Reineldinho
Member
I really wanted to like this, but what I'm reading is just bad, even worse boring
Edit: Vandal gave it 6.5
Edit: Vandal gave it 6.5
review in spanish
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Valkyria Revolution review thread
- Thread starter LordOfLore
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Oops I'm dumb
Edit: nevermind, still count as sequel
Considering most critics only/mostly use 4-10 on a scale of 1-10, 5/10 is pretty bad. A game has to be utterly broken and barely functional to get anything below a 4, usually, like the kind of Steam/PC games Jim Sterling likes to shit on/make Youtube videos about ripping them apart.
Jawbreaker
Member
Very much expected.
CielTynave
Member
Man what the fuck, I actually considered checking this out since I usually prefer action RPGs, but aside from the reviews I checked out an impressions video on YT. Who the fuck thought a canned 3-hit attack animation for one button press would be a good idea for an "action" game?
Not every IP has to become a catchall brand and Valkyria didn't need this. If they wanted to shift directions and make it different that would've been one thing, but taking away all elements of strategy to make a brain dead action game? WTF Sega? The very idea of this game was horrible to begin with.
Some are going to disagree because it's not a "Chronicles" game and blame the setbacks of this game on those who don't agree. But I still haven't heard any real compelling reason why this tried to use the Valkyria name to begin with. Was Shining just too whored out?
Some are going to disagree because it's not a "Chronicles" game and blame the setbacks of this game on those who don't agree. But I still haven't heard any real compelling reason why this tried to use the Valkyria name to begin with. Was Shining just too whored out?
I think this could have become something 'good' under the right conditions, but Sega majorly fucked this game over from what I heard (tell me if I've got something wrong).
They wanted a demo of the game out while it was basically pre-alpha, the demo was received terribly and as a result Sega slashed the budget hard which shows in the graphics and cutscenes and basically sent it out to die.
On the one hand, maybe the game would have never become good and the demo made them cut their losses, but it could also have become something better with the original budget, we'll never know.
But then again, the entire premise of this game was probably misguided to begin with, so ¯\_(ツ
_/¯
They wanted a demo of the game out while it was basically pre-alpha, the demo was received terribly and as a result Sega slashed the budget hard which shows in the graphics and cutscenes and basically sent it out to die.
On the one hand, maybe the game would have never become good and the demo made them cut their losses, but it could also have become something better with the original budget, we'll never know.
But then again, the entire premise of this game was probably misguided to begin with, so ¯\_(ツ
_/¯
IpsoFacto
Member
Sega, near as I could tell, talked about this game as being a parellel series rather than a continuation of the Valkyria Chronicles series.
Considering the poor reception in Japan, this might be PR chat to cover up the fact that they kinda knew that this game wasn't up to snuff.
Xbox Culture - 5/10
HeyPoorPlayer - 3/5
Just Push Star - 6.5/10
Considering the poor reception in Japan, this might be PR chat to cover up the fact that they kinda knew that this game wasn't up to snuff.
Xbox Culture - 5/10
HeyPoorPlayer - 3/5
Just Push Star - 6.5/10
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Heh, Shining's never too whored out for some producers at SEGA of Japan. They'll never own up to fucking over Camelot when they finished Shining Force III in desperate conditions, and they'll gladly make guaranteed otaku money with Shining spin-offs that might as well be different IPs in all but name. Meanwhile the Yakuza team continues to make good decisions for their franchise, or at least not bad ones.
As for this game, it's a real waste. I hope Media.Vision made got dosh from whatever contract they signed with SEGA, and hopefully they can get better work (like a new proper Wild Arms or a new IP which isn't subservient to yesterday's idea of media mix).
graywolf323
Member
ugh why did I impulse preorder this on PSN last minute before midnight? >_<
YoRHa No.2 Type B
Banned
Wasn't this game out a while ago already?
Why should it be any better now?
Why should it be any better now?
CEJames
Member
Because you want this to be your secret guilty love child.
Grim Patron
Member
You joke but even though I reviewed it and it absolutely isn't worth buying, I'm buying it on Xbox because it existing is hilarious and some people get super salty about t being on Xbox one.
Jawbreaker
Member
I mean, the joke is ultimately on you if you're spending money on a game you believe isn't worth buying.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Jeez why is Sega ruining this IP? They created something amazing initially then went on to sabotage it in so many different ways.
I'm almost certainly gonna skip this, but I'm here for a Mitsuda soundtrack.
I'm almost certainly gonna skip this, but I'm here for a Mitsuda soundtrack.
Toadthemushroom
Member
It's made worse by the fact that Valkyria Chronicles was originally destined for Xbox 360 but never made it out on that format after its platform switch.
Why Sega greenlit this as the first game on Xbox and not VC Remastered boggles the mind.
IpsoFacto
Member
The game had been out in Japan for quite some time. Reviews we're not good and it's sales were pretty poor.
Launching the game quietly in the West in June at a budget price is Sega basically addmitting that they had no confidence in this product.
Yeah, the game is just garbage...worse than Star ocean 5 by far
Japan =/= Xbox is why
Japan =/= Xbox is why
Toadthemushroom
Member
Japan != entire addressable console market.
The fact that Valkyria Revolution exists on Xbox One at all is evidence of this. Hence, why start with this flawed game and not Valkyria Chronicles Remastered.
Because the latter would probably stand more of a chance of recouping any costs involved in porting the game.
I'm not referring to Japanese users. I'm saying, japan developers, and japanese games and xbox don't go together at all. western Xbox gamers don't care about Japanese games period. And most times have to defend their existence on the platform. I don't even know why they bothered with this game honestly, as i can tell you it will bomb on every platform, but especially Xbox One.
Toadthemushroom
Member
Not quite sure what point you're actually trying to make, because that contributes nothing to what you quoted from me.
Toadthemushroom
Member
But it has nothing to do with asking why Sega went for this instead of Valkyria Chronicles Remastered. You just admitted yourself that this game isn't going to shift many copies, particularly so on Xbox One.
your response only really makes sense if I was to ask why Sega didn't bother with *any* Valkyria game on Xbox One. Which was not the case. They've literally just produced an Xbox One version of the game, and I'm wondering why they went for this anyway.
Whether active Xbox One aren't interested in these sorts of games is another matter entirely.
All they had to do was make a VC game like VC1 and VC3 and it would have mad sales on PS4 and PC. It feels like they used the valkryia name for this instead of a new ip because they knew it would flop without it, and it looks like it still will. Like seriously, this has to be one of the most mismanaged game IPs ever especially with that psp fiasco
I think the Xbox initiative came from Deep Silver, aka Sega Europes distribution partner.
No this is absolutely not a sequel in any way
It's a spin-off at best.
Acquiescence
Member
Why they chose to deviate so far from what was a winning formula in Chronicles I don't know.
Toadthemushroom
Member
I guess, though Xbox One isn't doing so well in most European markets. It just seems weird to me really. I'm happy that the game got ported to another platform regardless, though it is odd that Sega didn't even consider a Nintendo Switch version either.
Cause they werent going to bother porting Valkyria Chronicles remastered again in a delayed launch just for Xbox One, and instead just went for the game they were currently working on.
In Japan, they are only making the game for Japan, so PS4. They would have had to have an xbox one version planned from the start, and there was no point to that for that region.
As said, Deep silver did the port to XB1, Japan didn't really have anything to do with it
The difference is, you can't really tell most of these AAA european or candian games from anything made in America, for various reasons.
Japanese games are different and cant hide their origins so easily.
I mean, unless we're talking about DBZ/Naruto games and dark souls, or FF15..i'd hesitate to see the point.
I didn't say I understood the reasoning
Megawarrior
Member
This....probably should have stayed in japan.
Toadthemushroom
Member
The time gap between Japanese and overseas releases for Valkyria Chronicles Remastered and Valkyria Revolution is 4-6 months. Valkyria Chronicles Remastered was released internationally.
That wasn't fact, but a suggestion as to what might have happened. And it would have been Media.Vision who programmed the port.
that may be so, but deep silver likely commissioned it. You asked in the first place why this game and why not remastered. Well its likely Deep silver is the reason this game is on Xbox one at all
Toadthemushroom
Member
I don't buy into the narrative that active Xbox One users buy games based on their origin. It's clearly more complicated than that.
Toadthemushroom
Member
As I mentioned earlier, it's actually rather unlikely that this is the case, considering Deep Silver (actually Koch Media) is only the European distributor of the game (it's being published by Sega, unlike Atlus titles) and non-UK markets aren't big in Europe for Xbox One.
Having thought about it I suppose a more likely reason is this port is what came out of talks between Xbox and publisher exec bids for more support from Japanese publishers who tend to leave out the Xbox One in multiplatform plans.
(See also: Monster Hunter World, Code Vein, etc).
IpsoFacto
Member
SEGA said it as much last year. They mentioned Valkyria Chronicles and Valkyria Revolution as different series. The wording is a little unclear(because this game was originally pitched as a prequel, methinks), but if that's what they were going for then Valkyria Revolution as a parellel series is almost certainly dead on arrival.