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[CaviarMeths]

No one is buying a Switch to play an FPS that is on every other console. No one. I would almost be willing to bet that if Lawbreaker's was a release date title for Switch, literally no one would buy it for just that game. I don't know why this is an issue to anyone unless the whole point is to have an issue for the sake of having something to complain about OR to feel smart about "seeing through marketing".

I'm sorry for the abstractions in my first post. I get that concrete ideas are easier to grasp.

I am certain that Overwatch and Destiny would find an audience on Switch, as they have on every platform they released on so far.

 

[Velocity:Design:Comfort]

The game will look ugly on the Switch anyways.

No?

 

[Effect]

Just say you don't want to put the game on the Switch or any Nintendo system. Say you haven't even bothered to pay attention to the system. Say you don't have the employees or money!

DO NOT make stupid statements like this! DO NOT lie like this! DO NOT even attempt to joke in this manner!

I'm not surprised this happen. There is a level of not giving a fuck in regard to facts when it comes to Nintendo hardware that exist within the gaming industry. So you will have people that either lie or just say something that is factual untrue because they don't care and never bothered to pay the smallest amount of attention. BS like this has been happening for years. It was stupid every single time it was said in the past too.

 

[Maintenance]

 

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

Never heard of this game before, but I'll be sure to skip it when I own a PS4. Almost as bad as that Tintanfall guy's drunk tantrum.

 

[Cipherr]

These port threads are just so bizarre to me. Who the hell would expect Lawbreakers on switch. and so we get some BS excuse, what difference does it make

I mean, we found out that there's a dev studio out there that has paid so little attention to the Switch as a whole that he apparently doesn't even realize how many buttons it has

I'm sorry but that cracks me the hell up.

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

I mean, we found out that there's a dev studio out there that has paid so little attention to the Switch as a whole that he apparently doesn't even realize how many buttons it has

I'm sorry but that cracks me the hell up.

Or thinks that you apparently have to look at your hands or something during motion controls. I'm not sure if this is incompetence or severe inability to bullshit properly.

 

[Head.spawn]

Does Switch have Right-Click/Left-Click?

 

[Gaspard]

Does Switch have Right-Click/Left-Click?

Yes both sticks click.

 

[Aostia]

It is si.please.
They were provided just with the main unit.
No joycons.
It lacks ANY buttons

 

[Zee_truly evil]

Does Switch have Right-Click/Left-Click?

Yup it does

 

[marmoka]

 

[Head.spawn]

Yes both sticks click.

So exactly the same as Xbox One. Maybe Lawbreaker is drunk.

 

[Phrozenflame500]

Saw this on Twitter. https://twitter.com/lawbreakers/status/885305442364256257

lmao

if you don't want to port it just don't port it, you don't need to justify it so haphazardly

 

[Bluth54]

No one is buying a Switch to play an FPS that is on every other console. No one. I would almost be willing to bet that if Lawbreaker's was a release date title for Switch, literally no one would buy it for just that game. I don't know why this is an issue to anyone unless the whole point is to have an issue for the sake of having something to complain about OR to feel smart about "seeing through marketing".

I'm sorry for the abstractions in my first post. I get that concrete ideas are easier to grasp.

To be fair it seems like no one is going to buy Lawbreakers.

 

[WadeitOut]

Did the people excited for this play the early access beta? The switch will be okay missing this one I think.

 

[Codeblue]

That Twitter thread is pretty awful. Like everyone just forgot to laugh at the dumb reasoning and is actually mad that Lawbreakers isn't coming to their platform of choice.

Understandable decision undercut by such an unnecessary, bizarre excuse.

 

[Jubenhimer]

I never expected or even cared about Law Breakers coming to the Switch anyway, but Jesus Christ that was an incomprehensibly stupid reason they gave. Just say, you didn't feel like porting it over, don't make up dumb shit like this.

 

[Pepboy]

Honestly the dude should have used the technical downgrade as a scapegoat. Would have actually had a leg to stand on.



Never forget that Titanfall 2 thread.

Or just "we have no announcements at this time." And it would be a nonstory.

 

[Hatefilled Vengeance]

Dumb answer, but dude probably has never even seen/considered the Switch. Given the last 20 years, not sure why anyone would think the onus is on the 3rd parties to care about what Nintendo does.

 

[oti]

western developers don't support Nintendo systems

which is the news?

That they're using undeniably wrong statements to justify it? Just say "it doesn't make financial sense right now but never say never" or something like that instead of insulting people's intelligence.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Dumb answer, but dude probably has never even seen/considered the Switch. Given the last 20 years, not sure why anyone would think the onus is on the 3rd parties to care about what Nintendo does.

Any dev worth his or her salt should have at least knowledge on the level of how many buttons are available on a platform's controller, and the knowledge not to make dumb statements instead of just being honest about not wanting to put their game on said platform

 

[retardedrockstar]

Is this the daily Switch owners getting mad at third party devs thread? Not that it isn't justified sometimes but it's almost a meme at this point.

Well, He should have just said its not powerful enough...

 

[cw_sasuke]

Mentioning the Switch is just free publicity for them - especially when they respond with such an obv. wrong answer.

 

[Lonely1]

There are many legitimate reasons on why a dev might hold a title from the Switch:

• We are focusing all our limited resources on the main SKU's.
• We started this project 3 years ago and getting a Switch dev kit was hard until a few months ago, (or still is?).
• There are obvious technical challenges that we don't want to get into.
• We predicted a WiiU like flop and is too late to change course now.

And, the most-likely-to-be-real one:

• Is difficult to predict a good ROI still.

Feel free to use any!

 

[Pepboy]

Is this the daily Switch owners getting mad at third party devs thread? Not that it isn't justified sometimes but it's almost a meme at this point.

More like puzzling statements from a dev that make you wonder how poorly designed / optimized their game must be.

 

[Herb Alpert]

This industry is so unhealthy sometimes...

 

[MetalliCabombination]

Entertaining thread.
The way some people post makes you wonder if theyre the top minds of marketing and tech in the gaming industry and know so much more about how weak/strong or how popular the switch is how certain games would sell on it despite no obvious empirical or tangible evidence on anything.

That said, im hardly amused by personal attacks on devs or their work because they dont hold the same opinion as you about the switch. Someone doesnt isnt making his game for the switch for whatever good or bad reason and people dogpile on him, someone like konami release 'a' game on switch and later fixes its issues and you have praises being sung from the get go despite documented evidence of them being assholes

 

[Vinnk]

At least they admit it.

Nice. But more interested to see how they explain the motion controls statement.

 

[Pepboy]

Entertaining thread.
The way some people post makes you wonder if theyre the top minds of marketing and tech in the gaming industry and know so much more about how weak/strong or how popular the switch is how certain games would sell on it despite no obvious empirical or tangible evidence on anything.

That said, im hardly amused by personal attacks on devs or their work because they dont hold the same opinion as you about the switch.

If they said something sensical like "it's not economically sound to release lawbreakers because the demand isn't there", almost no one would have an issue with it. I mean the only other time I have heard about lawbreakers was when Gearbox was complaining that no one was playing the open beta. Edit: wait was that doorbreakers? Are they related?

But I'm not sure the number of buttons constitutes an "opinion". I also don't see critiques on their work as a "personal attack".

I think it's fair game when someone says something off base to wonder if their work suffers from a similar lack of detail / misinformed assumptions.

 

[Lonely1]

Entertaining thread.
The way some people post makes you wonder if theyre the top minds of marketing and tech in the gaming industry and know so much more about how weak/strong or how popular the switch is how certain games would sell on it despite no obvious empirical or tangible evidence on anything.

That said, im hardly amused by personal attacks on devs or their work because they dont hold the same opinion as you about the switch. Someone doesnt isnt making his game for the switch for whatever good or bad reason and people dogpile on him, someone like konami release 'a' game on switch and later fixes its issues and you have praises being sung from the get go despite documented evidence of them being assholes

First of all, discussing the business side of gaming is a big part of what makes GAF. We can state our opinions of why we think some decisions are wrong. Secondly, yes, industry executives make a lot of mistakes. The last decade is littered with corpses of products chasing the CoD money, then Dota/LoL and now is Overwatch's turn.

 

[Galactic Fork]

Entertaining thread.
The way some people post makes you wonder if theyre the top minds of marketing and tech in the gaming industry and know so much more about how weak/strong or how popular the switch is how certain games would sell on it despite no obvious empirical or tangible evidence on anything.

That said, im hardly amused by personal attacks on devs or their work because they dont hold the same opinion as you about the switch. Someone doesnt isnt making his game for the switch for whatever good or bad reason and people dogpile on him, someone like konami release 'a' game on switch and later fixes its issues and you have praises being sung from the get go despite documented evidence of them being assholes

How is the number of buttons on the switch an opinion?

 

[oti]

Entertaining thread.
The way some people post makes you wonder if theyre the top minds of marketing and tech in the gaming industry and know so much more about how weak/strong or how popular the switch is how certain games would sell on it despite no obvious empirical or tangible evidence on anything.

That said, im hardly amused by personal attacks on devs or their work because they dont hold the same opinion as you about the switch. Someone doesnt isnt making his game for the switch for whatever good or bad reason and people dogpile on him, someone like konami release 'a' game on switch and later fixes its issues and you have praises being sung from the get go despite documented evidence of them being assholes

I'm hardly amused by posters who baselessly attack other posters.
How about you train your reading comprehension?

 

[massoluk]

Entertaining thread.
The way some people post makes you wonder if theyre the top minds of marketing and tech in the gaming industry and know so much more about how weak/strong or how popular the switch is how certain games would sell on it despite no obvious empirical or tangible evidence on anything.

That said, im hardly amused by personal attacks on devs or their work because they dont hold the same opinion as you about the switch. Someone doesnt isnt making his game for the switch for whatever good or bad reason and people dogpile on him, someone like konami release 'a' game on switch and later fixes its issues and you have praises being sung from the get go despite documented evidence of them being assholes

Wooossh, miss the point. We get it if a game doesn't come to a system for technical or financial reasons. Those happened. What we are doing is laughing or groaning at the lame ass excuse

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Entertaining thread.
The way some people post makes you wonder if theyre the top minds of marketing and tech in the gaming industry and know so much more about how weak/strong or how popular the switch is how certain games would sell on it despite no obvious empirical or tangible evidence on anything.

That said, im hardly amused by personal attacks on devs or their work because they dont hold the same opinion as you about the switch. Someone doesnt isnt making his game for the switch for whatever good or bad reason and people dogpile on him, someone like konami release 'a' game on switch and later fixes its issues and you have praises being sung from the get go despite documented evidence of them being assholes

All I read from this is you condone lying by a developer in this case.

 

[KratosEnergyDrink]

The developer obviously never hold a Switch in his hands or even saw a Switch.

I don't get it why such people don't admit his gap in knowledge but instead make up silly arguments.

His statement about motion controls are confused, was he drunk or high or simply did not understand the question?

 

[Herb Alpert]

Entertaining thread.
The way some people post makes you wonder if theyre the top minds of marketing and tech in the gaming industry and know so much more about how weak/strong or how popular the switch is how certain games would sell on it despite no obvious empirical or tangible evidence on anything.

That said, im hardly amused by personal attacks on devs or their work because they dont hold the same opinion as you about the switch. Someone doesnt isnt making his game for the switch for whatever good or bad reason and people dogpile on him, someone like konami release 'a' game on switch and later fixes its issues and you have praises being sung from the get go despite documented evidence of them being assholes

So much words and yet it still misses the whole point.

Is the lack of buttons an alternative fact?

 

[Triggerhappytel]

The over defensiveness of this thread will be fun.

Who's being over-defensive? Maybe you could explain in what way the excuse makes sense.

 

[Mooreberg]

There isn't even an Xbox One version currently announced, so studio size would have been the easy answer that draws no fire. That probably should have been obvious to the interviewer to begin with. But I think the longer term work on the game will be transition it to F2P on Steam anyway.

 

[oti]

There isn't even an Xbox One version currently announced, so studio size would have been the easy answer that draws no fire. That probably should have been obvious to the interviewer to begin with. But I think the longer term work on the game will be transition it to F2P on Steam anyway.

It makes absolute zero sense to port it to Switch at this point. Just say that you want to see how the platform develops or something like that. It's not hard.

 

[gtj1092]

If they said something sensical like "it's not economically sound to release lawbreakers because the demand isn't there", almost no one would have an issue with it. I mean the only other time I have heard about lawbreakers was when Gearbox was complaining that no one was playing the open beta. Edit: wait was that doorbreakers? Are they related?

But I'm not sure the number of buttons constitutes an "opinion". I also don't see critiques on their work as a "personal attack".

I think it's fair game when someone says something off base to wonder if their work suffers from a similar lack of detail / misinformed assumptions.

This isn't true. Every one will just then complain that most switch owners are 30 and male and that the devs can't know there's not an audience if they don't try.

Also I remember Drift 4 devs used the same controller excuse and they specially mentioned the split joycon mode not having enough buttons and they still got shit. No matter the reason people will still be upset and still claim that they aren't interested in said game anyway but would be magically interested if it was portable.

 

[mclem]

The over defensiveness of this thread will be fun.

I'm broadly okay with reasons to not port to Switch that make sense. This one... really doesn't, or at least I'm struggling to comprehend what he's saying.

 

[dock]

Guy made a mistake, that's all.

Plenty of devs targeting PS4/XBO/PC simply aren't considering Switch at all, and it would require too much a sea change for their design or toolchain to change this.

The Switch is my favourite console right now, but even simple games like Snake Pass are struggling to port over nicely.

 

[Chubby Rain]

simple games like Snake Pass are struggling to port over nicely.

Simple game lol

Have you seen any technical analysis's of the game?

 

[Lonely1]

Guy made a mistake, that's all.

Plenty of devs targeting PS4/XBO/PC simply aren't considering Switch at all, and it would require too much a sea change for their design or toolchain to change this.

The Switch is my favourite console right now, but even simple games like Snake Pass are struggling to port over nicely.

Snake Pass is not technically a 'light' game though. Sub 900p on the Ps4.

 

[Oregano]

Snake Pass was also ported in like a month or two and UE4 support for Switch wasn't even complete. It can't really be used as an example of struggling with a port.

 

[00ich]

Who's being over-defensive? Maybe you could explain in what way the excuse makes sense.

It's the part where it's called 'excuse'. The dev doesn't owe Switch owners an excuse or apology, yet some Switch fans seem to feel entitled to one if someone (one which grounds whatsoever) has the audacity not to develop for the platform.
The defensiveness is the "they are rejecting us our good right to ports because collude against me and my brand" part.

 

[mclem]

This tops the Codemasters excuse of not being able to make a game that works with a single Joycon.

I'm reminded of Micro Machines 2 on the SNES, which had an option to use two players per controller.

Who made that again? I forget.

 

[Lonely1]

It's the part where it's called 'excuse'. The dev doesn't owe Switch owners an excuse or apology, yet some Switch fans seem to feel entitled to one if someone (one which grounds whatsoever) has the audacity not to develop for the platform.
The defensiveness is the "they are rejecting us our good right to ports because collude against me and my brand" part.

Huh? Devs want to sell their product, so they owe to their costumers. Alienating potential costumers is generally bad business.

 

[Sadist]

This is bad comedy. Just say you Don't want too