Any equivalent TV available in Australia?
HDR peak brightness is pretty much shit but other than that for the price it's an amazing deal.
Just keep in mind for great HDR you need as high numbers as you can get. But again for the money it's real deal.
2-3 months shipping at Amazon basically puts it out of reach of many people. Too bad they don't have stock.
65" later this year.
What are you talking about? There is no 60" version.
you can get one from bestbuy right now shipped to you as far as i can tell.
so oleds don't do great hdr? (legit question) cuz this set is rated about the same by rtings and the top oleds seem way below the top LCDs in brightness.
Yes they do, because they have an infinite contrast ratio, they don't require the same brightness as an LED.
The 2 standards to be HDR10 under the UHD Alliance are:
STANDARD 1: More than 1,000 nits peak brightness and less than 0.05nits black level.
STANDARD 2: More than 540 nits brightness and less than 0.0005 nits black level
While standard one demands higher brightness and tolerates a higher black level, standard two tolerates a lower brightness and demands a lower black level. This means manufacturers looking to make LED HDR TVs, which most are, will abide by standard one, while OLED TVs will be able to gain the Ultra HD Premium label by conforming to standard two. Ultimately, it's not about how bright you get, but how much of a jump there is between light and dark.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/hdr-tv-high-dynamic-television-explained
This is good for ONE X?
I don't have a 4k tv yet.
Ultimately, it's not about how bright you get, but how much of a jump there is between light and dark.
I think he referring to OLED which on a whole is going to give you a much better picture.
So the 3 tiers have emerged it seems:
Best Budget TV: TCLP607
Best MidRange TV: Sony X900E
Best High End TV: LG B6/B7/C7 OLED
I think he referring to OLED which on a whole is going to give you a much better picture.
So the 3 tiers have emerged it seems:
Best Budget TV: TCLP607
Best MidRange TV: Sony X900E
Best High End TV: LG B6/B7/C7 OLED
Is the KS8000/MU8000 not a contender in the mid range TV selection anymore?
Is the KS8000/MU8000 not a contender in the mid range TV selection anymore?
Those looking for a 65" version it won't be out till later in the year.
Is the KS8000/MU8000 not a contender in the mid range TV selection anymore?
you can get one from bestbuy right now shipped to you as far as i can tell.
so oleds don't do great hdr? (legit question) cuz this set is rated about the same by rtings and the top oleds seem way below the top LCDs in brightness.
Not wrong at all to be weary. I refuse to buy Samsung since I had three device failures in as many years, even though I know their stuff is popular. LG has been consistent for me, as has Sony when it comes to TVs.
Not for HDR gaming due to input lag, though...?The Vizio P is better
since we're comparing low end and mid end,
does KS7000 (or KS8000 in US) still offer better HDR quality than TCL P607?
or TCL better AND cheaper?
I might still be able to get KS7000 here in Asia, but I don't think TCL will release P607 sometime in the future
I'm looking for a new 4K HDR TV since I sold my last set to my friend
Thanks
I watch a lot of 24p material. How does this TV handle 3:2 pulldown? It's a 60Hz TV so you can only expect so much.
24p movies playing from 24p sources like DVDs and Blu-rays are judder-free on the TCL p and no specific option needs to be turned on, as the TV displays the correct cadence without any extra input from the user. On the other hand, 24p movies playing from 60p/60i sources like cable or satellite boxes will present judder and no option in the TV picture setting is available to remove judder from 24p movies on those sources.
So cheap. It sucks living in Japan where good TV are really expensive. A similar tv to this would cost 1500$ in Japan
This TV supports Dolby Vision! A little good bit of future-proofing in there!
The B6 I have has higher rated HDR numbers , sometimes far exceeding what was seen in the review. You really want 1,000 nits for HDR bare min but OLED offers the major advantage of infinite black so when something is bright there are no LCD fallbacks that can be distracting (haloing , uneven backlighting and so on). So it's forgivable that OLED can't hit that bare min number while for an LCD it should be very doable especially with a fully backlight array for local dimming.
This TV is a great deal for the price , far better in many ways but in terms of HDR brightness it's poor and HDR is really what you want to be the best on an LCD. Otherwise even if it has a good color gamut to cover the HDR standard it just won't seem to "pop" as HDR should. The difference between this set and even last years Samsung KS8000 is massive in terms of HDR and if you sat the two next to each other it would stand out even more. But this set has advantages over the KS8000.
Anyway just a bit of advice if HDR is your primary goal then you want that min of 1,000 nits of brightness min covered. Dolby Vision support is great too but it's poorly supported as only a few streaming services , two 4K Blu Rays , one Blu Ray player and like one or two games support it. So HDR numbers and your sets capability with it should be your focus as HDR isn't going anywhere. Dolby Vision however might just never get the widespread support it needs.
While I agree a higher nits would be nice, not a lot of tv's, especially in this price range, are hitting 1,000+ nits sustained. Even the well reviewed X900E doesn't hit 1,000 nits.
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/tcl/p607
"On a better note, the HDR performance of the P607 is impressive. Since it has a wide color gamut, great HDR peak brightness, and a decent local dimming feature, HDR content ​looks great and the difference between SDR and HDR movies is really noticeable."
I had a Ks8000 and while it could get bright it had a ton of issues that really took away from it, mainly the poor dimming which created entire pillars of "light" whenever you had a small bright object on screen, instead of simply highlighting that small area it had to highlight an entire pillar and stood out like a sore thumb, totally ruining the picture quality imo.
I'd gladly take slightly less peak brights for a uniform picture that keeps blacks black.
I heard the popular samsung ks 8000 doesn't, but what if you buy a uhd player that does support it or run the shows/movies through chromecast ultra?
I'd like to pick up the P605 model from Best Buy. I need around $200 more dollars to do the $799.99 or more 24-month no interest financing there. Can anyone recommend a good sound bar to go with this TV?
I'd like to pick up the P605 model from Best Buy. I need around $200 more dollars to do the $799.99 or more 24-month no interest financing there. Can anyone recommend a good sound bar to go with this TV?
It perplexes me that anyone is ready to spend $800 on a 4K TV but doesn't have a proper 5.1 surround sound yet.
HDR peak brightness is pretty much shit but other than that for the price it's an amazing deal.
Just keep in mind for great HDR you need as high numbers as you can get. But again for the money it's real deal.
2-3 months shipping at Amazon basically puts it out of reach of many people. Too bad they don't have stock.
I think he referring to OLED which on a whole is going to give you a much better picture.
So the 3 tiers have emerged it seems:
Best Budget TV: TCLP607
Best MidRange TV: Sony X900E
Best High End TV: LG B6/B7/C7 OLED
What is the name of this TV in Europe?
this brand isn't available in europe , is it?
Yea, I was gonna get this but I dont think I can wait that long. Looking at some Vizio's now.
I want the LG C6 for 3D. I still got some 3D movies...
If the person is asking for a soundbar, then it seems clear that they can play audio without bothering others. Also they seem to care enough about audio to not want to use TV speakers.Because everyone isnt an audiophile, nor does everyone live somewhere that can adequately run a 5.1 surround sound system without bothering others.
Not for HDR gaming due to input lag, though...?