I hear ya. That's what I meant when I said not necessarily indicative. Some of the stuff is locked in so I get the frustration with that.
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Destiny 2 Beta |OT| Garry's Mod
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I hear ya. That's what I meant when I said not necessarily indicative. Some of the stuff is locked in so I get the frustration with that.
Gordon0Freeman
Member
PvP is essentially almost perfect for me. I prefer the less chaotic 4v4 so much more. I do hope there are 6v6 playlists in the final product for those that prefer that play style.
wesleyshark
Banned
This is one change I'm cool with for sure
Weapons that break ammo economy rules were a pain in Bungie's side for the entire duration of Destiny. Black Hammer, Ice Breaker, Universal Remote, Sidearms, No Land Beyond, Vex Mythoclast... all of these primary-special hybrids, or specials that broke ammo restrictions, made balancing extremely tricky for them. I highly doubt they'll go down that road again.
The Hamburglar
Banned
Is it too late to get on the beta?
Jest Chillin
Member
There seems to be an infusion system, though how it's going to work isn't clear.
Dupes with better rolls were just as important in PvE as they were in PvP. It's why I still main'd my Y2 Hung Jury even as recent as Age of Triumph. Getting crap rolls on guns always sucked. Set perks remove one element of RNG and that's a good thing.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
No I don't even think it's open to the public yet.
AgentOtaku
Member
So I had Destiny 2 preordered from BestBuy. I ended up buying it on PSN digitally and I cancelled my order yesterday. They cancelled part of my order, but are now charging me $19.99 for the BETA code. Is this normal for BestBuy? Feels shady and I'm going to try and get a refund but still, jeez.
At least get the value right. $19.99 for 3 days of early access to one story mission, one strike, and two crucible maps?
They Did the same thing to me
Cancelled the ps-pro bundle cause i wanted a drum set instead and yeah, was charged $20
Right which is why I'm saying I'm going to wait to say one way or the other whether this is a good decision on dupes. Interested to see how they handle it.
With regards to PvE; I was quite confidently able to do any high end content with any perk so long as my light level met the bare minimum requirements. In Trials Perks played a far more significant role given that youre playing against other skilled players where the room for error was much smaller.
And I agree, crap rolls shouldn't be a thing: which is why I'd say the solution should have been to not give crap rolls but more viable rolls rather than getting rid of them outright. Well, thats one solution of many. Again lets see how they handle it.
BoBoThunder
Member
So I have a quick question. Anyone else feeling like Hunters are getting screwed over a bit? Warlocks can auto heal AND discovered how to incorporate the Twilight Garrison dodging, flaming swords, air battles. Titans have Capt's shield, barriers that completely reload weapon, the bubble, multiple slams. Hunter get a hit table dodge that reloads. More gunslinger shots and an elec staff that lets you infinite dodge.
My concern: without the supers, hunters feel way less useful than the other two classes. Maybe it's just me? But I gotta rep the hunter since Nathan Fillion is my man crush.
Thoughts?
My concern: without the supers, hunters feel way less useful than the other two classes. Maybe it's just me? But I gotta rep the hunter since Nathan Fillion is my man crush.
Thoughts?
Agree that the dodge is weak compared to the other two. I personally like the Hunters super over the Titan and Warlock but that's just my preference. Definitely feels like that they wanted to make the other characters more attractive in regards to abilities.
They need to either bring the cool down on this dodge a ton, or make it so Hunters can use that ability quickly (like Warlock's dodge) and the only proc the class perk (reload or whatever) when the slow cool down is ready.
Jason Shreier on his podcast today said it feels like raids will exclude hunters in favor of warlocks and titans (titans confirmed best class)
Jest Chillin
Member
I'd argue that even in Trials, you could do it without having the perfect rolls. I hit the lighthouse multiple times and I was never the type to farm or hit vendors every refresh searching for that godroll.
As for the solution being to not give crap rolls.. that's not possible. Because there really were only a very small few perks that were absolutely useless. Yet everything that wasn't the absolute most efficient combo of rolls was considered a crap roll by the community. Just like PUG raid runs would "require" having specific loadouts (must have Gjall type of stuff). These things aren't necessary to do any of the content be it PvE or PvP. But the community sets the standard and imposes the "rules" that form the perception.
Agree with this too. The dodge is too damn slow and deliberate. Someone had mentioned the dodge triggering invincibility for a bit. That's kind of cool.
It's almost like people forget Nightstalker exists.
Hunters have been getting continually shafted since vanilla. Gunslinger actually doing alright? Too bad we're removing tripmine's sticking. Bladedancer actually useful? Say goodbye to Blink usability, arcbolt and basically any reason to use the class outside of invis.
They threw Hunters a bone with Nightstalker actually not being dogshit, but unless they're keeping that one under wraps until launch or something we aren't getting that. So yea, basically Bungie hates Hunters.
They still have the other three or are doing something different?
And people only wanted Hunters for the PoE invis haha.
Yes, there are 2 types of them now, Linear fusion and just fusion. Both are in the Power slot.
energetic.snail
Neo Member
That's pretty cool
100% agree even though I voted Hunter in the poll. The only thing Hunters have going for them in the beta is AoE Group +Reload Speed from Precision shots. (Chain of Woe Buff)
I'm not even sure if we are getting 3 sub classes to be honest, you would think they would let us know by now. They are probably saving it for an expansion.
They are, but they're in the heavy slot. And there's two kinds of fusion rifle now, the kind that was in the first game and a sniper variant that fires a single long range shot, like the Queen's Bow in Destiny 1.
Twilight Gap
Member
Hunters are outclassed in PvP and PvE. One subclass does not a class make.
EL CUCO
Member
Currently the go to power weapon in PvP 👀
No I agree if youre good enough you can do trials with whatever. My argument is, the marginal gains in trials is more important than the marginal gains in PvE with regards to weapon perks.
And disagree about not being able to give you enough good perks. People will set arbitrary rules but doesn't mean that efficient and unique perks can't coexist if Bungie got creative. Not really sure perks can be comparable to entire weapon types and specific guns (ala gally) either. Thats a pretty substantial difference in utility there.
They are, yes. You get one with the Warlock in the beta.
JetBlackPanda
Member
You can also get a linear fusion rifle power weapon. Think rail gun sniper. Its pretty cool.
Nyteshade517
Member
they can also be earned as Strike or PVP rewards
I picked Warlock and yes you start with it but I did get a duplicate as a Strike reward
I'm probably playing Titan if nothing changes for Hunters between now and the PC launch.
Twilight Gap
Member
Was firing a Pulse Rifle
But I thought it was an Auto Rifle
Because they look and sound pretty much the same
Thanks Bungie.
But I thought it was an Auto Rifle
Because they look and sound pretty much the same
Thanks Bungie.
franklyshankly
Member
Is nightstalker confirmed to be back for D2? I thought it was just arcstrider and gunslinger so far.
therealminime
Member
Played one match of each mode. Yep, still fucking hate everything about Destiny multiplayer.
The entire point of a beta is to give feedback. This post makes absolutely no sense.
EL CUCO
Member
Thank God
Yeah I can't get over it. It just seems the enemy does more damage to me. I can melee an enemy twice and they keep going. I get meleed once and die.
HawksWinStanley
Member
So I had Destiny 2 preordered from BestBuy. I ended up buying it on PSN digitally and I cancelled my order yesterday. They cancelled part of my order, but are now charging me $19.99 for the BETA code. Is this normal for BestBuy? Feels shady and I'm going to try and get a refund but still, jeez.
At least get the value right. $19.99 for 3 days of early access to one story mission, one strike, and two crucible maps?
Have people been successfully getting refunds after this? A buddy of mine did the same thing but accidentally ordered the digital copy from Best Buy and then realized his mistake and cancelled and then reordered the physical copy.
He hasn't called yet but I can't imagine he'll have problems getting his money back, especially since he's still doing business with them and it was just a mistake. What an incredibly stupid policy...
blue_phazon
Member
You can probably have an entire team of titans be ideal for the raid lol
SlickShoes
Member
I am at odds with this demo (beta), the first games demo made me want to play it and this one sort of doesn't.
It feels like the direction they are going is even further away from MMO lite and just to some thing with 4 separate activities to do.
The shooting still feels good but the beta just turns me off the game if this is what it will be like.
It feels like the direction they are going is even further away from MMO lite and just to some thing with 4 separate activities to do.
The shooting still feels good but the beta just turns me off the game if this is what it will be like.
Jest Chillin
Member
I wasn't comparing the two. I was using the "must have Gjall" thing as an example of the community creating rules that become the standard.
Which is the reason why the term "godroll" even exists. I'm speaking from experience, as it happens in every game that allows for different builds/loadouts/equipment tiers that directly effect efficiency. It's not possible to create stuff that's meaningfully "different but the same." Something will always be more efficient and that because the standard set by the community.
The entire idea that something could be popular or acceptable if it was creatively different enough comes from games where literally everything about an item is randomized, so making picture perfect copies of builds becomes pretty much impossible. In a game with controlled itemization like Destiny, that's not going to happen.
I can only work with so much!
therealminime
Member
Yeah, I had supers disappear (maybe it hit the wall beside me, I dunno), one dude on the other team had shotgun/fusion rifle ammo the entire time too. They've taken the multiplayer from an insta kill shit show to now there are no abilities. I don't know exactly what it is but I just fundamentally do not ever have fun with Destiny's PvP. Which is fine. I now know I can just stick to the PvE as usual in D2 at launch.
The PvE stuff in the beta left me just wanting to desperately keep playing PvE content.
JetBlackPanda
Member
when you say "this is what it will be like" what are you talking about? the gunplay? etc?
because the game will have social spaces and stuff to do just like D1.
Wind's Howling
Member
Can we preload the open beta already? I can't seem to find anything on the PS4 store.
Reallink
Member
So I had Destiny 2 preordered from BestBuy. I ended up buying it on PSN digitally and I cancelled my order yesterday. They cancelled part of my order, but are now charging me $19.99 for the BETA code. Is this normal for BestBuy? Feels shady and I'm going to try and get a refund but still, jeez.
At least get the value right. $19.99 for 3 days of early access to one story mission, one strike, and two crucible maps?
Holy fucking shit, you need to make a new thread on that, that's shady as fuck. 100% illegal as well if the beta code wasn't broken out and listed as a $20 add-on at time of purchase. Retailers do not pay a dime for these codes.
Don't agree with a lot of that. Might help if you can provide comparison clips. My enemies still staggered. There are more particle effects though. Maybe you don't like it as flashy?
Not sure about the screen shake. I never noticed anything.
Sounds seem fine to me. Might need more distinct sound profiles. THey did a feature on the sounds of Destiny I think. They seperated out how the mix is in PvE and PvP. Wonder if thats why?
UI looks clean as ever. I thought it is more minimal but wasn't a problem for me.
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I don't deny you are having these issues, but calling it the worst bungie shooter is such a reach.
because reach was the worst