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Crackdown 3 (XB/PC, Sumo Digital) E3 Trailer out Nov 7th
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CamHostage
Member
Praying that I just got the wrong impression, but nothing about this trailer impressed, and few of the excuses are helping.
But the Campaign they showed was co-op. Whether your multiplayer features take form as a co-op story or whatever deathmatch this destruction-packed MP mode is (in this case, it's both,) you want the physics computed and distributed to all players. Why would damage not be persistent in Campaign?
Well, why make a Campaign mode at all then if what they cut out to be trailers is its "highlights"? And how confident in this cloud tech are they if they're already devising means of keeping people off of them?
Yeah, the gameplay demo of Gamescom is still on the Crackdown 3 page. It was just a demo (and I'd argue it wasn't shown as a multiplayer feature,) but it was playable, so there it is. That said, of course, there have been many an existent game showing for features and graphic functionality that were nonexistent in the final game.
It unfortunately does make some sense if the multiplayer "arenas" that the MP mode describes are very small. The demo had a city block with like 10 skyscrapers, hopefully MP is more than that, though I could see destruction in confined spaces and then normal big-red-fireballs-but-no-topples being the Campaign's level of power flexing.
But the Campaign they showed was co-op. Whether your multiplayer features take form as a co-op story or whatever deathmatch this destruction-packed MP mode is (in this case, it's both,) you want the physics computed and distributed to all players. Why would damage not be persistent in Campaign?
Well, why make a Campaign mode at all then if what they cut out to be trailers is its "highlights"? And how confident in this cloud tech are they if they're already devising means of keeping people off of them?
Yeah, the gameplay demo of Gamescom is still on the Crackdown 3 page. It was just a demo (and I'd argue it wasn't shown as a multiplayer feature,) but it was playable, so there it is. That said, of course, there have been many an existent game showing for features and graphic functionality that were nonexistent in the final game.
It unfortunately does make some sense if the multiplayer "arenas" that the MP mode describes are very small. The demo had a city block with like 10 skyscrapers, hopefully MP is more than that, though I could see destruction in confined spaces and then normal big-red-fireballs-but-no-topples being the Campaign's level of power flexing.
Now load up video of crackdown 1 and this side by side and realize how wrong you are.
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
I love Crackdown 1 dearly, but it was no looker even by early gen 360 standards.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
People here saying it doesn't look too bad graphics wise....
The damn thing should have looked like this:
https://cdn2.pcadvisor.co.uk/cmsdata/features/3623342/crackdown-to-feature-destruc.jpg
The damn thing should have looked like this:
https://cdn2.pcadvisor.co.uk/cmsdata/features/3623342/crackdown-to-feature-destruc.jpg
geordiemp
Member
Yeah it reminded me of it, I did enjoy crackdown, especially the narrator.
If someone said it was a 360 game I would not have batted an eyelid, never mind Scorpio.
The issue is even if the destructibility is completely on the MP side the SP is theoretically using the same engine and textures even with all the destruction if it still looks the same it's still a downgrade from the reveal.
howdyjacker
Member
I don't get it. How does this game look so much worse versus it's reveal? What the hell is going on with MS's game studios? Recore was rushed and unfinished, Scalebound cancelled, Fable Legend cancelled (and Lionhead shut down), and Sea of Thieves showing up 3 years in a row (and still not looking good).
Starting to think it's not the developers but rather MS fucking up all their first party efforts.
Starting to think it's not the developers but rather MS fucking up all their first party efforts.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
https://mobile.twitter.com/crackdown/status/874039116626657280
Want more Crackdown? We aren't done. What you saw today was merely a Campaign trailer. More footage to come through the week.
Want more Crackdown? We aren't done. What you saw today was merely a Campaign trailer. More footage to come through the week.
WickedLaharl
Member
Looks good and I'm glad it's coming out this year.
MikeE21286
Member
That pic looks awesome
Merely? Weird choice of word for what should be a significant part of a game.
Guess MP is where it's at for this game?
Dee Dah Dave
Member
Graphics look fine, it's always been a stylised game. And looks miles better than the 360 game lol.
sooperkool
Member
They didn't have the announcer either, I guess by you guys' standards it doesn't have one.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Ever since I've been hoping it would look like that ingame. A fucking first party game...... yeahbi cant deny being extremely disappointed.
WhupTroyGAF
Member
The thing about clouds....they tend to clear out.
My guess is they're scrambling to pull together some footage after the lukewarm response to just a bunch a fast clips of running and explosions. They should have showed off the scope of the city, how gangs work, upgrades, abilities...I don't understand how the trailer we got was approved.
Zeuanimals
Member
sure i can see the point but no destruction at all in sp? also i am talking about graphics in general its a flagship exclusive on the most powerful(most expensive) console, i guess i expected more
Pretty sure we saw destruction, just on a much smaller scale.
Microsoft just confirmed on the YouTube stream that Sumo is making the campaign only, which is what we saw today.
Dave Jones' team is currently working on the "cloud-powered competitive multiplayer experience", which is what we've seen up until today.
Sounds like they're basically two separate games in one.
Dave Jones' team is currently working on the "cloud-powered competitive multiplayer experience", which is what we've seen up until today.
Sounds like they're basically two separate games in one.
immortald3ath
Member
so 4k/30 fps confirmed for xbox one x
Ok so that is how it is working. Crackdown 3 is the Sumo game and comes with a free copy of whatever the Crackdown MP is called. Then I wonder if they are using completely different engines? So is the MP just like an arena combat game or something?
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
I love the original Crackdown, but this looked like shit. The trailer made it even worse.
M_A_C
Member
30fps 4k for Xbox X confirmed on YouTube Live at E3
We've known this for a while. I'm confused why they didn't show both aspects of it today, especially since the MP stuff was supposed to be ready to go into beta last year. My gut reaction is development troubles, but I guess we'll learn soon enough.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Exactly man. I totally expected them to show us a lengthy gameplay demo like Shadow of War and ACO had, but..... nope.
Well then I hope we get to see MP this week then. Here I was actually hoping the SP to look awesome and be fun. Although I can't judge the latter yet of course.
Platinum_D
Member
They just announced it is 30FPS
CamHostage
Member
To be fair, that first trailer (which I think that pic is from) was a rendered teaser; the actual in-game (which was at Gamescom that same year) has more of a similar look to the current build, though debate as seen fit.
E3 2015 TRAILER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EdYuz2UT2o
GAMESCOM 2015 TRAILER
https://youtu.be/Ge3PQ2nQM4Q?t=88
LIVE DEMO 2015:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWANLy9TjRc
TRAILER FOR E3 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDztIIhfDWg
Two things out of these videos to mention. One, yes, they did consistently refer to the destruction as being part of a "revolutionary multiplayer experience using 100% destructible environments", but they never said that this was for MP deathmatch only and that SP would be something wholly different; to me they made it sound like it was a co-op game (which I was expecting anyway out of Crackdown) with buildings falling down.
And second was, they had Crews in the new trailer say "forget dropping bombs, you're dropping buildings!", but then showed the SP mode, which showed (and may have) zero buildings being dropped.
So even if MP has the destruction still, I don't think it's unfair to feel like gamers have been misled by the Crackdown 3 hype about super-cool destruction.
Tsk tsk. Some of us are going to take your use of "merely" the wrong way, Crackdown staffer...
Aceofspades
Banned
Where was the destruction?
I saw 2 cars explode! Innovative!
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
I can't believe after years of nothing this is what we get. At a loss.
The original Crackdown was mediocre. A lifeless open world with a barely-there story and poor mission structure saved completely by the leveling system and dumb fun combat options. The second one was just as bad, if not worse because it shared the exact same map.
Some of you guys are exaggerating how much worse this one looks. It looks fine and it should go without saying that it looks much better visually than the Xbox 360 original.
Some of you guys are exaggerating how much worse this one looks. It looks fine and it should go without saying that it looks much better visually than the Xbox 360 original.
Sounds like it.
To be honest, I wonder if the original pitch came around with the original vision of the Xbox One. I suspect Sumo was brought on to provide an additive offline experience to complement the original cloud-powered vision of the game which we're getting with it.
Novel Mike
Member
I said it was Blast Processing all over again when it was first brought up by Microsoft.
That said, I liked the trailer, not going to buy the game but it looked fun enough.
FaintColt388301
Member
Shows how fake everything was years ago if they couldn't give anything close that resembles that. What a let down from such a hyped game.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
As I posted in the other thread 5 mins on state of decay and 2 mins on crackdown. This game is being sent to die. The trailer was awful.
SocksAndShoes
Banned
What in the fuck are they doing? This is embarrassing for MS.
Pathfinder
Member
Who says it's fake?
Triggerhappytel
Member
Yeah, I wasn't aware of Sumo being involved in this before I saw their name in the trailer. No sign of Cloudgine either (Dave Jones' studio). It's all very odd. Sumo seem to be the team you call if your game has crashed & burned elsewhere.
Edit - actually wrong about that; it does still mention them on the game's website.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
There were 4 agents running together and it looked like shit no matter what. Stop making excuses for them.