Punished_Snake
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Have they actually solved the intentional input lag, that makes reaction based gameplay alot worse then other fightinggames?
They reduced input lag, so yes.
Have they actually solved the intentional input lag, that makes reaction based gameplay alot worse then other fightinggames?
I want to complain again how I still have to buy stages, even after the season pass.
It ain't right man.
This. I think Capcom had also realized that, that's why they now are calling it "Characters Pass Season 2".
OP you prove that SFV works when it comes to tournaments and Pro players. It's a fun game to watch but we already knew that. The biggest fail for this game was failing to cater o the more casual FG crowd like me who don't necessarily feel like pining up for three season passes in order to get every character in the game.
OP you prove that SFV works when it comes to tournaments and Pro players. It's a fun game to watch but we already knew that. The biggest fail for this game was failing to cater o the more casual FG crowd like me who don't necessarily feel like pining up for three season passes in order to get every character in the game.
It takes an insane amount of grinding if you want to earn them all, man! And the vase game has too few characters and stages out of the gate! This game is one of the worst FGs, if not THE worst, this generation for casual fans. You'd think they'd learn a thing or two from MKX or Injustice.But you don't have to buy them. You can earn fight money to get them, too.
My issue with this is that if you do want to buy stuff, a lot of the DLC feels overpriced...and then there's the odd color items that you can't buy outright and can only use fight money to unlock.
If your first example of 'being careful" with a fireball game is fear of an ultra, I'm sorry, but you have to step back.
In SF IV those strategies were good because of the amount of gray health or damage you gained on a single fireball. He throws me once, but if he absorbs or take two fireballs (one EX for good measure and keep the opponent away) I am still on the lead.
Yes, they do have to commit. Please show me a character that can jump in on a fireball on reaction.
I can punish fireballs on reaction, but they cost me an EX bar at least.
SF V you have to be careful all the time, that's a good thing and that's why we said it's not stupid. You should be careful on how you spam your fireballs. You should be careful how to properly use them on pressure.
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SF V one combo, even without resources, hurts much more. That's why the fireball game is scary, because the fireball game now is properly risky at all times.
I'm taking specifically about Ed. You can tell by the way Capcom designed his cancels and hit confirms that they were scared of making a character who could do great damage by just slapping buttons.SF V changed a lot even on the classics characters. You can call it good, bad, but playing it safe is straight wrong.
Leo is a guy in T7 lol.And also maybe, just maybe, have a single female character I can play as who feels like someone I can self-identify with. Tekken 7 has this in Leo. SFV has no one.
I get this. Doesn't make too much sense to me that they match stages to characters, but don't give you some bundle with the character and their stage or at least put the stages in the Season Pass.I want to complain again how I still have to buy stages, even after the season pass.
It ain't right man.
Don't you have to coin/lootbox grind in MK and Injustice?It takes an insane amount of grinding if you want to earn them all, man! And the vase game has too few characters and stages out of the gate! This game is one of the worst FGs, if not THE worst, this generation for casual fans. You'd think they'd learn a thing or two from MKX or Injustice.
Don't you have to coin/lootbox grind in MK and Injustice?
It's for free gear that drops constantly. They dump free cosmetics on you in Injustice. It's easy to max a character in 40 minutes and get high level gear in another 40. Capcom locks things that by all right should be in the game for free behind a garbage survival mode and a garbage story mode. Tekken gives you all costumes for free straight out of the gate, yet Street Fighter nickel and dimes you for story costumes. Marvel is going to be even worse, seeing how Sigma and Black Panther have clearly been carved out of the base game for dlc. I won't be surprised if it's packed with on disc dlc day one.Don't you have to coin/lootbox grind in MK and Injustice?
You seem to be negelcting to mention that GGxrd was a COMPLETE AND FUNCTIONING GAME. Fully featured 100%, no half ass "We'll do it later" bullshit.
Revelator was not full price, it was more than just a character pack and it was quality. So yea, im not being a hypocrite.
Kof 13 is a beautiful game, but they decided to make Kof14 3d and it doesn't look good. Yes, low budget, but why make it 3d while you don't have a budget to make it pretty? Bad decision, but no one will blame them because they aren't Capcom.
Online has problems even after they patched it, it isn't perfect and it isn't better than SFV in regards to net code.
Also Capcom said season 2 character are all new and the old requested characters will be back in season 3 (according to the rumors and leaks). So far Kolin and Ed are popular.
I would say to wait and see if there's a sale around because of EVO recently. Then buy the game with both season passes should cost you around $40-$60. With both seasons, you will have enough FM to buy all the characters from S3 (and maybe even S4) and some stages.
Leo is gender-ambiguous. They (as in Bamco) have been playing coy with their pronouns, but either way they're as close as I'm ever going to get to a self-insert in these games.Leo is a guy in T7 lol.
Who is sajam and why does he sound like ultradavid?
One your oponent got his ultra, you pretty much couldn't use your fireball. It became a lot worse for the rest of the round, or until you eat the ultra.
You say that my first example that you had to be carefull with fireballs were ultras, yet you went over the first thing i said in my post "SF4 was full of moves with projectile invincibility". Sure, plenty of characters needed meter for those, but what? they weren't going to give most characters tools to deal with fireballs from the very beginning of the round.
And you could always jump, like you can in SFV.
don't downplay those strategies becuase they were common in high level play, and, like you said, using meter (you need meter for that ) was the most common way of dealing with them, the other being using moves that broke armor, like the tatsu.
what i meant by "So now we are acting like characters actually have to comit to a jump in SFV to get around ryu's fireballs?" was that most characters don't really have the need to jump on ryu, because between their special moves and v-skills, they can deal with ryus fireballs like they are nothing. The may want to try the jump in anyway, because of the massive payoff.
these comments make it sound like fireballs are balanced now (in SFV), and were too good before (in SFIV), yet fireballs dominating at high level play was extremely rare in SFIV.
again, who aside from daigo was able to actually play a fireball game in SFIV for the whole game's life span and still be able to consistently win at the highest level of play?
if you looked back at tournament results, you would see that most top players weren't using characters that relied on fireballs.
You think that it's more balanced that characters have an even easier time dealing with fireballs, that they did in SFIV, and also that they can punich them harder. Ok.
[SNK] did a better netcode with peanuts for a budget.
NRS animations might give you epilepsy but that game is unanimously considered better than SFV, even if the animations are shit and high level Aquaman gameplay's a joke.
Guys incase you haven't figured it out MrCarter is LoneDragon's alt.
again, who aside from daigo was able to actually play a fireball game in SFIV for the whole game's life span and still be able to consistently win at the highest level of play?
there was almost no one.
It's a bad game.EVO Top 8, for anyone who actually wants to watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec8yHxCT_tk&feature=youtu.be new link that has decent audio.
this feels like a stone you shouldn't be throwing
NRS games don't have that problem. Not because their online is great (it is) but that I find them so joyless. Injustice 2 is some monkey's paw shit where everything surrounding the game is so good and finding/playing people online is a dream but it's all for nothing because the game itself isn't fun. Injustice 2 is like a Blu-Ray Collector's Edition with 200 hours of special features but the movie itself is shit.
What?Sajam is UltraDavid. Vicious is James Chen. Soon they'll dispose of their old bodies, but now they have two a piece.
Go win EVO next year.It's a bad game.
And everything I remembered from top8 was some classy teabagging and gf roflstomping. Oh and of course those top tier throw loops only a pro can master and apply in real match.
I think SFV had some issues and missing stuff at launch that have been adressed. They also added and tweaked a lot of stuff since launch. The only big fault right now is the Arcade Mode, but other than that it's an awesome game.
Really fun to play, amazing gameplay (but they can improve the )input lag with great viuals and some great ideas to improve the gameplay over SFIV...
Once they add the Arcade Mode, Vol II of the story mode and and the EX Battle node it will be hard to understand complains about it.
Unbalanced yet eight different characters in top 8 Evo 2017.
SFV has some problems, but balance is not one of them. Could it be even more balanced? Sure, but balance in this game is a positive.
Crossing the ocean to playGo win EVO next year.
? I don't hate myself that much.It's a bad game.
I still complain about FF14 ver 1.0. The fact I'm having a blast with FF14 now doesn't mean the original release still wasn't garbage. We're just passed it, but the launch version sucked and I won't by shy about saying so even as I enjoy the rebuilt version.People can and will still complain about what the game used to be regardless of what it becomes. SFV hurt them and they're going to let the world know.
'SF4 was considered bad at release' is my favorite piece of revisionist history.
The whole reason I got into the genre in the first place was because of the aesthetic. The mechanics are important, yes, but they're quite literally only half the game. The presentation is the other half, and as far as I'm concerned they dropped the ball hard with those character designs.
Left old, Right new
3 of them are in top 8 constantly. Your not going to see characters like Ken, Ryu, Nash, Alex and a few others outside of specialist.
Jab AA and Throw Loops are not part of the problem in the game balance? As well as some Crush Counters that has high Priority and is Safe/Plus?
Lol yeah oK.
It takes an insane amount of grinding if you want to earn them all, man! And the vase game has too few characters and stages out of the gate! This game is one of the worst FGs, if not THE worst, this generation for casual fans. You'd think they'd learn a thing or two from MKX or Injustice.
The fuck is specialist?3 of them are in top 8 constantly. Your not going to see characters like Ken, Ryu, Nash, Alex and a few others outside of specialist.
SF4 was not trashed at launch. You had a bunch of the old guard who didn't take to it right away for it's various changes, reluctance towards the ultra system, and the focus attacks. That and the cast for Arcade was fairly small. The Console SF IV launch was glorious and a tons of fun. The GameStop tournament was a lot of fun. Those same people, most I'd say, drank the SF 4 kool aid and it's been a hell of a ride since.What? SF4 was thrashed at launch. People hated the new mechanics, the characters, and the laughably bad balance.
That's not even the lowest SFV has sunk in regards to shameless fanservice.
Do you remember pre-patch Cammy?
I've never heard a more apt comparison in my life.Injustice 2 is like a Blu-Ray Collector's Edition with 200 hours of special features but the movie itself is shit.
This is horseshit and you know it. I'll go as far as saying you're knowingly lying with that statement and you're part of the problem. There's plenty of material to shit on SFV over, subjective or objective, but comparing SFV's netcode to KOF and to say KOF's is better is absurd. KOFXIV might as well not even have netcode for all the good it does.
That conclusion is in no way unanimous. Every fighting game released this year disappointed me in some way, most of them in their netcode and matchmaking being so poor it was extremely difficult just to play a fun game with other people.
NRS games don't have that problem. Not because their online is great (it is) but that I find them so joyless. Injustice 2 is some monkey's paw shit where everything surrounding the game is so good and finding/playing people online is a dream but it's all for nothing because the game itself isn't fun. Injustice 2 is like a Blu-Ray Collector's Edition with 200 hours of special features but the movie itself is shit.
It takes an insane amount of grinding if you want to earn them all, man! And the vase game has too few characters and stages out of the gate! This game is one of the worst FGs, if not THE worst, this generation for casual fans. You'd think they'd learn a thing or two from MKX or Injustice.
3 of them are in top 8 constantly. Your not going to see characters like Ken, Ryu, Nash, Alex and a few others outside of specialist.
Jab AA and Throw Loops are not part of the problem in the game balance? As well as some Crush Counters that has high Priority and is Safe/Plus?
Lol yeah oK.
NRS animations might give you epilepsy but that game is unanimously considered better than SFV, even if the animations are shit and high level Aquaman gameplay's a joke.
What? SF4 was thrashed at launch. People hated the new mechanics, the characters, and the laughably bad balance.
That's not even the lowest SFV has sunk in regards to shameless fanservice.
Do you remember pre-patch Cammy?
Much better than Holy Trinity of Ken, Chun, and Yun from the 3S days.3 of them are in top 8 constantly. Your not going to see characters like Ken, Ryu, Nash, Alex and a few others outside of specialist.