Imp the Dimp
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I beat Ludwig on my second try but I have god gifted skills
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Orochinagis
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You are fighting Ludwig at his prime, second boss is not even using it weapons.
If you have Vit below 35 Ludwig will one shot you often since most of his attacks have high chances to be a crit
Super Stardust
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Orphan of Kos is easily the worst boss in the souls series. I could only beat him by summoning two other players, I tried helping other people beat him after but everyone kept dieing.
Really? I think he's one of the best bosses, both thematically and how the fight plays out in phase1 and 2. He also has one of the best arenas when you take him to the sea, which people should do as the lightning move in phase 2 emanates from the corpse of kos. He has very few lingering hitboxes, good but fast telegraphs and can be both parried and backstabbed. I guess it's just different priorities in what people look for in boss fights. I don't want them to be difficult for difficulty sake but for them to be fair, which I believe orphan is.
However, I acknowledge what can be fair to one person can be incredibly unfair to another depending on build, playstyle and the amount experience a person has with souls games. Glad that these games have the summoning system and that you beat him regardless
Super Stardust
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His phase 1 was good but as soon as his health drops half way it's a whole new game. But I seem to struggle against the human bosses more than the giant ones, martyr logarius and father g where the only others ones I had trouble with but Kos was insane.Really? I think he's one of the best bosses, both thematically and how the fight plays out in phase1 and 2. He also has one of the best arenas when you take him to the sea, which people should do as the lightning move in phase 2 emanates from the corpse of kos. He has very few lingering hitboxes, good but fast telegraphs and can be both parried and backstabbed. I guess it's just different priorities in what people look for in boss fights. I don't want them to be difficult for difficulty sake but for them to be fair, which I believe orphan is.
However, I acknowledge what can be fair to one person can be incredibly unfair to another depending on build, playstyle and the amount experience a person has with souls games. Glad that these games have the summoning system and that you beat him regardless
Tons of people ringing their bells at the lighthouse hut lamp, seems like plenty of people are struggling with this guy.
Red Liquorice
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I think OoK is one of the hardest bosses in the series for me, but I don't think that makes him the worst - it makes me the worst lol. No seriously, I usually fight this guy when overleveled, and that's probably meant I've never learned how to deal with his manic second phase properly, so that's my fault, but I think he is one of the best bosses of the series in terms of the fight, the design and story etc.
Here For The Free Feed
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i never had too many problems with ludwig & orphan and have beaten them both solo at one stage or another
laurence tho, hardest souls boss for me without doubt.
laurence tho, hardest souls boss for me without doubt.
Super Stardust
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I thought Laurence was easy, ludwigs holy blade destroys him.
Imp the Dimp
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Defiled Amygdala is the hardest boss if you don't cheese
Orochinagis
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Well, there is no window after its jumping phase, I tried
Red Liquorice
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I started my first Arcane run last week and I'm just up to Yahagul. I really recommend getting the Firesprayer from Gilbert (or buying it). I've put all my stat points into Arcane so far and am at 55. The firesprayer ripped through Amelia (no surprise there, she goes down in 10-15 seconds normally any way). But I also used it on Rom and the Firesprayer is +8 it was a total joke. I used an oil urn and then a couple of bone marrow ash and she didn't even get chance to teleport once! The Executioner's Gloves took care of Amygdala and SoY in very short time too. A bit boring to stay at distance and just pew-pew, but not a playstyle I've ever really done before in BB.
I have to say, I think Arcane is easy mode so far. It's quite fun, but I wish there was a more elegant way of equiping and using spells - much like in Souls, I've always found equiping several spells to one button and then cycling through to be very cumbersome especially in the heat of the battle - Maybe something like equipping a catalyst (in the gun slot say) and then holding down L2 and then pressing another button would give more options.
I'll probably in a minority but I found the Pthumeran Descendant way more annyoing and cheaper than Orphan.
PD is human-like, aka parryable, except only 1 or 2 of his 7 or so attacks trigger the parry so you are there just moving around like an idiot while the mother fucker spams attacks and charges the whole time towards you, all while you waste your bullets. fuck him.
Last phase Orphan is art in videogame form, you see fireworks, you hear screams, you don't know whether to run or attack or heal or WTF you should do. When you win though, you can be proud of yourself.
try the whirligig Saw level 10, a world of pain awaits Laurence with that weapon
LockOfTheWeek
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Pretty hype for potential new Bloodborne sweetness soon, prob won't get it so I don't want to get my hopes up too much tho.
Jack Scofield
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I would LOVE for them to announce Bloodborne 2 but I don't think it's happening, sadly.
LockOfTheWeek
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I would LOVE for them to announce Bloodborne 2 but I don't think it's happening, sadly.
Yeah I think that's prob likely, and in a way I'm not super bothered by it even tho I'd like new content associated with it. If we never got another one and got an awesome new FROM ip that'd be dope, too.
Valkerionseven
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Feel like if Bloodborne 2 is happening it would get leaked hard lol. I don't believe something like that could be held under wraps.
I find myself in the Nightmare of Mensis around level 60 to 65, and I am getting destroyed pretty badly. Is this right? I feel like I skipped some areas. I've seen talk of Upper Cathedral Ward, Cainhurst (?), and Nightmare Frontier, but apparently I've missed those areas. Is it worth going back, or should I push forward into the Nightmare?
Na you should be fine. I just ran through there with my current character at that level.
Red Liquorice
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Nightmare Froniter will probably be very easy for you now, but the other two should be on your level. All those areas you mentioned are accessible at this point though.
High bloodtinge and transformed bowblade shit over both Amygdalas.
Pure melee though? Yeah.
Are the enemies giving you trouble or enemies combined with Frenzy?
Imp the Dimp
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I was pure melee and was frankly overmatched in a non-cheese toe to to fight.
If you truly go aggressive against OoK, it's one of the best fights in the game imho. The correct mix of reflex, tension, panic-control and vial management. You can't parry him to death (well maybe you can but that didn't work for me).
I went in on him with an un-transformed bowblade. No reach so I had to stay really close. It ended up making the fight incredible.
edit: Should point out the above is to the second phase. First phase was the opposite for me. Kept my distance and waited for parry opportunities (the running uppercut and 2-handed overhand slam).
I've never solo'd her with a pure melee but yeah, non-cheese is probably pretty damn difficult. It's the god damn reach. I don't even think the jump is the hardest part.
Imp the Dimp
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Jumping is how you cheese him actually. If you stand still the moment he jumps, he will 100% always land with his head next to you, so just charge your weapon once he jumps and hit him when he comes down. I tried to fight him legitimately and got embarrassed. 75% of his attack straight up 1 shot me with 50 points in health (or whatever the attribute was called).
Yeah I'm aware of how the cheese works but I think that simply avoiding his jumps without cheesing him is possible (like you're trying). I've never been able to do it on a melee build though (might try on my next playthrough).
Charging through an area runs counter to how I approach these games, but I am finding that Bloodborne has a way of subverting expectations including my previous Souls play-style.
I've dealt with the frenzy by stacking frenzy resistant runes and using the Hunter outfit (it has the highest frenzy resistance of all the gear I have). I'm ashamed to admit it, but it's those damn worms that do me in every time.
I know how to get to Upper Cathedral Ward, but I am surprised I missed Cainhurst Castle and Nightmare Frontier. I don't even know how to get to those places.
Orphan of Kos is the worst nightmare. I finally had to revive my first character from release (from before release day!!) and I stopped with him at Ludwig because I was already in NG+ and I was just too weak. Level 110, with Kirkhammer back then. Upgraded to +10 (in my first run there weren't any guides for the rocks and all on the internet, so I only had a +9 weapon). Got the Whirling Saw to +10 too and also had the cap stats of 40 endurance, 40 strength etc.
Only needed 64 tries for Ludwig, but Orphan of Kos? Forget it. Maria was one of the easiest bosses of the game for me though.
Only needed 64 tries for Ludwig, but Orphan of Kos? Forget it. Maria was one of the easiest bosses of the game for me though.
Albino_Yeti
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Wewwww I'm playing through on NG+ and I am once again stuck on Orphan of Kos.
I've gotten to the point where I can literally get through phase 1 without getting hit thanks to visceral attacks, but once he sprouts those wings and goes into phase 2 I usually get my ass kicked. I've come close a few times but I haven't beaten him yet.
I'm still surprised I beat him on the first playthrough.
I've gotten to the point where I can literally get through phase 1 without getting hit thanks to visceral attacks, but once he sprouts those wings and goes into phase 2 I usually get my ass kicked. I've come close a few times but I haven't beaten him yet.
I'm still surprised I beat him on the first playthrough.
PensivePen
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How do you guys adjust your brightness setting for this game? Despite playing through it something like ten times I've never been able to set it in a way that I was happy with. If I follow the in-game brightness instructions and adjust my tv settings until the beast is invisible then the I get all sorts of black crush.Most other games I play on PS4 are fine at default or near default settings, but Bloodborne has such an abnormal brightness slider.
I have my in-game brightness set to the lowest setting. I am playing on an LG B6 OLED display with the display brightness set to 50 (default), display black level set to "full", and PS4 black level set to "full". I can still see the beast, but just barely. This seems to be working well for me thus far.
Oh I didn't mean that I literally ran through it, just that I do finished it at that level.
The worms are some of the most annoying things in the game. An unnecessary cheap enemy, if I have to be honest. If I recall correctly, you can prevent them spawning from the white wolves is by either killing with a visceral or with fire.
Cainhurst is one of the most obtuse areas in the game to access. I'm sure someone can explain to you why the item you need to access it appears where it does and make it all seem ok but I honestly think it was a bit too hidden.
You're going to kick yourself once you realize where Nightmare Frontier is. Hint: Which door of the Lecture Hall did you exit from to get to Nightmare of Mensis?
Red Liquorice
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The worms are annoying - I don't think I've ever tried killing them with bullets or molotovs though - maybe there's an easier way than pure melee? I do recommend not locking on for melee though, and pointing the camera down - an old trick for small/weird enemy hitboxes from a long time rapier user in Souls!
Oh really? I know one can finish a Souldborne game at pretty much any level, but for some reason, I thought 60 to 70 was too low for the final area of the game.
The worms are some of the most annoying things in the game. An unnecessary cheap enemy, if I have to be honest. If I recall correctly, you can prevent them spawning from the white wolves is by either killing with a visceral or with fire.
Cainhurst is one of the most obtuse areas in the game to access. I'm sure someone can explain to you why the item you need to access it appears where it does and make it all seem ok but I honestly think it was a bit too hidden.
You're going to kick yourself once you realize where Nightmare Frontier is. Hint: Which door of the Lecture Hall did you exit from to get to Nightmare of Mensis?
Oh I bet it was the second floor door? Or was it the first? Regardless, I didn't realize that "exit to the outside" (as the prompt states) went to two different places.
I did find my way to Cainhurst and it is certainly weird how you get there. I have to admit, it is one of my favorite level though. The way it twists and turns on itself reminds me a lot of Dark Souls, and I absolutely loved that game. I'm on Logarius now. The guy is a real pain.
Thanks for the tip. Hard to break from the habit of locking on, but I will try this.
60-70 is about where you should be I'd say considering the DLC is reccomended to be 80-90 and considered the last bit of content to do. On the bright side, you can use the pigs and shadows of yarnham to level up super quickly if you want to grind a bit.
personal opinion, but I'd leave DLC for 110-130
first-timers with low levels is probably the reason why we continue seeing people giving up on the DLC bosses.
Opus Angelorum
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That was going to be my next question. At what point during my first play through is it appropriate to start the DLC? I just wrapped up Cainhurst with the aide of the Beckoning Bell. I have three options at this point, 1) Nightmare of Mensis, 2) The Old Hunters DLC, or 3) Nightmare Frontier and Upper Cathedral Ward.
Red Liquorice
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DLC is late game area to me, at least on a first run - these days I go there for a loot clean up and lamp lighting as soon as I get access. I would say do it after Yahargul or Mensis since by then you should have at least +8 or 9 weapon and that's fair for the DLC I think.
You are probably overleveled for Nightmare Frontier btw by now, you can do that quite easily by the time you get access to it (Forbidden Woods).
You are probably overleveled for Nightmare Frontier btw by now, you can do that quite easily by the time you get access to it (Forbidden Woods).
Leave DLC for last.
its first area is nasty, enemies are very agressive with several hunters on your path to the first boss.
In fact if you are underleveled or aren't very good at playing this game, the very first enemy is a hunter that will very likely kick your butt.
if I remember correctly, Ludwig is the first boss and has to be beaten to progress in the DLC.
As has been extensively discussed in the last two pages Ludwig is easily harder than anything you've fought til now.
before attempting beating him:
-. have a max level weapon, don't even bother without one (IMO)
- plan your set-up (runes, armor etc)
-. get good, have quick reflexes and don't mess up button presses in the heat of the fight.
Opus Angelorum
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Thanks for all the advice with Ludwig guys, but still no luck.
Over 100 attempts now, and within those I've only gotten to the second phase maybe 15 times.
Used all my vials (had 800+ before my first attempt), and it's actually annoying me now. The fun of the challenge to beat him as gone.
I'm going to trade the game in and just let it go, really enjoyed the main game but the DLC left a sour taste.
Over 100 attempts now, and within those I've only gotten to the second phase maybe 15 times.
Used all my vials (had 800+ before my first attempt), and it's actually annoying me now. The fun of the challenge to beat him as gone.
I'm going to trade the game in and just let it go, really enjoyed the main game but the DLC left a sour taste.
dude, if you made it to the 2nd phase, then what happens there??
ludiwg goes slow mode and you just have to stay around him to avoid the beam of his sword, his 2nd phase is probably easier than many maingame bosses.
from all my deaths (I assume I had anything between 40-50) I died 95%of the time in the first phase, I am pretty sure I killed him on my 3th or 4th time I made it to the 2nd phase.
what's you weapon and runes?
also, don't waste vials and items, save on PS+ or on a memory stick and reload.
I've summoned more than I would like to admit, but in the long run, I will be happier for having completed the game.
Opus Angelorum
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I can't summon him for some reason, do I need PS+ or something?
Red Liquorice
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You need to equip the rune he gives you to summon him iirc. There are two summons near Ludwig though - one where there's an armour set to loot where one of the big guys walks from, and the other down the steps next to the lamp where the crystal lizard is.
Albino_Yeti
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Came back today after a few days break. First thing I did was go fight Orphan, going into the fight my mindset was "let's just see how far I can get this time for shits and giggles, then go do something else."
Ended up beating him on that attempt looool
Ended up beating him on that attempt looool
The_eJoker
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Guys, I'm playing Bloodborne for the 1st time and I'm having a blast.
However, I think I screwed over. I'm at the Forbidden Woods, right after the windmill where you face those snake guys for the 1st time.
I know that going right after that windmill you'll encounter an elevator that takes you to a lamp. Problem is I fell down from the elevator and now I can't get It down.
That means that I lost that shortcut forever? Hope Not, please help.
However, I think I screwed over. I'm at the Forbidden Woods, right after the windmill where you face those snake guys for the 1st time.
I know that going right after that windmill you'll encounter an elevator that takes you to a lamp. Problem is I fell down from the elevator and now I can't get It down.
That means that I lost that shortcut forever? Hope Not, please help.
There should be a lever somewhere in the area to call it down. There always is.
Edit: Just checked to make sure. Yeah, you're fine. You have to go to the shortcut again, but there is a lever right at the entrance. Use it and it'll come back.
The_eJoker
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I tried the Lever yesterday and It said that the device was not operable. Gonna teu again later, thanks!