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Only the initial 4Chan rumour said that, nothing else has.
Oregano was doing so well in the past few weeks. Or maybe it's just that he really can't stay in the middle. It's one extreme or another
Do I need to remind to everyone how the rumour still states there will be "main" (Portable) MH games on Switch anyway?
Most people aren't basing it on that rumour specifically.
Also I have faith in Nintendo's first party, but not third party. That's entirely consistent.
The better point is that Capcom also said Switch was going to be part of their multiplatform strategy and that's looking like bullshit right now.
Sure, like Monter Hunter Stories proved.
What possible purpose would they have in MH XX Switch 5 months into the Switch's life other than building a userbase for the franchise? A swan song?
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Every we have is based on that initial 4chan rumour. It's all the same source and the only one with any sort of validity in terms of stake and result.
Without that rumour why on earth would anyone think capcom after releasing xx on the switch would focus all their eggs on a ps4 monster hunter rather than releasing xx on the ps4.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Not that I agree with him but WiiU got MH3U:HD and it basically was a swan song.
Yes, and Wii U was dead in the water worldwide 3 months after launching. It also wasn't a portable in Japan.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Ps4 already has a mh Swansong by this measure an actual one. It'a called frontier. No platform that has had that game released on had a mainline game released afterwards.
pretty done
Member
If that game and Wii U sold better there's no doubt there'd have been MH4U/G HD. Capcom didn't know the Wii U was a flop when they did 3U HD, it was a launch game in Japan and came out 3-4 months after in NA.
We already know Switch ain't in the same place.
They might not skip Switch but MHXX is an easy way to cash in on Switch's popularity and Nintendo might have pushed for it as they're struggling to get a third party lineup together.
That's Capcpom for you.
Gotdatmoney
Member
I agree.
I only used 3U:HD since it's like pretty mucg the same HD up res.
I agree.
I was just saying, Capcom porting XX doesn't actually inspire much confidence in me that they have Switch support planned. At least from the on set. I think the Switch and Cross' success caught them off guard.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
That's not even an excuse, MH is literally the only franchise they'be been savy with. I struggle to believe their that stupid when they'be already indicated they plan to support the platform with mh releases.
This is literally all based on hypertheticals you've made up.
If you remove all rumours and statements that may or may not be misconstrued are capcom's actions those of one that plan to completely drop the platform? A launch window port of the latest iteration?
Not that I made up and no MHXX would indicate plans to support Switch but then going two weeks later and announcing the next game in the franchise not for Switch would more than compensate for that.
Well right now they have no multiplatform games for Switch. Unless they meant MHXX being 3DS/Switch multiplatform... lol
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I see you've moved from the existence of a PS4 MH to when a PS4 MH will be announced. Sorry but timing was never the controversial subject in these threads: it was the mere existence of a PS4 MH.
So here's the bet;
There will be a PS4 MH that will not be a port of a pre-existing MH SKU
Note the word pre. 3 month avatar bet.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
That's assuming the game is ps4 exclusive with no further support of the platform down the line which is a hypothetical not even the rumours indicate and there's no thorough enough rumour to even base the ps4 exclusive with no switch port or future mh game.
That is entirely an interpretation you personally came up with not based on anything tangible.
Something people have to careful of otherwise you end up with the sf2 test interpretation which wsn't what capcom meant at all. Always have keeps these interpretations open and not too specific.
Since there have been other Switch announcements in the past few weeks, I've decided to make another update for one of the criterias I've used to compare Switch's pre-launch / first year to other recent platforms, i.e. "Releases by Japanese publishers / developers from the launch to the console's first Holiday (in case of an Holiday release, the subsequent one)"
The original post - http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=232713155&postcount=682
The first update - http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=236491899&postcount=317
The new update -
Nintendo Switch
Totals
Nintendo 3DS - 63 Japanese third party games released
PlayStation Vita - 65
Wii U - 16
PlayStation 4 - 20
Nintendo Switch - 20*
*as of June 5th, 2017
Switch's total would technically be 21, since Fire Emblem Warriors is a KT game in Japan, but I'm still unsure whether to include it or not, given its pecular status.
The original post - http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=232713155&postcount=682
The first update - http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=236491899&postcount=317
The new update -
Nintendo Switch
Totals
Nintendo 3DS - 63 Japanese third party games released
PlayStation Vita - 65
Wii U - 16
PlayStation 4 - 20
Nintendo Switch - 20*
*as of June 5th, 2017
Switch's total would technically be 21, since Fire Emblem Warriors is a KT game in Japan, but I'm still unsure whether to include it or not, given its pecular status.
Even if you take the 4Chan rumour at face value then any potential MH5P wouldn't be announced for at least another year or two, in which case the damage will be done.
for a week or two you were acting somewhat normal. now its back to hyperventilating I see.
If the 4Chan rumor was true it would seem like they would announce the two within a very short time period of each other for damage control.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
What damage. Do you honestly think third parties that were considering to support the switch now would stop because of an exclusive ps4 version? That doesn't even make sense. Third parties would want to sell games on the switch because because there's potential customers there. No mh also means less competition for other hunting action games. It's not as if Japan preference for mobile consoles will suddenly stop being a thing because of a mh on the ps4.
Did the psp stop selling because of the MH on the Wii? Think the argument through.
I don't see how it's ridiculous to suggest that a new mainline entry in the only remaining big Nintendo-focused third party IP skipping Switch wouldn't be a massive blow. It would be seen as a vote of no confidence more than a port of MHXX was seen as a vote of confidence.
Nah Tri and Portable 3rd were announced more than a year apart.
u mean you\re backing out from a ps4 exclusive mh and settling for multiplatform mh?
i said from the start that there would be a late ps4 port at most
the reason i said e3 is because that way we can settle the bet, otherwise u have until the end of the world before u admit defeat
I'm asking you honestly- what do you think the purpose of the XX port is? For shits and giggles? Or do you honestly believe Capcom is going to permanently leave the portable space and literally just give away money?
Principate
Saint Titanfall
And did tri kill third party support on the psp?
Even ignoring that why would capcom. Announce it now if they cared that much. This would also kill the switch version of xx's sales.
Wait what?!
They said that few days ago and since then the only solid game they announced is actually for Switch so...nintendoomed?
I thought there was something I missed at the base of your sentence
Conventional wisdom would indicate it's to set the table for MH5 on Switch but conventional wisdom would also say you don't turn around and announce the next big game in the franchise for a competitor two weeks later.
My opinion is that a multiplatform PS4/Switch with no extreme formula change would be the safest route and perhaps most in character for modern, risk averse Capcom.
PSP was in an entirely different place. It was a well established platform and had a plethora of big third parties games both released and announced for the future.
There's a reason MHXX made Nintendo's stock value rise.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Yes and that's because a game was announced indicating future support and the fan base moving over. Nothing has changed. You've simply gone off on another disgaea 5 tangent where the switch not recieving a single version of a third party games means all support is dead.
Nintendo seems set to have a pokemon on the switch this year do you honestly think shareholders give a crap that it's not getting a version of mh. A franchise that is already supporting the system and where the franchise will be most popular on in Japan? Your argument really doesn't make a by sense.
I laughed
Yes, whilst Nintendo is currently smashing it they will eventually need third parties to help maintain Switch's momentum. Kimishima recently spoke about urging third parties to release major titles as soon as they could.
Eolz
Member
Wow, didn't expect some here to be banned.
Wonder what the Pokemon Direct will be about tomorrow. Stars seems logical at least now.
This one sounds more plausible than the other one lol.
Wonder what the Pokemon Direct will be about tomorrow. Stars seems logical at least now.
This one sounds more plausible than the other one lol.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Nice try but I never entertained the thought that a PS4 exclusive MH was the only possibility. A PS4 MH is all I've been saying since the beginning: multiplat or exclusive.
So take the bet then
People get banned regularly, even frequenters of these threads. The real time to worry will be when Nirolak bans Duckroll, that will be his coup and he will then proceed to take over the world!
*pinky and the brain music begins playing*
Eolz
Member
I was talking about cw_sasuke.
Imagine if that's the reverse though.
Anyway, back on topic, I guess Pokemon Stars would be multiplat at best/worst. With those stock issues...
Will be funny if Monster Hunters and XXS for the west are both announced at E3. Then 5 around TGS.
Imagine if that's the reverse though.
Anyway, back on topic, I guess Pokemon Stars would be multiplat at best/worst. With those stock issues...
Will be funny if Monster Hunters and XXS for the west are both announced at E3. Then 5 around TGS.
Kresnik258
Member
Dunno if it's who he's referring to, but this guy posts here a bit. Think he's been banned for Switch port-begging:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/member.php?u=14285]
edit: Nvm, too slow!
the fact that you think an exclusive ps4 mh is even a possibility says alot
u mean u take the bet? ive been waiting for u to accept it lol
tell me by when will this happen so we can settle it, like i said, otherwise we'll wait forever
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Take my bet. I ain't taking your E3 one as timing of the announcement was never the issue.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Given the game is supposed to release in like 2-3 months, they probably had these plans underway for a while though. You're not going to suddenly go from "no plans for Switch" to "here's MHXX in 2 months" after waiting like 1 month of Switch sales. I'd imagine they've already been working on the port for a couple of months at the very MINIMUM, which basically means they've been working on this since launch or before launch. They may have been hesitant with the Switch, but they clearly still had been working on MHXX Switch despite that. They likely judged (correctly) that even if the Switch didn't sell all that well, having an HD portable MH port should probably be profitable regardless. If anything, MH3U's performance on Wii U should be seen as a good thing, as if MH can sell like that on a failed console, a traditional MH game port on a more successful console, especially one that's portable, should easily sell that much if not more.
The problem here is what we expect out of the next MH. We have three options:
1. A full HD next-gen MH that is heavily westernized like the 4chan rumor suggested.
2. A full HD next-gen traditional MH.
3. Not full HD next-gen MH.
The first one is out because it's stupid. MH is a Japan centered franchise and there is no way Capcom's gonna ditch the biggest market to pursuit a western success that may or may not be there.
The second one is unlikely. Think about how much texture Capcom need to create for all those monsters in full HD in a semi-open-world with various environments. Keep in mind this is the company that is so short of cash that they released their most revered title, SFV, unfinished, even with the help of Sony. Also take note how they made REVII a much cheaper game by making it a first person horror game rather than a full-fledged 3rd person action RE game with multiplayer. Now I won't say it's impossible, if only because Capcom is not known for sound decision making; but I will say it's better to not have any expectation for high-budget AAA game when it comes to Capcom. (DMCV is still a possibility only because Platinum have proved that these games are not too expensive to make).
The 3rd one is the most probable option here, and it has Switch written all over its face. A PS4 up-port is also likely.
1. A full HD next-gen MH that is heavily westernized like the 4chan rumor suggested.
2. A full HD next-gen traditional MH.
3. Not full HD next-gen MH.
The first one is out because it's stupid. MH is a Japan centered franchise and there is no way Capcom's gonna ditch the biggest market to pursuit a western success that may or may not be there.
The second one is unlikely. Think about how much texture Capcom need to create for all those monsters in full HD in a semi-open-world with various environments. Keep in mind this is the company that is so short of cash that they released their most revered title, SFV, unfinished, even with the help of Sony. Also take note how they made REVII a much cheaper game by making it a first person horror game rather than a full-fledged 3rd person action RE game with multiplayer. Now I won't say it's impossible, if only because Capcom is not known for sound decision making; but I will say it's better to not have any expectation for high-budget AAA game when it comes to Capcom. (DMCV is still a possibility only because Platinum have proved that these games are not too expensive to make).
The 3rd one is the most probable option here, and it has Switch written all over its face. A PS4 up-port is also likely.
Switch is HD though.
But no 3D game is 1080p in handheld mode!!!
Or is there
Back to that Monster Hunter shithole I see though
But no 3D game is 1080p in handheld mode!!!
Or is there
Back to that Monster Hunter shithole I see though
Switch screen is 720p so indeed no. In any case it's still a big jump from 240p to 720p in terms of asset making.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Did they make new assets for the Wii U version of MH? I didnt play it so i dont remember.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
So I've got to ask, why does Capcom seem to keep rereleasing old NES/SNES games on everything BUT nintendo platforms? After the whole Disney Afternoon Collection deal, now MMLegacy collection 2 only hits PS4/XB1/PC. It just seems weird to me after Capcom expected an up-port of SF2 to sell well on Switch. By that notion, Switch is a good place to also release your super old games like those collections...
The same reason everything they release fails to hit expectations.
My personal belief is that both Digital Eclipse and the team behind the MM Collection 2 just were not provided with Switch dev-kits in time for a simultaneous release with the other versions. After all, we're talking about games with a rather short announcement-to-release time frame (especially the Disney collection), and the MM Collection is coming this August, so quite soon.