shall receive.


Side note: Wanted had 1.5 million viewers according to the Nielsen ratings. That's more than Teen Titans Go and one of the highest ratings CN has had all year. For the first half-hour, it was also up against a Loud House special which had 2 million viewers.

EDIT: Sorry for the double post, was meaning to type this and then edit it into the previous post, but I accidentally hit save.

I wonder if they will realize that actually advertising SU can help it's ratings quite a bit :p

also that they should confirm that it's been picked up for a season 6 :p
 

KiN0

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Given that Eyeball was found and returned to Homeworld, it's possible that Lapis flew part of the way towards Homeworld, but was eventually picked up by a random ship.

It's different because Navy was (I assume) actually searching for Eyeball, but it's still possible. Even before the Return, there were still Homeworld ships or drones like the Red Eye in Laser Light Cannon.

I actually assumed she might have found another hw world warp pad or something. Heck, lazulis are made for terraforming, so maybe they can travel through space particularly quickly.

Does Lars need to breath anymore?

Good question. He doesn't seem to need to eat or drink, so maybe he doesn't need to breathe either. Funny enough, HW doesn't seem to have any trees or plants, so where's the oxygen coming from?
 
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fucking wow

Between this and Onion Gang also foreshadowing Steven bringing Lars back from the dead, there really are no throwaway lines in this show.

I wouldn't be surprised if more Season 1A stuff like gem shards animating inanimate objects like in Frybo or the Crystal Heart in the temple end up becoming important later.
 

RedHill

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Between this and Onion Gang also foreshadowing Steven bringing Lars back from the dead, there really are no throwaway lines in this show.

I wouldn't be surprised if more Season 1A stuff like gem shards animating inanimate objects like in Frybo or the Crystal Heart in the temple end up becoming important later.
I still want to know what the heaven beetle is exactly
 

hughesta

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also god damn, knowing Steven can bring humans back to life will suck the tension out of any fight scene with Connie in it.
 

zulux21

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also god damn, knowing Steven can bring humans back to life will suck the tension out of any fight scene with Connie in it.

I really don't understand this thought process at all.

it's a kids show.
they were never going to kill connie off.

an evil gem maybe
but never a kid.

beyond that even if they did plan to kill off someone like connie.
this changes nothing.

in fact it could double down the tragedy.

"oh, connie got fatally stabbed, doesn't matter steven will just revive her."
"why aren't the tears working."
"oh god... oh crap... connie is really dead."

it's not like steven's powers haven't had a history of not always working the way he wants when he lets his emotions get the better of him.

anyways, it's going to be greg that is killed off at the end of the season.... and steven's powers won't work on him. He will die a hero saving his son, and you will get to ball your eyes out. Calling it here :p
 

XAL

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Between this and Onion Gang also foreshadowing Steven bringing Lars back from the dead, there really are no throwaway lines in this show.

I wouldn't be surprised if more Season 1A stuff like gem shards animating inanimate objects like in Frybo or the Crystal Heart in the temple end up becoming important later.

huh elaborate?
 

Psxphile

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also god damn, knowing Steven can bring humans back to life will suck the tension out of any fight scene with Connie in it.
Even though Dragon Balls and Senzu Beans are a thing, you still feel a sense of dread as Spopovitch goes to town on Videl's face.
 
Ask and you shall receive.


Side note: Wanted had 1.5 million viewers according to the Nielsen ratings. That's more than Teen Titans Go and one of the highest ratings CN has had all year. For the first half-hour, it was also up against a Loud House special which had 2 million viewers.

EDIT: Sorry for the double post, was meaning to type this and then edit it into the previous post, but I accidentally hit save.

🤓

My day is complete

guys.

what if...

Lars go inside Lion's Mane

That is utterly broken, power wise.
 

There's the scene where Steven follows Onion's friends and they make believe that Garbanzo dies, only for Pinto to "revive" him. Garbanzo even has some "blood" over his eye like how Lars has a scar over his (the eyes are different though).

It's a stretch, sure, but Onion Gang did definitely hint at least one thing and maybe more in Are You My Dad?


If the Crewniverse was using Onion Gang to secretly hint at future episodes, then it's possible they also hinted at Steven reviving Lars. And maybe even more stuff in the future...
 

PSqueak

Banned
So, after my hype had been massively damaged and i stopped watching the show around Tiger philanthropist, i finally decided to catch up and...

Holy fuck! did shit go down lately!

MAn i missed this feeling, being hype about SU!

im back in the train choo choo!

Now break me the bad news, how much will we have to wait for the next episode?
 

zulux21

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steven universe has actually been cancelled in order to produce twice the number of new teen titans go episodes

see I get the joke... but teen titans go is actually almost halfway through it's final confirmed season. just to put it in perspective where SU is just starting it's final confirmed season.

I imagine both will be picked up for more but it's weird they haven't announced something for either.

other fun fact.

Steven Universe has a better average number of viewers per episode in it's final confirmed season than Teen Titans Go does :p
 
I still want to know what the heaven beetle is exactly

Few possibilities:

- They had something to do with the Geode, which is why they were called the "geode beetles of heaven and earth"

- Their uncorrupted forms are that tiny-ass gem caste Steven set the CG'd bodies to at one point in Adventures in Light Distortion

- They might be a Gem we're already aware of? Like, Zircon or the diamond-cut gem on Fluorite? The latter even looks insectoid. Plus, it wouldn't be the first time they retroactively "revealed" a corrupted Gem's form, as the Lighthouse Gem looks really similar to a Topaz
 

PSqueak

Banned
I wouldn't be surprised if more Season 1A stuff like gem shards animating inanimate objects like in Frybo or the Crystal Heart in the temple end up becoming important later.

You could argue that this has been already expanded in the way that gems have been shown to power artifacts, like Lapis' gem powering up the mirror, of course the mirror, not having an anthropomorphic shape like frybo or steven's clothes, basically left Lapis powerless to do anything about her condition.
 
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