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[Prelude.]

I don't even know why the laser build exists, if you wanna 1v1 why are you playing Azmo?

At lv1 the increased range of sieging wrath is almost always more valuable, imo.

Also I realized while trying out Lunara in a few games and just being miserable every time that I fucking HATE ranged AA heroes. Just can't stand any of them. I don't know how people play them or enjoy them. Lunara, Zul'jin, Raynor, Tychus (he at least has that spray ability that lets you move and shoot) - in the bin with all of them. I like ranged heroes with abilities fine (Li Ming is one of my favorites), but the AA ones I just can't stand to play.

Do you have attack move on quick cast?

 

[Rizzi]

Laser build is boring and doesn't let you dunk people from downtown.

 

[Dahbomb]

I don't even know why the laser build exists, if you wanna 1v1 why are you playing Azmo?

At lv1 the increased range of sieging wrath is almost always more valuable, imo.

Do you have attack move on quick cast?

You don't pick laser beam to 1v1, you do it to melt towers.

 

[Milly79]

Q is so trash baseline it sucks

 

[Human Trashcan]

Do you have attack move on quick cast?

No, can you explain this to me like I'm 5 / an idiot (one of those is true)?

 

[Prelude.]

You don't pick laser beam to 1v1, you do it to melt towers.

I don't know, the increased damage is at 13, doesn't seem that useful at that point, but I never tried it.

 

[Alur]

Dang. 14.99 for Necromancer in D3 update. Xul was cheaper. HOTS better game confirmed?

 

[Prelude.]

No, can you explain this to me like I'm 5 / an idiot (one of those is true)?

If you right click a spot on the map your character goes there ignoring everything around him, if you press A on that spot your character starts to move but stops and attacks as soon as an enemy is in range, without you having to target him. So, basically, when you use AA heroes, you want to use attack move to deal damage since by right clicking to move and Aing to attack you can, well, attack move/stutter step which is a way to output more dps and being more mobile than just right clicking on a target and let the hero auto attack on his own. Stutter stepping is pretty much mandatory on fast AA heroes or you're not using them right.

By default, in order to attack move, you need to press A and then m1 on the map, like in Starcraft, but if you put A on quick cast you remove the extra step of left clicking.

Attack moving doesn't prioritize heroes, though, so if there's an enemy in the middle of a wave you still need to click on him or you're gonna attack the closest minion instead.

If that doesn't make sense, watch these videos.
https://youtu.be/pg3cCSTb_6M
https://youtu.be/QtrUd1Unvho

 

[Milly79]

No, can you explain this to me like I'm 5 / an idiot (one of those is true)?

I'm not sure what he means about A move on quick cast because I never used A move as my attack move. I will recommend to anyone to rebind it to right click and learn to left right stutter step.

Only downside is if you play Vikings you can't drag select them anymore.

 

[scoobs]

Dang. 14.99 for Necromancer in D3 update. Xul was cheaper. HOTS better game confirmed?

This was confirmed loooong before the Necro pack, but yes further proof.

I found the left/right click stutter step to be super awkward. I still use A move and right clicking individual targets and have found plenty of success, but to each their own.

 

[AbundantChoice]

This was confirmed loooong before the Necro pack, but yes further proof.

I found the left/right click stutter step to be super awkward. I still use A move and right clicking individual targets and have found plenty of success, but to each their own.

Yeah, the L/R thing messed me up hard, so I put Attack Move on my "side" mouse button that sits under my thumb and liked that setup (along with "mount" being on the tinier side button above that one)

 

[Human Trashcan]

I can't find attack move in hotkeys. I rebound my keys ages ago so AWSD move the camera (I have no clue how anyone plays this with default key mappings) so A is not attack move for me but I can't find it.

 

[Prelude.]

Watch the second video, it shows how to change it.

So, you have your abilities on your mouse?

 

[Dahbomb]

I just realized today that you can just hold down right click on the ground and just move from there without constantly clicking on the ground.

Mind blown!

 

[Rhaknar]

laser Azmo is actually super scary if you dont have stuns/silences. Which you many times dont in QM.

Playing Malth's slow ass so much lately made me retry Leoric and once I got over the slowness, he's actually pretty fun. Also, as with many heroes, quickcast for skillshots is a godsend (in this case for the creepy hand)

 

[kirblar]

laser Azmo is actually super scary if you dont have stuns/silences. Which you many times dont in QM.

Playing Malth's slow ass so much lately made me retry Leoric and once I got over the slowness, he's actually pretty fun. Also, as with many heroes, quickcast for skillshots is a godsend (in this case for the creepy hand)

Lazer Azmo has been an anti-Illidan tactic in the past cause he's so fat and that thing hurts.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

I just realized today that you can just hold down right click on the ground and just move from there without constantly clicking on the ground.

Mind blown!

very important for stealthoes as you can't accidentally hit minions this way.

 

[Orochinagis]

Lazer Azmo has been an anti-Illidan tactic in the past cause he's so fat and that thing hurts.

Also his Laser dont lose focus if valera goes invisible or use her invisible R, so funny to see her freak out and ran in circles on her smoke bomb

 

[Human Trashcan]

Watch the second video, it shows how to change it.

So, you have your abilities on your mouse?

Yeah it's 1-4 and they are on my mouse as well.

I set attack to LMB but it only moves when I'm not in range of anything to attack. As soon as I am, when I click LMB it doesn't move the character anymore, they just stand there and keep attacking. What am I doing wrong?

 

[Kioshen]

Dang. 14.99 for Necromancer in D3 update. Xul was cheaper. HOTS better game confirmed?

You get two bonus slot for your stash. Right there it's worth at least 15$. Having another class to choose from is the cherry on top.

I just realized today that you can just hold down right click on the ground and just move from there without constantly clicking on the ground.

Mind blown!

It's a nice QoL that is built-in in HotS. You can't do this as smooth in Dota 2.

 

[Prelude.]

Yeah it's 1-4 and they are on my mouse as well.

I set attack to LMB but it only moves when I'm not in range of anything to attack. As soon as I am, when I click LMB it doesn't move the character anymore, they just stand there and keep attacking. What am I doing wrong?

You still need to right click to move. Watch the video if it's not clear what you're supposed to do.

 

[Rhaknar]

Also his Laser dont lose focus if valera goes invisible or use her invisible R, so funny to see her freak out and ran in circles on her smoke bomb

are you sure about that? she should be untargetable so it should drop

 

[Human Trashcan]

You still need to right click to move. Watch the video if it's not clear what you're supposed to do.

ok I got it, I just couldn't tell if that was how it's intended to work or not. Still clunky, not sure why it works that way. This aint a warcraft 3 mod anymore, we can do better. we have the technology.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

ok I got it, I just couldn't tell if that was how it's intended to work or not. Still clunky, not sure why it works that way. This aint a warcraft 3 mod anymore, we can do better. we have the technology.

You're right, it's a Starcraft 2 mod

 

[Fancolors]

I wonder if we this is ever gonna get an engine update like Doto.

The SC2 engine hurts.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

I wonder if we this is ever gonna get an engine update like Doto.

The SC2 engine hurts.

Maybe when sc3 engine is done

 

[FieryBalrog]

What if I told you that HotS is SC3

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Damn Uther is broken I'm 4-1 With him in placements alone.

I'm winning with awful triple assassin comps because we just brawl the opponents to death with worse supports, which is all of them because I'm on Uther.

 

[kirblar]

Uther is far better designed now, but completely overtuned.

 

[Rhaknar]

Leoric is fun. He actually does a lot of dmg if you land those Ws. I see most people take the dmg at the end of the W, but I prefer the walk speed on W, noones getting away with that

 

[Ketch]

Uther is far better designed now, but completely overtuned.

Agreed. But I don't think he's that far off. Just decrease the heal amount slightly over multiple patches if necessary but I don't think it will take much.

 

[scoobs]

Ya... I just had an insane come back w/ Genji. 0 keeps left, enemies dancing in front our core, we had 14 kills they had 40+ kills. As they realized they couldn't kill the core quite yet from dancing so much, they tried to run so I dragonblade pentakill them, we get bottom boss, push their keep with it and I have dragonblade up again and we team wipe a second time, we win.

Genji totally balanced.

We won this fucking game. Look at my teammates. God damn people suck.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

7-3 in placements, 5-1 of those as Uther and placed in Gold 2 in the end. My MMR still too average.

Agreed. But I don't think he's that far off. Just decrease the heal amount slightly over multiple patches if necessary but I don't think it will take much.

I'd rather they tinker with the armour numbers.

 

[Rhaknar]

2 win streak with Leoric... but I'm dying so much. I know thats kinda his thing, but still, I feel like I'm feeding

Also entomb has that "why is noone focusing this target" problem that those types of ults have. It makes me sad

 

[scoobs]

2 win streak with Leoric... but I'm dying so much. I know thats kinda his thing, but still, I feel like I'm feeding

Tactical feeding.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

2 win streak with Leoric... but I'm dying so much. I know thats kinda his thing, but still, I feel like I'm feeding

Also entomb has that "why is noone focusing this target" problem that those types of ults have. It makes me sad

When I don't die as leoric I'm like... damn I am wasting his trait!

 

[brian!]

Itd be cool if they patched tass before hgc started

 

[Kioshen]

Too late for that. Unless they pre-tested a patch on the tournament servers they are probably running it full steam ahead on this. I wouldn't be surprised if they are running the next week-end of HGC on the same patch they did for MSB too.

 

[brian!]

oh shit yeah i didnt realize it began tomorrow lol

 

[Rizzi]

Quick match giving me Blackheart's Bay followed by Hanamura.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

damn missed brians stream.

 

[Prelude.]

This game keeps on giving. Some people can't see stealthies even when they're revealed.
You're Greymane and you can delete a Nova in a split second and you walk past her and keep chasing a D.Va.

 

[brian!]

damn missed brians stream.

I cant get it to work lol

 

[Altairre]

This game keeps on giving. Some people can't see stealthies even when they're revealed.
You're Greymane and you can delete a Nova in a split second and you walk past her and keep chasing a D.Va.

That game was pretty painful. Sylv always solo pushing, Greymane that can't see Nova and apparently doesn't know he can disengage so he ends up with 12 deaths and absolutely abysmal damage. Good times.

The Butcher game was fun on the other hand. MVP in my first game with him. It's great when people don't try to get away when the brand is on them. My deaths were pretty much only due to Nazeebo's zombie wall, that thing really fucks you as Butcher.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

I've had so many turnaround games recently. It's insane how quick you can turn an advantage upside down in this game.

OTOH I've started trolling a bit in QM not caring about wins at all. Like taking waveclear build w/ Leoric on BoE then staying in their base 24/7

I cant get it to work lol

At least I didn't miss anything.

 

[Altairre]

Nonsense! This game has no comeback mechanics.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

That joke is more than 2 years old already

 

[Altairre]

Because if this thread is known for anything it's the new and innovative jokes.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Leoric waveclear build is absolutely hilarious.

 

[Maledict]

Leoric waveclear build is absolutely hilarious.

Which one is that? The one that gives health and mana when minions die, larger sweep radius, the. Double sweep at 16?