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Anita Sarkeesian's astounding 'garbage human' moment at Vidcon

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SOLDIER

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When's that Zoe Quinn movie coming out?

I really feel that will he the thing that will open up a lot of eyes and potentially take this problem more seriously, assuming the movie does its job.
 

Sakwoff

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Well there are some people who
think he was right, despite the game saying he was a garbage human being who was just trying to justify his shitty actions with philosophical ramblings, and he himself saying he just did all that stuff because he could. Actually, Persona 4's villain is an apt metaphor for these kinds of people.

I mean, yeah.

Fiction is kinda full of that kind of thing. Lots of dudes think Tyler Durden is awesome and "has a point".
 

Accoun

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I've heard he's calmed down a bit recently and had a bit of a falling out with the other "rational skeptics". But man...

I think he literally has a video called "Why I Left the YouTube Skeptic Community". So maybe he really did change for the better. Maybe.
 

norm9

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Trolling and harassing someone in real life seems like a pathetic and stupid thing to do and I'm surprised not surprised they're being paid to do it.
 

Mesoian

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When's that Zoe Quinn movie coming out?

I really feel that will he the thing that will open up a lot of eyes and potentially take this problem more seriously, assuming the movie does its job.

Don't quote me on this but I think it got sidelined. That may or may not be true as it is INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT to get real information about the people involved in these things.

People like Sargon are hilarious.

How can one so be convinced that they're smart while being so breathtakingly stupid?

The smell of one's own shit is entoxicating to the owner.
 

Gnilres

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I used to hate Anita and would always accuse her of hyperbole and lying and then I realized she was talking about the exact behavior I was using against her.

I still don't like her content all that much, but man, you have to be a special kind of asshole to go out of your way to harass her or anyone. Stop proving her point.
 

RedZaraki

Banned
I think the fact that Sargon's group gets SO FUCKING SALTY about non-controversial shit like "Women are portrayed poorly in video games" and "feminists get harassed" that they then proceed to stalk and harass Anita is a bit telling on the validity of their position.

In other words: They're a bunch of women hating manchildren that like to circlejerk to each other.
 

Marcel

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When's that Zoe Quinn movie coming out?

I really feel that will he the thing that will open up a lot of eyes and potentially take this problem more seriously, assuming the movie does its job.

Or it will have the opposite effect if the movie is bad or overly melodramatic. Such things can happen.
 
Astounding? Really? More like trash fire talk. Many groups use the same tactics including the feminists to interrupt people who they don´t agree with. Sakeesian was exposed many times again and again, yet people still believe and follow her.
 
these are all single (¿white?) virgin dudes... right????


I can´t imagine someone having a healthy relationship with a woman while doing this type of shit
 

Sakwoff

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I think he literally has a video called "Why I Left the YouTube Skeptic Community". So maybe he really did change for the better. Maybe.

I kinda don't care though.

People can change for the better, but I can't just go and pretend years of harassment and actively making the world worse hasn't happened. He's got a lot (A LOT) to make up for before I'm willing to applaud him for anything.
 

Mesoian

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I used to hate Anita and would always accuse her of hyperbole and lying and then I realized she was talking about the exact behavior I was using against her.

I still don't like her content all that much, but man, you have to be a special kind of asshole to go out of your way to harass her or anyone. Stop proving her point.

You don't have to agree with her. She is one opinion in a turbulant ocean of opinions. It is just as easy to not watch her stuff as it is to not watch anyone else's stuff.

These people want to make an example of her that states, "the opinions of women we do not approve of mean nothing and they should be excized from this community". And that's not how this shit works. Hopefully it never will be, but we're running a little short on hope lately...just...all around.

Have a bunch of people who think what he's saying is true and validate him.

A, le gasp.

Echo chamber™

Paid echo chambers funded by patreon seem to be the new THING.
 

Shai-Tan

Banned
Sargon was on the Joe Rogan Experience a couple days ago regarding this vidcon episode. It was actually pretty disgusting, there were several instances where he basically hijacked the podcast to hurl nasty personal attacks at Anita. Rogan kept trying to reign him in and change the subject, guy was obviously not interested in talking about anything else though.

These dudes are just gross.

Joe at least tried to get him off it. Looking at comment threads about the episode on r/JoeRogan/ they were mostly negative and even on r/KotakuInAction/ which is like maximum reactionary they say they agree with many of his positions but not the way he goes about it being obsessed with Anita. The guy is articulate but poorly informed, argues against stupid caricatures and crazy outliers, not the arguments people are actually making.

I myself don't agree with some ideas Anita has about media effects but she's making arguments in good faith. Just because your political orientation causes you to have different foundational assumptions doesn't make her arguments bad because many of these issues are open questions.

I stopped listening to the episode when Sargon started talking about equality of opportunity vs equality of outcome and how that separates liberals and progressives. Political philosophy is not that simple. A cursory reading of the first chapter of Amartya Sen's Inequality Reexamined would set him straight.
 

PMS341

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Astounding? Really? More like trash fire talk. Many groups use the same tactics including the feminists to interrupt people who they don´t agree with. Sakeesian was exposed many times again and again, yet people still believe and follow her.

Avatar makes post.
 

Kinsei

Banned
She fell into a trap and gave them the ammo they needed/wanted. I can;t say I blame her though as I would have done the exact same thing in her situation.

Carl seems like such a sad person. It's like he doesn't have any friends, not even the people on his "side". I've seen pictures from vidcon where he is just kinda sulking in the background.
 

LiK

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This human garbage really has no life. I'm glad he got called out for what he is. All those morons giving this loser money.
 
Looking forward to Colin Moriarty making pointed takes about how Anita shouldn't be afraid of criticism followed by Gaffers pulling up his statements in this very forum.
 
Astounding? Really? More like trash fire talk. Many groups use the same tactics including the feminists to interrupt people who they don´t agree with. Sakeesian was exposed many times again and again, yet people still believe and follow her.

Bruh, Sargon of Akkad is an actual garbage human being who supports various far-right politicians, groups, and movements, and was an active participant in Gamergate.

Don't let this be the hill that you die on.
 

flkraven

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After his humiliation, Benjamin posted a video complaining about Sarkeesian's comments and pointing out that they contravene VidCon policy. He also repeated his lamentation that she is avoiding debating him and said that Sarkeesian was guilty of "smearing male gamers.

In his video, Cullen complained: "What has he [Benjamin] done to deserve this? He's just sitting there. She's the one talking. She started attacking him in this context. Fucking unbelievable. This abuse is acceptable? So these guest speakers are able to insult a paid audience member?"

What fucking babies. These are the defenders of the anti-pc, anti-snowflake culture? Poor guy gets his poor little baby feelings hurt?
 

7threst

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Astounding? Really? More like trash fire talk. Many groups use the same tactics including the feminists to interrupt people who they don´t agree with. Sakeesian was exposed many times again and again, yet people still believe and follow her.
Anita isn't 'a group', she is one person who's life is hell thanks to guys like this.

And 'believe her'? You see what is happening when someone speaks there mind about feminism and sexism on the game industry right? Hell fucking yeah I believe her.
 
Sargon of Akkad would have flayed these mouthbreathers alive.

What the fuck is wrong with these people. The whole ruining lives through the internet thing is such complete and utter bullshit, and they're doing it for fucking videogames of all things.
 
I'm no fan of Anita Sarkeesian, but to spend the time to go to a panel with the specific intent to harass her and interrupt the panel is fucking pathetic.
 

Velkyn

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Holy shit, props to Anita for putting this douchebag in his place.

We need more women like her in video games criticism who won't be made to be quiet by wastes of human skin like the GGers.
 

Crossing Eden

Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
"Real life shitpost"? Jesus man, just call it heckling
These are the type of people who have no lives outside of /poI and "skeptic youtube" so they use that terminology in real life.

Astounding? Really? More like trash fire talk. Many groups use the same tactics including the feminists to interrupt people who they don´t agree with. Sakeesian was exposed many times again and again, yet people still believe and follow her.
I'd love to see what sort of video or article you're about to link ITT....
 

hawk2025

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Not really. The three guys sat in the front were:

Sargon: Wife and kid

Mundane Matt: Married

Chris Ray Gun: Banging Laci Green


The stuff you decide to focus on in this thread is transparent.

Everyone sees through the bullshit -- you can stop pretending.
 
Unfortunately, this will only serve to help these assholes. It wins sympathy for their career in ad hominem attacks against her because they can use it to paint her as the attacker. It's fucked. This is the community YouTube has empowered by being too permissive of harassment and hate speech.
 

MrBadger

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Astounding? Really? More like trash fire talk. Many groups use the same tactics including the feminists to interrupt people who they don´t agree with. Sakeesian was exposed many times again and again, yet people still believe and follow her.

What was Sarkeesian "exposed" as? Someone who occasionally uses inaccurate examples?
 
What never ceases to amaze and depress is the number of people who are ignorant/evil who agree with sexist shit like this and keep these people going.
 
Basically all that needs to be said about the garbage human Cargon:

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He's a psychopath.
 
I feel the same way about this as I do about the daily mass shooting. I feel bad, but it's kind of a distant feeling since -- somehow -- this is the new normal. Absolutely insane.
"So much for the tolerant left..."

Sargon really is a pathetic POS.
Especially funny since the actual left isn't terribly tolerant at all. Just intolerant of different things.
 

Mesoian

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These are the type of people who have no lives outside of /poI and "skeptic youtube" so they use that terminology in real life.

One of the most facinating thing that came out of the GG stuff and moved into the Trump election was people using internet lingo for very real harassment terms, beause in their mind, that takes power away from the action that they're doing. It makes it okay in their eyes because it's suddenly "for the lulz and why are you so serious brah?"

It's like these people are leaving their houses for the first time and realizing that there's a big world out there and that actions have, dare I say, consequences.
 
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