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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 7 - Sundays on HBO

Sanke__

Member
David Bradley absolutely killed it as Arya pretending to be Walder Frey

I think it would have helped the episode to save it for the end though

Overall it was pretty standard first ep of the season stuff

The first ep always seems to be fairly boring
 
I was actually shocked
that arya has gone full levels of psychopath.

The scene with the Lannister soldiers shows she's not completely gone, though.

That's probably what he means. I don't feel like the show has any interest on touching on those horns.


Not on the show, but Euron's actor actually brought up Dragonbinder in an interview after last season. Not sure if he was just teasing it or if it means something, though. It wouldn't have made sense for him to risk having Cersei seize it by bringing it if he does have it, though.
 

Speevy

Banned
I thought this was a good episode with some surprisingly well thought out moments. I really liked Arya's scene and The Hound's burying the dead. I also liked Euron insulting Jaime. Sophie Turner should back off trying to portray Sansa so severely because it's really obvious where they're taking this.

Did D and D write this episode? No jokes about pussies smelling like assholes.
 

Pkaz01

Member
Kind of interesting how much disrespect Ned gets a far being a "naive or foolish" That shit might have been stupid in the South but in the North he as loved like no other, the extents his bannerman went for his kids even after he was killed and deemed a traitor would never happen in the south.

Sansa doesn't know how to rule in the north, I mean she had a point, but she did undermine Jon by blurting out instead of talking about it later, and it isn't necessarily relevant in the North were loyalty actually is a thing
 
I didn't rewatch all of last season, but is Jaqen(sp?) gonna just let Arya run around abusing her skill set and be cool with it?
I mean, upon rewatching it, S6 makes it clear that none of the servants of the Many-Faced God are *actually* 'no-one.' Jaqen has a soft spot for Arya and the Waif disobeyed orders and broke cover because she wanted Arya to die painfully.

Not saying there aren't significant narrative flaws here, but it's entirely possible that Arya's roaring rampage of revenge is something the Many-Faced God is entirely kosher with.
 

Speevy

Banned
Brienne called Jon "brooding" last season. Calling Robb and Ned stupid is another example of the show writing its characters from the perspective of fans. They did that last season when Walder Frey said "The Freys and the Lannisters send their regards."

I don't mind when characters are smart, but that's coming dangerously close to winking at the audience or breaking the fourth wall.

If someone on the show says "Frey pies", I'll laugh my ass off.
 

Patriots7

Member
Dragonstone was a generic castle. That was really disappointing.

Sansa saying Ned was dumb when she contributed to his death was strange.
 

Speevy

Banned
Dragonstone was a generic castle. That was really disappointing.

Sansa saying Ned was dumb when she contributed to his death was strange.

Dragonstone has already been on the show before.

Of course, all the locations look different depending on who is visiting them.
 

Staccat0

Fail out bailed
It's gotta be Draginbinder man. It's the one big "thing" they haven't used.

Dragonstone was a generic castle. That was really disappointing.

Sansa saying Ned was dumb when she contributed to his death was strange.
Nah, I've never been to a castle like that.
 
no? laughing and sharing rabbit with fucking ed sheran or whatever you spell his name? hopefully she kills him next episode.

She was ready to butcher them all. It was their stories of being normal that seemed to shock her tbh. Did you see her face? "Oh these people...aren't all evil?"
 

Speevy

Banned
Question: Why is Cersei suddenly mad at Olenna Tyrell? She killed her entire family and was forced to flee the capital.

A smart way to articulate it would be "As expected, Olenna has turned on us."
 

Gnome

Member
Question: Why is Cersei suddenly mad at Olenna Tyrell? She killed her entire family and was forced to flee the capital.

A smart way to articulate it would be "As expected, Olenna has turned on us."

The Dornish have no problem killing family for...reasons. So why not the Tyrells?
 

Ramirez

Member
I mean, upon rewatching it, S6 makes it clear that none of the servants of the Many-Faced God are *actually* 'no-one.' Jaqen has a soft spot for Arya and the Waif disobeyed orders and broke cover because she wanted Arya to die painfully.

Not saying there aren't significant narrative flaws here, but it's entirely possible that Arya's roaring rampage of revenge is something the Many-Faced God is entirely kosher with.

I just want to see him again, that's all, lol.
 

Speevy

Banned
The Dornish have no problem killing family for...reasons. So why not the Tyrells?

Well yeah, I mean Olenna actually killed first, but Cersei doesn't know that.

It's just bizarre how this whole alliance formed.

At least they brought up the grain supply.

I was so proud of this show for showing someone who died of starvation. That has to be the first time they've shown what probably took the lives of most of these commoners during medieval times.
 

Patriots7

Member
Dragonstone has already been on the show before.

Of course, all the locations look different depending on who is visiting them.
I know they're not going to be as they're described in the books, but I just really wanted a gloomy dragon shaped castle.

I saw they show Hightower is in Old Town, but I really hope we get to just see a colossal tower. It's the largest structure in Westeros, but I feel like that'll just get glossed over.

It's hilarious, none of my buddies knew that the Tully's were the Lords of the Riverlands. Completely see why there are two threads, a lot just doesn't hit home if you haven't read the books.
 
I thought this was a good episode with some surprisingly well thought out moments. I really liked Arya's scene and The Hound's burying the dead. I also liked Euron insulting Jaime. Sophie Turner should back off trying to portray Sansa so severely because it's really obvious where they're taking this.

Did D and D write this episode? No jokes about pussies smelling like assholes.

D&D are the best writers on the show imo. They've made surprisingly few errors for the amount of things they've had to handle over the last 61 episodes.
 

TripOpt55

Member
That was a good episode. Felt like what I'd expect from a premiere episode. It was good to see Dany finally get to Westeros. Her being in Dragonstone was cool and I liked how she went right to planning instead of sitting the throne thing.

I'm not sure the opening Arya scene totally worked for me, but I think I'm just stuck on not really digging how her whole assassin training played out. I did really enjoy the scene with the Lannister soldiers. That went in an unexpected direction. I didn't realize that was the singer. I know of Ed Sheeran and have seen what he looks like before, but not enough to make the connection I guess.

The Hound scenes were excellent. I actually forgot where we had left off with him last year.

Lyanna was as awesome as ever. Everything else was pretty solid too. Excited for the rest of the season. It definitely feels like there is a ton to do with so few episodes left. Looking forward to seeing how they pull it together.
 

Patriots7

Member
Question: Why is Cersei suddenly mad at Olenna Tyrell? She killed her entire family and was forced to flee the capital.

A smart way to articulate it would be "As expected, Olenna has turned on us."
The show did Highgarden dirty and I don't know why.

They have no heirs and the strength of the Reach is just completely ignored.

I might have forgotten, but did someone kill Kevan?

D&D are the best writers on the show imo. They've made surprisingly few errors for the amount of things they've had to handle over the last 61 episodes.
I don't know if you're serious or not.
 

Speevy

Banned
I also liked how there were soldiers who had to make sure someone was there to watch over The Twins.

Someone thought of this. I have to give them credit for simple writing choices that aren't full of glaring holes.
 

Speevy

Banned
The show did Highgarden dirty and I don't know why.

They have no heirs and the strength of the Reach is just completely ignored.

I might have forgotten, but did someone kill Kevan?

He was in the giant church of people who need to die to make Cersei queen.

I was a little weirded out that Cersei considers Tommen a traitor. Like...what the fuck?
 

Gnome

Member
I also liked how there were soldiers who had to make sure someone was there to watch over The Twins.

Someone thought of this. I have to give them credit for simple writing choices that aren't full of glaring holes.

No one to watch Dragonstone though, that place isn't worth a goddamn thing. Even though it's situated right up King Landings ass crack.

Edit: Victarion didn't think to take it either. Now that he's over in Kings Landing, where is his iron fleet staying?
 

mantidor

Member
She was ready to butcher them all. It was their stories of being normal that seemed to shock her tbh. Did you see her face? "Oh these people...aren't all evil?"

She's killing them.

unfortunately, for the show, they haven't managed to understand that thin line of morality that Westeros has, (or medieval humankind for that matter). So her killing them will come as some "shock" moment, but its the only rational route for this story.
 

Speevy

Banned
She's killing them.

unfortunately, for the show, they haven't managed to understand that thin line of morality that Westeros has, (or medieval humankind for that matter). So her killing them will come as some "shock" moment, but its the only rational route for this story.

I'm waiting for that inevitable scene when Arya becomes the wrong person and the person she is trying to kill doesn't buy her story.
 
No one to watch Dragonstone though, that place isn't worth a goddamn thing. Even though it's situated right up King Landings ass crack.

Edit: Victarion didn't think to take it either. Now that he's over in Kings Landing, where is his iron fleet staying?

Yeah what the fuck was that, it was just deserted.

edit: well Cersei mentioned Daenerys was approaching from the East right? So I guess they knew it wasn't worth trying to defend it.
 

ReccaKun

Neo Member
Sam - "I didn't think it was... important."

...WHAT???

I rewatched the scene and I think what Sam was going to say was "I didn't think it was true", but he kinda trailed off. Makes sense since when someone tells you they have a mountain of something, you don't take them literally.

The next line is supposed to be "It's important, Jon needs to know".
 

Patriots7

Member
Blown up with everyone else who was in the Sept.

He was in the giant church of people who need to die to make Cersei queen.

I was a little weirded out that Cersei considers Tommen a traitor. Like...what the fuck?
Holy shit, I guess I completely forgot about that. I thought Cersei respected Kevan, or like respected his loyalty to Tywin.

This show is weird about kin killing.

Was Tommen a traitor because he let the Faith do as they please or because our boy got laid?
 
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