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Diablo 3 - Necromancer Pack - June 27th - $14.99
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Fascinating Blizzard drone feedback
This is the first thing I thought as well.
ElfArmy177
Member
Oh POE releases June 27th? I didn't know it was so soon
FrontalMonk
Banned
So long as we're going there, PoE plays like absolute fucking garbage but GGG drones are too fascinated by map dungeons and passive trees to give a shit.
D3 isn't the be all end all, but the PoE fanboys crawling into every fucking Diablo thread for years is fucking tiring. We get it, you like PoE more than D3.
"Blizzard Drone" - sorry, but LOTS of people don't enjoy Path of Exile. Diablo 3 is a fantastic game, the notion that someone would prefer it (seemingly many people) being reduced to "LOL blizz drone" is ridiculous. Could just as easily call you a PoE drone, it would be just as pedantic then.
Call me when PoE actually becomes fun to play.
PoEs new content is cool, but face it. Everyone's going to run it once then just plow through it asap to get to mapping. At least D3 cuts out the BS and just lets you go straight to rifts/bounties in seasons.
blurredvision
Member
I don't understand why people complain about the $15. You know exactly what you're getting if you buy it, which means you want to play as the Necromancer, which means you're likely going to sink many, many hours into playing through and leveling one. For $15? That's chump change.
Flintty
Member
On the money. I just sat on an 8 hr flight from London to Washington DC and it was surreal playing BotW to pass the time. Diablo would have been even better. A perfect time dump.
theonerayman
Member
Played the game on PC at launch, with the real money auction house and all. But I still enjoyed the game. Been playing UEE on ps4 since it launched and finally got the Plat today (needed to do the bounties) it's my first and only platinum trophy on a game and it's only the second game I've ever got all the achievements in (1st was halo reach on 360). Yes its 15 bucks but blizzard has added TONS of things to the came for 100% free since it launched. I have zero issues giving them 15 dollars to help support them and show that I want them to keep making content.
From every diablo game i played..i really never played it for the story. Sure the story is there even for a brief moment it is fun. But at it's core it is ARPG, it is about killing demons and getting awesome loot.
But consider this the amount of hours people and even me have played it in Adventure Mode because there is the meat of the game and that's what everyone plays. Sure i want a new act to evolve some more lore but same with RoS came out i went through that Act once and never touched it again.
Having random generated rifts with various types of monsters,elites and bosses all with different affixes every time keeps me engaging. I played all classes played more than 1000 hours since RoS came out.
And they are adding more free content with patch 2.6 and they continue to add free content every..single patch, they added the armory one of the most requested features to have different builds with all your gear/gems/abilities being stored and being used for whatever you want.
Like i said i played PoE..for a indie game it can be fun but to me the combat is such a lackluster i do not feel any impact. That game is just not for me but good for others having fun with it.
The amount of complaining here for others you don't like, don't buy it since it will not have influence when you are playing with friends. For me i will get my hours worth out of it and fuck it is totally new class to dig in and try new builds and other stuff.
Maybe Im part of the problem, but Ill be buying Day 1. Cant wait to play Necro!!
BLIZZARD DRONE!!!! APPLE SHEEP!!!! FANDROIDS!!!! Stop buying what you enjoy and only buy what I LIKE!!!
BLIZZARD DRONE!!!! APPLE SHEEP!!!! FANDROIDS!!!! Stop buying what you enjoy and only buy what I LIKE!!!
Unknown Soldier
Member
Remember when Blizzard games had expansion packs like:
Warcraft II: Beyond the Dark Portal
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction
Starcraft: Brood War
Hell, even Diablo III had Reaper of Souls.
But I guess now the way forward is Activision Call of Duty style DLC for games instead of the classic Blizzard expansion pack. $15 for a new class, yikes. It was only $30 for Reaper of Souls at release.
Warcraft II: Beyond the Dark Portal
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Diablo II: Lord of Destruction
Starcraft: Brood War
Hell, even Diablo III had Reaper of Souls.
But I guess now the way forward is Activision Call of Duty style DLC for games instead of the classic Blizzard expansion pack. $15 for a new class, yikes. It was only $30 for Reaper of Souls at release.
Yup I fully agree, It is completely frustrating
I don't think they are going away. There will still be expansions just something like this seems like it was for another expansion that got cancelled.
GamingGAF towards corporate greed in a game they aren't particularly interested in - "vote with your wallet, guys"
GamingGAF towards corporate greed in a game they are interested in - "I just like different things than you, grow up! Oh and btw, I might be being a total stinker here but DAY ONE!!! LOL!!! <trollface.jpg>"
And so, we all continue our race to the bottom.
A single D3 patch has more free content added to the game than all of those games combined did. The best part is that you're complaining about the lack of expansion packs IN A THREAD ABOUT A GAME THAT HAS AN EXPANSION PACK.
Literally every game Blizzard has ever made has an expansion except for Overwatch, which is a year old, and HOTS, which is free. (Hearthstone if you dont' want to count card sets, but given the type of game that is that seems silly)
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Did Beyond the Dark Portal even add any new units/spells/mechanics? I know it added the draenor mapsets and the campaigns, but it's been so long since I've played that game that I can't remember what else it had.
This isn't a rhetorical "lol see that expansion had no content" post, btw. I'ts more about how expansions back then had a different focus than today.
This isn't a rhetorical "lol see that expansion had no content" post, btw. I'ts more about how expansions back then had a different focus than today.
That's what I feel, as well. Maybe they are trying to start development on Diablo IV, but are experimenting with the previous game to see where to approach content distribution?
Replying to a thread about a DLC that youre excited about, and stating that you are indeed excited about it, is hardly a trollface worthy thing. I added the bit about maybe Im part of the problem simply because there are a few in here who are acting almost offended that I and others like me would dare to purchase this entirely optional thing.
Considering all of the free support theyve given the game, Id hardly call this being greedy, anyway.
No, just the new heroes and the draenor tileset, with the campaigns. Which were awesome, yet based on this thread you'd think it was a horrid ripoff.
Chittagong
Gold Member
Would you mind elaborating a bit, why is adding a new class hard?
1 - Edit power / stamina / strength / mana etc. parameters
2 - Create new sprite
3 - Test and balance parameters
I might be ignorant, but why is that as hard as creating new missions / maps (which usually release for $14.99)?
I feel the same way and I want to enjoy PoE, but it really feels so behind the times. It does a lot of things I would love to see in Diablo, but the skill tree and the sluggish stuck in the past gameplay feel is not one of it.
Necromancer Pack likely exists because the second D3 X-Pack (seen on marketing calendars years ago) got cancelled.
Honest question, have you played a Diablo game beyond the first one?
You kind of forgot the most important part, which is the 30+ abilities that have to be designed, with 6 variations (runes) apiece, with the 30+ passives. Literally the entire important feature that make characters different from one another.
There also aren't 'sprites' in 3d games, the amount of art required to add a new class with two genders is pretty fucking massive. You're talking about a game with like 100 different armor set graphics you've got to make, which are unique per class even if the items are the same.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Oh yeah, I forgot it added the buffed unique units like Hellscream.
TharpDaddy
Member
That's a kinda steep price but i'll pick it up, i've been feeling the itch for some Diablo lately, and jumping into it with a new, cool-looking class sounds fun.
NullPointer
Member
Agreed.
I'd like them to keep adding stuff too, so my purchase might send that signal as well.
Chittagong
Gold Member
Thanks for the explanation.
Diablo 3 was my first Diablo.
Completed it once alone, and then the second time as coop. A third time harder on coop. A fourth time for RoS on PS4, harder on coop. But I didn't quite come to appreciate the depth I guess. I always have been baffled when I read people have sunk hundreds of hours to D3, I never understood what more possibly they could do in it, but I guess I have been ignorant of the core of the game.
BossDarkseid
Member
I mean, creating a new kit vs creating new maps requires different skill sets so trying to talk about "difficulty" in creating them is an excercise in futility, but the idea that either is remotely easy and doesn't require a team of a thousand monkeys doing art, animations, programming, sound fx and so on....it's still a huge amount of work hours.
I feel like $14.99 ain't bad for a character pack that, is basically there for people who are probably gonna play the game for a few dozen more hours anyway, is a good price. It was a remnant of the canned 2nd Expansion where we were going to try and find out the fate of Leah's Soul, but ey oh. Diablo 4 will be Games as a Service - its the model I think all Blizz games going forward will probably be - but thats not to say things like Reaper of Souls and other expansions would not be welcome.
And you remarked you might be ignorant but, tbh, I kinda think "Why is adding a new class hard?" and then doing 3 bullet points (as if it is that simple) is...confirmation of that
in a good way tho.Edit: Beaten like a stick. ignore me.
I think that's hte big thing. 15 dollars even if you think it's too much for a character class in a game like this (I don't, but it's beside the point here), is a pittance for most people still playing D3 relative to how much they've added at no cost since RoS released. It's been 5 years since the game launched, and they've released a single expansion pack as far as additional paid content in the game. Everything else has been completely free. This is basically a B2P MMO with literally no monetization scheme, so they're trying to find something that works for Diablo.
It's not a fighting game, you don't need the character if you don't want to play it, you're still getting anything else for free, sow hat's the issue? if you ARE going to play the character, 15 dollars for hundreds of hours is a pretty damn good deal.
People really think it is all easy and done, it took nearly a year to make the necromancer and i think there will be a patch to balance things out of there talents a long the way same goes with every other class.
Seems unlikely the Necromancer is a direct result of that. Most of what was made for the expansion 2 was released for free in patches 2.1, 2.2, 2.3 and 2.4 (Kanai's Cube, Ruins of Secheron, that forest island, the Vault, the Guild Hideout area). Free, because apparently Blizzard's boss thought they owed it to the players. This was quite long ago.
http://diablo.wikia.com/wiki/Diablo_III:_The_King_in_the_North
Considering how long it has taken to release the Necromancer, i'm inclined to believe the Necromancer development started shortly before last year's Blizzcon, as a stop-gap content before Diablo 4.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
I'd have been willing to pay maybe 7 or 8 bucks for the necro, 15 seems a bit steep, it'll never go on sale though which is a shame.
You get a lot of really random stuff with this pack though I feel like blizzard knew that people wouldn't have been willing to pay 15 just for one character.
It's a shame, I really enjoy playing d3 but the first bit of major content it gets is almost half the cost of an expansion pack and doesn't really offer a lot. A new class is only enough to really get me to come back to d3 for maybe a week of the new season.
You get a lot of really random stuff with this pack though I feel like blizzard knew that people wouldn't have been willing to pay 15 just for one character.
It's a shame, I really enjoy playing d3 but the first bit of major content it gets is almost half the cost of an expansion pack and doesn't really offer a lot. A new class is only enough to really get me to come back to d3 for maybe a week of the new season.
Why won't it ever go on sale?
Psychoward
Banned
Is being a blizzard drone just not liking path of exile now lol?
I appreciate the niche it carved but it plays like poop and I hate the overbearing mmo-light structure they took with online, naming, chat etc.
The only loot arpg I haven't played yet is grim dawn (and that seems to be really good) but all of the other recent ones I've tried (torchlight 1 and 2, Victor vran, PoE, destiny/borderlands games) don't come close imo and considering the rest of the stuff that was added to the game, $15 isn't too bad.
Also borderlands charges for extra classes with much less effort than what goes in to a Diablo class and I literally never saw complaints about that.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
I forgot to say probably, and it's because blizzard stuff that isn't the base game almost never goes on sale
Maybe, but I find it highly unlikely there wasn't a new class planned for another expansion anyways, even if it wasn't far along in development.
SpiceMelange
Member
Yeah I was expecting $30+. $15 is a nice surprise (for me).
The game has been numerous of times on sale..less than a few months ago it was on sale, like you are saying blizzard never does this and yet they do.
I assume he meant the Necromancer specifically. Does Blizzard ever run sales for their WoW pets and mounts and stuff?
Sure, but considering the amount of potential classes (either from Diablo series, or archetypal ones not represented, or anything else), the planned class being the Necromancer seems unlikely. IIRC, Blizzard mentioned the Druid was a candidate for the first "character pack".
I would assume they never got far enough to settle definitively to any one class for expansion 2.
Interestingly, the Druid would've fit the Greyhollow Island, kinda, i guess. And maybe Secheron too, i have vague recollection that the Druids of Sactuary are kinda related to the Barbarians.
They have, yes.
Druid does seem more likely, there isn't really another class similar to druid in the way that the D3 classes take some inspiration from the D2 classes . They also name drop Skovos with the implication that something has happened there which could've hinted at an Amazon return but who knows if that was ever anything more than a fun reference. They've also had a Necro NPC in the game for a long time, since release even I think? Hard to say what they might've done.
And again yes they did less than a month ago orso and they will do it again.
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