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Media Create Sales: Week 21, 2017 (May 22 - May 28)

Ōkami

Member
The Nintendo fans that own a Switch now likely had an NES as a kid and as such played all those games already, they wouldn't buy them on Switch again.

Megaman 7 and 8 aren't worth playing anyway
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
...Of course, the same day schuelma asked about why MHXX Switch was still out of Comgnet charts, the game entered the charts at 9 pts. And Arms gained other 3 pts.
 

Aters

Member
Switch is HD though.

Yes, but no Switch owners expect their games look as good as those on PS4, and I'm sure Capcom will take advantage of it, if they haven't already.

It's obvious Aters is suggesting that he feels something more akin to a Vita level game is more likely than going straight to a PS4 level game.

Maybe a little better than Vita, but no FFXV or Horizon that's for sure.
 
Yes, but no Switch owners expect their games look as good as those on PS4, and I'm sure Capcom will take advantage of it, if they haven't already.

Maybe a little better than Vita, but no FFXV or Horizon that's for sure.
Well, sure, but it's not like you can't make great looking ambitious games on the Switch, or any hardware really. Like, what about the Switch would prevent them from making an ambitious Monster Hunter game? May not look like Horizon but should look pretty respectable overall, certainly better than what they can pull off last gen or the Vita

Not to mention, these days, most people tend to play games that range from very ambitious (AAA) to not so ambitious (Indie), relatively speaking. I don't think Capcom would have to go out of their way to make a Horizon-looking Monster Hunter for the PS4 either
 

Aters

Member
Well, sure, but it's not like you can't make great looking ambitious games on the Switch, or any hardware really. Like, what about the Switch would prevent them from making an ambitious Monster Hunter game? May not look like Horizon but should look pretty respectable overall, certainly better than what they can pull off last gen or the Vita

Not saying it won't be ambitious, but it sure won't take the same amount of budget. Breath of the Wild is a great looking ambitious game. I'd guess it has a smaller budget than most AAA games on the market.

If Capcom don't want to make something like Horizon, Switch is obviously their best choice. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember a single $60 game on PS4 that sells multi-million without great graphic. The best of them (Bloodborne, P5) sit between 1 and 2 million. If Capcom really want to expend the western market, 1-2 million is not enough because they've already achieved that with MH4.
 
Not saying it won't be ambitious, but it sure won't take the same amount of budget. Breath of the Wild is a great looking ambitious game. I'd guess it has a smaller budget than most AAA games on the market.
Oh of course it won't and Breath of the Wild's budget was most definitely smaller than most AAA games, seeing as it only needed to sell over 2 million to be profitable. It's just that, in this day and age, I think people will play just about anything so as long as the game looks fun and enjoyable and/or it's a franchise they love and so Capcom wouldn't feel a greater need to make something super ambitious with the PS4 than they would with the Switch, save for visuals. I mean, even something niche and comparatively less impressive than stuff like Uncharted 4 like Persona 5 and Nier Automata found some success (Thankfully!) on the same system
 

Aters

Member
Oh of course it won't and Breath of the Wild's budget was most definitely smaller than most AAA games, seeing as it only needed to sell over 2 million to be profitable. It's just that, in this day and age, I think people will play just about anything so as long as the game looks fun and enjoyable and/or it's a franchise they love and so Capcom wouldn't feel a greater need to make something super ambitious with the PS4 than they would with the Switch, save for visuals. I mean, even something niche and comparatively less impressive than stuff like Uncharted 4 like Persona 5 and Nier Automata found some success (Thankfully!) on the same system

So it's just the 3rd option: a traditional MH game with smaller budget than AAA game on Swtich, also ported to PS4. The majority of the sales will be from Japan, on Switch in particular. Or are you suggesting that such a game might be a PS4 exclusive?
 
BTW there was another leak recently in regards of MH PS4

http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/379...ter-hunter-ps4
Obviously that's a troll.

There was however a supposed Ntkrnl leak mentioning MH5 for PS4/XB1/PC being announced at the Sony conference. That one was more interesting because, apparently, MS made a Capcom 3 deal back in 2011/12, back when they cared about Japan, and one of the 3 was to get in on multiplatform MH.
 

Vena

Member
Obviously that's a troll.

There was however a supposed Ntkrnl leak mentioning MH5 for PS4/XB1/PC being announced at the Sony conference. That one was more interesting because, apparently, MS made a Capcom 3 deal back in 2011/12, back when they cared about Japan, and one of the 3 was to get in on multiplatform MH.

Oooh. Got a link?
 
So it's just the 3rd option: a traditional MH game with smaller budget than AAA game on Swtich, also ported to PS4. The majority of the sales will be from Japan, on Switch in particular. Or are you suggesting that such a game might be a PS4 exclusive?
Not impossible and wouldn't shock me. It would be a risk-averse way of making a PS4 exclusive Monster Hunter that still looks good and appeals to Monster Hunter fans. It's not like people avoided, say, Persona 5 because it was a port of an unimpressive PS3 game or a game looking like Nier Automata or Bloodborne and, for those of whom who are really into Monster Hunter, a game not looking like Final Fantasy XV wouldn't turn them off from playing it

Albeit, personally, if it does and up being a PS4 exclusive and Sony funds it, it probably would look impressive. Otherwise, I can see it looking decent but not amazing, on a technical level
 
Obviously that's a troll.

There was however a supposed Ntkrnl leak mentioning MH5 for PS4/XB1/PC being announced at the Sony conference. That one was more interesting because, apparently, MS made a Capcom 3 deal back in 2011/12, back when they cared about Japan, and one of the 3 was to get in on multiplatform MH.

Lies. Its a 4chan post claiming to be from ntkrnl, a gaf poster who posted recently as well.
 

Scum

Junior Member
At least the talk of MH on the Vita made plenty of sense. This is just madness, yet again. I can't wait for E3 to be over. :V
 

Eolz

Member
At least the talk of MH on the Vita made plenty of sense. This is just madness, yet again. I can't wait for E3 to be over. :V

You know that the MH rumors will continue until TGS. And then until next year. Etc.

A tale of leaks and salt, eternally retold.
 
I've been lurking in the sales gallows for many years now....


The truth of the matter is that the winds of change are coming, and we are truly not prepared for the storm the switch is about to cause
 

casiopao

Member
Considering we just see that DQ11 first planned as PS4 exclusive, i cant see anything is impossible nowadays no matter how insane the plan is lol.

And we are talking about Capcom right now lol who is not the epitome of doing smart business moves lol.

Future Monster Hunter completely skipping Switch would raise serious questions about Nintendo's relevance to third parties. It would be a massive blow so I could definitely see Sony pushing for it.

There is no such thing lol. Other third party won't based their moves in the future based on incompetence by Capcom. They will always do what bring them the most muney lol. Just like Disgaea Switch performance will not effect other third party plans.
 

Ōkami

Member
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Crash on August 3rd.

FFXII, then Gundam Versus, then Dragon Quest XI, then Crash, then Dragon Quest X and Everybody's Golf.

Pretty good line up, though I wouldn't expect too much for Crash.

That price too, its just 100 yen more expensive than the Seiken Collection on Switch.

3 ground up remakes of PlayStation games + 100 yen = 3 ROMs.
 

Vena

Member
Ōkami;239321259 said:
FFXII, then Gundam Versus, then Dragon Quest XI, then Crash, then Dragon Quest X and Everybody's Golf.

I'm actually curious how DQX will do considering its more expensive and, far as I am aware, has no upgrade path.
 

Mory Dunz

Member
Would Nintendo announce a 3DS only pkmn Stars, and then announce a switch port at the end of the year for spring 2018 to get double dippers?

shrug
 

foxuzamaki

Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
I've been lurking in the sales gallows for many years now....


The truth of the matter is that the winds of change are coming, and we are truly not prepared for the storm the switch is about to cause

Yeah, the switch has def changed the course of console history.
 

Vinnk

Member
Don't worry the majority of this thread will discuss the possibility of ff7r, kh3, resident evil, persona 5 and many more for switch for the next couple of years or more. They actually started way before the system was even revealed. It will only get better now...

We have come a long way from ridiculing people for even mentioning mh for PS4 to now atleast acknowledging the possibility of it happening. Progress!!!

Surprise Surprise. Pages of MH5 PS4 discussion and as far as I can tell no mention of ff7r, kh3, resident evil or persona 5 ports outside of this post.
 

casiopao

Member
Would rather avoid MH discussion there lol. Question to Vinnk here.

Considering Switch is high in demand right now in japan, how does it affect the game style of younger players in Japan who grow up with mobile game?

As, i remember hearing from some of my mobile gamer friend saying that they dont have enough time to play traditional game as the stamina is filling up.
 

Vinnk

Member
Would rather avoid MH discussion there lol. Question to Vinnk here.

Considering Switch is high in demand right now in japan, how does it affect the game style of younger players in Japan who grow up with mobile game?

As, i remember hearing from some of my mobile gamer friend saying that they dont have enough time to play traditional game as the stamina is filling up.

From my observations the kids in Japan (or at least my area of it) are not growing up with mobile games as much as kids in say the US. Most Japanese kids do not get their first mobile phone until High School. A lot play on their parents phones when they can borrow them but it is likely not their own account on the telephone. For example, I very rarely saw kids walking around alone playing Pokemon GO. It was usually their mom or dad's phone and the parent was usually in tow.

3DS is still a thing here and I see young kids with that device far more than phones. Can't go to any park without seeing a gaggle of kids engrossed in their duel screens. What has changed is I used to see HS kids and even adults with DS or PSPs all the time and that audience has mostly switched over to phones (the only exception is Monster Hunter fans and I occasionally see a HS kid playing Vita Minecraft).

Nintendo is doing pretty good with the gamer young adults. When Nintendo gets the price down, it will have no problem attracting the causal younger kids. It's the casual older kids and casual young adults that will be the harder sell in my opinion.
 

Maxinas

Member
If worse comes to worse, 3ds can keep "Stars", announce the Diamond/Pearl Remakes as Switch exclusives and we're good :^). Then we can patiently wait for the inevitable 8th gen pokemon games in late 2018-2019.
 

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Surprise Surprise. Pages of MH5 PS4 discussion and as far as I can tell no mention of ff7r, kh3, resident evil or persona 5 ports outside of this post.
As far as fanboys GAF is dominated from SDF and it's not unexpected since it's a western forum and Japan was the only place Nintendo was relevant last generation, you shouldn't be surprised. They are just more annoying in Media Create threads because of PS4 situation.
 

Passose

Banned
As far as fanboys GAF is dominated from SDF and it's not unexpected since it's a western forum and Japan was the only place Nintendo was relevant last generation, you shouldn't be surprised. They are just more annoying in Media Create threads because of PS4 situation.
Self Defense Force?
 

Wildo09

Member
I wonder how a new Goemon game would sell in the current market, I would really like to play something like Mystical Ninja Goemon on the switch, with instant coop whenever I want.

That game was so fun to play with my brother.
 

casiopao

Member
From my observations the kids in Japan (or at least my area of it) are not growing up with mobile games as much as kids in say the US. Most Japanese kids do not get their first mobile phone until High School. A lot play on their parents phones when they can borrow them but it is likely not their own account on the telephone. For example, I very rarely saw kids walking around alone playing Pokemon GO. It was usually their mom or dad's phone and the parent was usually in tow.

3DS is still a thing here and I see young kids with that device far more than phones. Can't go to any park without seeing a gaggle of kids engrossed in their duel screens. What has changed is I used to see HS kids and even adults with DS or PSPs all the time and that audience has mostly switched over to phones (the only exception is Monster Hunter fans and I occasionally see a HS kid playing Vita Minecraft).

Nintendo is doing pretty good with the gamer young adults. When Nintendo gets the price down, it will have no problem attracting the causal younger kids. It's the casual older kids and casual young adults that will be the harder sell in my opinion.

It is interesting info with ur experience there especially on the part where kids still dont have their personal smartphones till HS and how HS period changed them into more mobile phone players.( the biggest reason probably is because playing smaphone game is less nerdy to the mass rather than playing dedicated gaming.)

In contrast, in SEA. Young child nowadays grow with tablet or smaphone more compared to traditional gaming. Kids would eat with tablet playing some movies or games in front of their face.

In a way, it end up forming kids who are more used to touch control than us who are used to traditional gaming control.

Tx for the info there Vinnk.^○^
 
As far as fanboys GAF is dominated from SDF and it's not unexpected since it's a western forum and Japan was the only place Nintendo was relevant last generation, you shouldn't be surprised. They are just more annoying in Media Create threads because of PS4 situation.

You're one to talk, using platform warrior acronyms.
 

Mory Dunz

Member
As far as fanboys GAF is dominated from SDF and it's not unexpected since it's a western forum and Japan was the only place Nintendo was relevant last generation, you shouldn't be surprised. They are just more annoying in Media Create threads because of PS4 situation.

imo, I'd say Nintendo fanboys are close in number in Sony ones.
There just hasn't been jack for them to say in recent years.
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
Meh. Preferring one console is fine. Cheering on for the performance of certain games is fine. Talking about the same topic over and over again with little to no change in actual content, no matter what side you're on, is quite annoying. The whole MH5 speculation won't end until MH5 is actually announced for w/e platforms it's on, but until then I'd like to avoid it as much as possible. The funny thing is I'm pretty sure a lot of the folks speculating about it don't actually play the series, they just think it'll have certain ramifications sales-wise. Honestly at this point I'd rather Capcom pull a DQ11 and just release it for all the relevant platforms so that this conversation will stop xD.

Interesting stuff Vinnk. Kids only really getting phones in HS gives at least some leeway in selling dedicated devices in Japan I hope...
 
Gonna be interesting to see how the Pokémon Direct goes tomorrow.

Admittedly, it would be fairly disappointing if Switch isn't mentioned at all. I think a Stars 3DS/Switch release is likely, but at the same time I know how TPC likes to operate. B2/W2 released on the DS even after the 3DS released. Although this time the Switch isn't BC with the 3DS so that changes the game a bit.

I really just hope it isn't 3DS exclusive at this point. I won't be shocked if it is, but it would be a missed opportunity if that's the case.
 
I can't lie, out of all of the Pokemon generations, the prospect of Diamond/Pearl remakes excites me the least. Aside from them being the next logical step, have they been hinted at in any way? Inside or outside the game.
 
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