Uhh, there's recoil in that footage. Someone must of not got the memo then and maybe they were testing no recoil at one point? It's amazing how the internet just runs rampant on one comment that may be wrong.
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What? Destiny 2 will have different recoil settings on PC.
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Uhh, there's recoil in that footage. Someone must of not got the memo then and maybe they were testing no recoil at one point? It's amazing how the internet just runs rampant on one comment that may be wrong.
Sora the Cat
Member
Still, why would the PC version have less recoil than console when you actually have more control with the mouse. It makes no sense, if anything PC should have more recoil.
Whether recoil is in, not in, modified or not (or even options, what the hell they decide at this point), Destiny 2 is starting to turn into a PR disaster. Lock these guys up until the game is released or something. Ever since E3, it has been nothing but face palm worthy PR statement after another with this game.
At this rate, Bungie/Activision will be doing more damage control by the time the damn thing comes out, than actually doing normal pre-launch PR shit. The silver lining is that they will not be selling a lie (what half the industry does nowadays), and just getting all the bad news out of the way. However, you would think these kind of announcements would have been made months ago...not so close to launch.
Oh well.
At this rate, Bungie/Activision will be doing more damage control by the time the damn thing comes out, than actually doing normal pre-launch PR shit. The silver lining is that they will not be selling a lie (what half the industry does nowadays), and just getting all the bad news out of the way. However, you would think these kind of announcements would have been made months ago...not so close to launch.
Oh well.
You guys... this is why I like Reddit better. People upvoted the gameplay that shows recoil instead of kneejerk bashing like what's happening here. Obviously, he was confused or said the wrong thing, because what he's describing is more something like aim assist. If you watch any of of the PC footage, there is obviously recoil.
That's not even remotely true. smh at comments like this.
... Destiny 2 will have crossplay?
josecitoxnyo
Member
Disagree, my point is, they will do anything to keep the casual concept first, that stupid recoil idea falls under that overall concept for them.
Same as expecting agressive AA like in the console version when you use a controller on PC, it will happen.
GAF is behind the times with forum plugins thingymijigs
franklyshankly
Member
No.
lol no people spreading fake news like always
KINGofCRA5H
Member
I, uh.... what?
If it's an opportunity to bash Destiny, they'll jump on it. Doesn't matter if there's truth or if they'd let it slide on another game.
FriskyrumX
Banned
This happens on Gaf all the time, it's nothing new, and it's sad really.
josecitoxnyo
Member
Indeed it is, Noseworthy's words should have been "it's got a more controllable recoil" than the console version.
It's amazing how hard it is for devs to explain something sometimes.
This is quite the struggle. The initial argument is still there, I added in an additional sentence at the beginning to clarify the argument.
Can you actually engage rather than wasting time with these arbitrary points?
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SimpleCRIPPLE
Member
I thought recoil was gone in all versions because it failed as a stat? Basically, the guns with vertical recoil were too heavily favored, which took away from diversity.
If recoil is still a thing on consoles, but not on PC, that's B.S.
If recoil is still a thing on consoles, but not on PC, that's B.S.
everyer
Member
Stop argument OK?
I don't really see there is anything that would make PC version fighting terrible...
Feedbacks from the E3 PC players are not shit.
Why there is always someone trying to find a reason "so that I will not buy this shit game"
http://i.imgur.com/4nFDvLe.gifv
I don't really see there is anything that would make PC version fighting terrible...
Feedbacks from the E3 PC players are not shit.
Why there is always someone trying to find a reason "so that I will not buy this shit game"
http://i.imgur.com/4nFDvLe.gifv
LordRaptor
Member
Its more like "This is why people who have obviously never played a game on a PC should probably not talk about the Pc as a gaming platform"
The Janitor
Member
How he plays games:
Pantaghana
Member
What do you mean? Like re-wording what guided games is? A video conference stating, from one of the developers, that a solo player can que up for a raid etc? Whether it is in or not, you have guys from Bungie going on record stating that it is NOT for raids/heroic content, rather just normal content. That is a contradiction right there.
How about the story elements about D1, and how they will be addressed? Oh they wont, according to Bungie, as they have no clue what to do with that material.
These are things that a lot of Destinty fans to not want to hear. And if you think that Bungie, since E3, was not a PR distaster, I implore you to look up youtube, twitter, instagram. People were not happy at all.
Add this to the mix, add it turns into a clusterfuck. Now these things can be address later, whatever. But currently, this info is out in the internet space, and it causes confusion and doubt to the general consumer (ones who try to do their research, not the die-hard destiny fans who will buy regardless). All you are seeing, then reading, then seeing again, is Bungie saying one thing, retract it, then clarify.
Say it correct the first time. The end.
franklyshankly
Member
I guess I just don't agree with that at all. You're right, mouse has more control. That's the appeal of using mouse. I don't want my mouse to be gimped extra hard to feel worse, then I might as well be playing with a controller.
As for leaving it the same, maybe I can see the argument. But I still don't think you can apply a totally linear "mouse has X control so it should have Y recoil" to the process.
If there's one thing I trust Bungie on, it is the gunplay. Of all the things to shit on Destiny for, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that aspect is bad.
johancruijff
Banned
just like House of the Dead
-MD-
Member
Needed a laugh this morning, thanks.
lolwut
I will say I'm looking forward to seeing what Destiny PVP is like without extreme autoaim. I know it's second nature for console FPS players to abuse autoaim/quick scoping for sniper rifles but it never made sense to me. I did fine in Crucible, but since Trials was pretty all about sniper bullshit and finding the ones with maximum autoaim, I rarely did well. Almost said never, but I've been to Mercury a couple times with GAF.
I'm not some master sniper in PC shooters either but at least it'll be more even ground.
I will say I'm looking forward to seeing what Destiny PVP is like without extreme autoaim. I know it's second nature for console FPS players to abuse autoaim/quick scoping for sniper rifles but it never made sense to me. I did fine in Crucible, but since Trials was pretty all about sniper bullshit and finding the ones with maximum autoaim, I rarely did well. Almost said never, but I've been to Mercury a couple times with GAF.
I'm not some master sniper in PC shooters either but at least it'll be more even ground.
GavinUK86
Member
Because the game has recoil. It's just a different amount than consoles.
secretanchitman
Member
Same here lol!
franklyshankly
Member
I'm also hoping snipers will be less prevalent given that you need to forego any other heavy/power weapon to use one. It will be a choice now, not a guaranteed default.
veloxStrix
Banned
There are plenty of games without recoil that do just fine. Overwatch has an absolutely negligible amount. Quake, Doom, etc. In reference to OP, I'm not sure how no recoil promotes camping or lowers the skill ceiling that much. When you lower recoil, movement skill raises to take its place.
Recoil in Destiny 1 was negligible to the point of being a stylistic choice anyways. Any weapons with bad recoil simply weren't used.
Probably wasn't going to happen either way. PC development is concurrent with Console development. Basically two separate games. Not to mention the other difficulties of cross-platform shooters.
You should write a book about the proper way to view a thread. People will love it.
Recoil in Destiny 1 was negligible to the point of being a stylistic choice anyways. Any weapons with bad recoil simply weren't used.
Probably wasn't going to happen either way. PC development is concurrent with Console development. Basically two separate games. Not to mention the other difficulties of cross-platform shooters.
You should write a book about the proper way to view a thread. People will love it.
Can someone explain this to me? Because I'm not sure what we are talking about right now.
Are we talking about Recoil being the animation when you're shooting, and just being a first-person animation giving the immersion you're shooting with a real gun?
Or are we talking about Recoil as Bloom, or the AIM moving when you're shooting with your weapon, where you have to control it and fight against, simulating what a real recoil would be with a gun in real life?
Because, I'm not a PC player, I only play like Half Life, Quake and CS sometimes, and I'm more into Halo if we're talking about FPS games, and while there is a recoil animation, there is no real recoil you have to fight against in Halo, which I really like, even if it would be okay with a controller.
But with a mouse, I would feel frustrated if my AIM was moving like shit when I was firing.
Are we talking about Recoil being the animation when you're shooting, and just being a first-person animation giving the immersion you're shooting with a real gun?
Or are we talking about Recoil as Bloom, or the AIM moving when you're shooting with your weapon, where you have to control it and fight against, simulating what a real recoil would be with a gun in real life?
Because, I'm not a PC player, I only play like Half Life, Quake and CS sometimes, and I'm more into Halo if we're talking about FPS games, and while there is a recoil animation, there is no real recoil you have to fight against in Halo, which I really like, even if it would be okay with a controller.
But with a mouse, I would feel frustrated if my AIM was moving like shit when I was firing.
franklyshankly
Member
That was never going to happen regardless.
Recoil is the gun moving and spread is the accuracy of the bullets both of which usually make no sense in games
ethomaz
Banned
Thank god for that.
Playing against PC users with cheaters will be the same mess of Borderlands.
I agree, I don't want Elite Controller users destroying me.
Backfoggen
Banned
The only thing I'm not concerned about with Destiny 2 is that the shooting won't be good.
From what I saw of those E3 videos is that it looked really easy on M+KB.
Spread was the word I was looking for. Thanks!
