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Formula 1 2017 Season |OT| Japanese Horror Story - Sundays on Sky
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FrankCanada97
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He always had the skills in him, I think earlier in the season he let the pressures of having his every move put under the microscope get him. On the topic of his weird accent, it certainly isn't a normal Canadian or Quebecois accent. It reminds me of an acquaintance who went to the UN School. It must be common amongst people who had a more "worldly" education.
Alonso needs another Brazilian chair moment again this season with everything that's happened.
VER said it was a technical issue or something.
He was twitchy in his steering and seemed to lack confidence in his car control.
The first points in Canada probably boosted his confidence a LOT.
In a normal race this would have been a solid 9th/10th place performance like in Canada so it's not like he suddenly transcended, but there's a chance now that he'll keep up with old man Massa.
xrnzaaas
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Oh my gosh, such an eventful race. Don't get me wrong, the track is still shitty and the problems with removing debris were unacceptable, but nonetheless A LOT has happened.
- Hamilton and Vettel colliding was hilarious. Vettel was played like a fool and he should've been black flagged for hitting Hamilton like that. Also I fully expected both of them to bitch about it on the radio.
- Perez & Ocon crashing into each other - what the hell, they're going to have long talks about this in the team.
- Hamilton having bad luck and losing an easy win and Ricciardo winning instead of him were both very unexpected. RIC got really lucky, but I'll take it.
- Stroll on the podium. Wow, and a fully deserved one, because he was fast and didn't make any mistakes. Even though he lost the place to Bottas at the last second it's still an awesome result (obviously also a great recovery for Bottas).
- Hamilton suggesting that Bottas should slow down made me laugh, just reminds me why I hate him.
- Two McLaren's finished and Alonso in the points!
- Oh and angrytoto.gif and angrykimi.wav. Also brilliant.
- Hamilton and Vettel colliding was hilarious. Vettel was played like a fool and he should've been black flagged for hitting Hamilton like that. Also I fully expected both of them to bitch about it on the radio.
- Perez & Ocon crashing into each other - what the hell, they're going to have long talks about this in the team.
- Hamilton having bad luck and losing an easy win and Ricciardo winning instead of him were both very unexpected. RIC got really lucky, but I'll take it.
- Stroll on the podium. Wow, and a fully deserved one, because he was fast and didn't make any mistakes. Even though he lost the place to Bottas at the last second it's still an awesome result (obviously also a great recovery for Bottas).
- Hamilton suggesting that Bottas should slow down made me laugh, just reminds me why I hate him.
- Two McLaren's finished and Alonso in the points!
- Oh and angrytoto.gif and angrykimi.wav. Also brilliant.
FrankCanada97
Roughly the size of a baaaaaarge
I glanced through the F2 results. Matsushita probably won't be getting a super license this year, especially if you're getting overtaken in the standings by Nicholas Latifi. Looks like Leclerc is going to wrap up the championship sooner rather than later, he and Prema are too consistent.
Holy shit, Danny practically pulled a Stephen Bradbury:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lfQMJtilOGg
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lfQMJtilOGg
I went through exactly the same thing. Surreal.
And we have Sunhi posting in this thread in actual text? This race is one for the ages, then.
10 second stop and go penalty to be precise.
brotkasten
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He would've. Hamilton lost because he had to pit to change his headrest. Vettel could've cruised to the win. Shame that he had to act like a whiny asshole.
I just finished watching the race and that was a lot more fun to watch than I was expecting. Bakus still not a great track but everything else made up for that. After some rough races it was good to see Stroll do so well and Ocon get back up into the points after the incident between the two Force Indias. I liked seeing all the teams working on the cars doing the red flag as well.
darkinstinct
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Unless the headrest came lose because of the crash. Which is very possible. In which case Vettel turned a certain finish behind Hamilton into one in front of him.
It is not quite the European GP of 99 but it got close.
Didn't he leave the car afterwards during the red flag?
darkinstinct
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Fox Mulder
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Because it was a rule made after japan as people like Vettel cried about Max. Then Seb got fucked with the penalty instead.
aspiegamer
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Hamilton was still a dick for asking for a team orders favor, but he did say 'if he isn't fighting anyone' first. He both knew it was wrong and left himself room for plausible deniability! Like a true pro. It would look even worse, but his babyface status has been cemented for the rest of the year after getting deliberately ran into today. People never liked Rosberg anyway, but it became impossible to try to bother defending him last year after he ran Hamilton off the track and tried to crash him out.
People complaining about Hamilton's driving before the crash are hilarious, since some random screencaps are totally more reliable than the stewards looking over the actual telemetry data. Only 3 points for that is pretty bullshit when a dangerous overtaking attempt is worth the same as deliberately ramming someone. The US commentators were exaggerating a bit while discussing it, but it sets a bad precedent in lower formulae if drivers think they can get effectively just a token penalty for that kind of stuff. "Deliberately rammed other driver; Still ended up expanding championship lead over that person" is not a good headline.
There's nooooooo way Hamilton's neck restraint damage was at all related to the Vettel contact, hah. Jesus himself could give testimony that it was and I'd still not believe it. Entirely random and unrelated. That was just a minor mechanic botch.
I think they got rid of the "one move" rule this year, but you're still not supposed to shift in the braking zone.
People complaining about Hamilton's driving before the crash are hilarious, since some random screencaps are totally more reliable than the stewards looking over the actual telemetry data. Only 3 points for that is pretty bullshit when a dangerous overtaking attempt is worth the same as deliberately ramming someone. The US commentators were exaggerating a bit while discussing it, but it sets a bad precedent in lower formulae if drivers think they can get effectively just a token penalty for that kind of stuff. "Deliberately rammed other driver; Still ended up expanding championship lead over that person" is not a good headline.
There's nooooooo way Hamilton's neck restraint damage was at all related to the Vettel contact, hah. Jesus himself could give testimony that it was and I'd still not believe it. Entirely random and unrelated. That was just a minor mechanic botch.
I think they got rid of the "one move" rule this year, but you're still not supposed to shift in the braking zone.
I think we can all agree that this Hamilton-Vettel drama is great for F1. Bild.de proclaims a "War in Formula 1" tonight and the Daily Mail celebrates a "thrilling Azerbaijan Grand Prix."
If that doesn't fuel interest in the sport again, I don't know what will. Perhaps sprinklers but that idea was brutally shot down by the fans in the recent Motorsport.com survey. *sadface*
If that doesn't fuel interest in the sport again, I don't know what will. Perhaps sprinklers but that idea was brutally shot down by the fans in the recent Motorsport.com survey. *sadface*
Hydranockz
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No guys, of course the wheel to wheel contact between VET and HAM wasn't why HAM's headrest popped up. Like, come on, think a little.
It was insanely obvious that it was
It was insanely obvious that it was
as a result of VET reaching out of his cockpit with his right arm, slapping HAM across the helmet and then yanking on the headrest in the time he manoeuvred into and out of that position. The replays cleverly only show VET's left hand gesturing not as an insult, but instead as a distraction. The collision was purely a result of VET concentrating too hard on his scheme.
Fox Mulder
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So, given I missed the race completely, is it worth watching in full? It sounds like there were hardly any boring bits, and that Danny actually drove well and didn't necessarily coast to win.
Plus, if there's an opportunity to see Max cry/whine, I'm all for it
Very eventful and a good watch.
Watching the youtube highlights and wondering why anyone in the UK would watch this commentary over the channel 4 one. For all the dramatic moments Crofty is shouting then Brundle just repeats it ("CONTACT" "DAMAGE"). And this is before the favouritism people complain about in this thread
FrankCanada97
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Channel 4 has Ben Edwards right? I love his commentary. In Canada, TSN uses the Sky broadcast.
JadedWriter
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Is it safe to assume that whomever didn't latch in Hamilton's head rest properly got fired?
This is Mercedes not Ferrari.
Hydranockz
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I'd doubt it. The whole events on the pitlane during the red flags are odd at the best of times so in situations like this one where a check box in the routine went unchecked isn't the most surprising thing.
The race feels like a fever dream.
When I first saw the footage I though maybe seb hit him on accident what with him looking to his right and trying to gesture maybe he wasn't paying attention to what his hand on the wheel was doing. But if that was the case why wouldn't he just apologize?
I started watching F1 in 2015 so I never saw seb at redbull, but this behavior matches up with what I've heard about him.
I started watching F1 in 2015 so I never saw seb at redbull, but this behavior matches up with what I've heard about him.
JadedWriter
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Doesn't he still have the mechanics from 2016?
I like Vettel at Ferrari, but I wouldn't put being slightly insane passed him, especially having witnessed Turkey mostly live.
30yearsofhurt
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And I might get a booty call from Scarlet Johanssen.
A lesser driver than Vettel absolutely would have been, Grosjean got one for the next race for being inept a few years ago after starting a 1st lap pileup at Spa. Doubt they can do that to Vettel now, would be no way to say it wasn't worth a black flag within a race then ban him for the next one. Sure it wasn't actually dangerous at those speeds today but letting a driver ever get away with intentional contact at any speed and continue within an event is a ridiculous precedent to set
Only if you assume that all the sequence of micro events that led up to Hamilton's headrest issue after the red flag would still have happened had there been no incident. I was getting mocked last night for invoking the butterfly effect but I still think it's a reasonable point a day on.
Without the incident, Hamilton would have arrived at the pit lane at a slightly different time, his pit crew wouldn't have been distracted by assessing any potential damage, Hamilton would have not had such a long powwow with his team etc. Not sure tha headrest issue happens no matter what. And if it doesn't, Vettel would have narrowed his lead by 7 rather than increased it by 2.
If I could roll the dice again as a Ferrari fan, I don't think I would. For all his poor behaviour, I think he ended up quite fortunate out of it.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
Hell no, and I hope they don't.
There's a lesson to be learned, but that's it. The incident was punishment enough.
Yeah Toto seemed pretty adamant he wasn't going to burn any individuals. They were owning the error as a whole team. Classy as fuck.
Lionel Richie
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Because MiGOAT Schumacher would never apologize for running over lesser drivers and neither should Seb.
Ok I'm joking, but people thinking Hamilton wasn't bullshitting are kidding themselves. Yeah yeah FIA ruled it otherwise but you are kidding yourselves even further if you think all of the sudden FIA makes any sense.
Dutch Gronk
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The resurrection of German Jesus is turning more and more into original German Jesus ,Michael Baemacher, every year. The same man who fucked up Villeneuve, tried to clock Coulthard and "crashed" his car in Monaco to stop Alonso from getting pole. Is it the smartest thing to do? Fuck no!
But it brings back some of the excitement from the good old days!
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
I'm using this.
Schumacher was calculated. Evil.
Vettel is a entitled brat with road rage.
It's not remotely the same. Though it was hilarious.
StopMakingSense
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Guys, guys.
What was the dangerous driving?
What was the dangerous driving?
Dutch Gronk
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I agree he still has a lot to learn. But he does have the whole acting innocent thing down, so I believe he'll get there.
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