Alright, trying higher difficulties coop. Been having a bitch of a time even getting the evo mats to drop. Hope I didn't procrastinate too long. Much like real MonHun, RNG is a real piece of shit in this dungeon.
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Puzzle & Dragons |OT4| Co-op Edition: Stoning With Friends
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It sucks. The purplefur rare material for the blue male Hunter is a rare drop from Mizutsune who only has a 50% chance to appear on floor 1. One day I had the red boss Glavenus appear 8 times in a row instead of Mizutsune. Then it took a lot of Mizutsune appearances to get the diamond drop.
Edit. This is for 2p co-op, haven't done 3p.
If anyone's interested in running 3p coop Monster Hunter let me know. I'd rather farm up the skill ups I need for Glav and Narga. I have a guaranteed kill team on my main (any floor), My alt can reliably kill FL2, so if anyone has a clean 1 shot for floor 1 or 3 let me know. It's really quick if everyone's prepared for it.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
IMO the order you should be doing it is run solo/2P until you get all the common mats you need for the hunters you want, then run 3P for the rare mats, then run 2P until you finish skilling up your hunters, then run 3P to skill up REM pulls til the cows come home
Wait, do we really only get C11 for 24 hours after we activate it? I mean, I get that it's a gift dungeon, but that doesn't seem like a lot of time for trying different strategies. I can't quite balance just below 10 million, so the strategy I'm currently aiming for will involve grinding her down near 50%, knocking her below with Chester, and using a couple Sakuya actives to get her to around 30 million HP, so depending on where exactly she was when I popped Chester, 5-6 million damage per card should do the trick.
I'll have to gain a rank or two on my alt before I activate the dungeon, though. With the big HP badge, the cost of the team I want to use (Meri, Ryune, A. Nene, Wetatron, A. Karin) is just 1 higher than the allowed team cost. Or I could replace the Wetatron with something cheaper, but her 2 sb are pretty important to having a board-change ready to go. I think my best alternative for that slot is B/D Alrescha (good thing I didn't activate her God Killer awakening). Depending on how things go on my alt, my main might do the same or try Anubis X Diablos.
Are the drops on 3p really that much better? You're spending almost 4x the stamina you would to 2p coop the highest difficulty.
I'll have to gain a rank or two on my alt before I activate the dungeon, though. With the big HP badge, the cost of the team I want to use (Meri, Ryune, A. Nene, Wetatron, A. Karin) is just 1 higher than the allowed team cost. Or I could replace the Wetatron with something cheaper, but her 2 sb are pretty important to having a board-change ready to go. I think my best alternative for that slot is B/D Alrescha (good thing I didn't activate her God Killer awakening). Depending on how things go on my alt, my main might do the same or try Anubis X Diablos.
Are the drops on 3p really that much better? You're spending almost 4x the stamina you would to 2p coop the highest difficulty.
tiltnkirby
Member
I spent about 3 days in 2p to get one mizu rare drop. I could finish at least two of each other hunter once it was all over.
It's more fun to run. I farmed the shit out of Thief Descended for +'s and spent most of yesterday's stamina getting Cthulhu evo'ed. I need skill ups for Glavenus and Nargacuda (the actual monsters, not the hunter armors) and the 25% chance to get what I'm looking for is better than the chance of getting the bits from even the Ultra G rank level. I mean I could be burning the stam in arena for the py's to basically do the same thing. I'm not super concerned about stamina management as I am about time. I don't have a ton of time to throw at the game lately so whatever gets me what I need the fastest is generally the direction I want to go.
Brian Griffin
Member
Finished C9 and 10 last night.
Kept my tradition going of beating the No RCV dungeon with Myr in coop and used blue hunter for C10 but used a stone on final floor because I was out of stamina to run again.
C11 looks doable with Minerva, or maybe even Minerva/Venus. Venus won't get dmg from M's LS but that might be an ok trade off for the extra resist since I don't have Venus. I also don't know if I have more than one 20% grav, which could be the bigger problem.
Kept my tradition going of beating the No RCV dungeon with Myr in coop and used blue hunter for C10 but used a stone on final floor because I was out of stamina to run again.
C11 looks doable with Minerva, or maybe even Minerva/Venus. Venus won't get dmg from M's LS but that might be an ok trade off for the extra resist since I don't have Venus. I also don't know if I have more than one 20% grav, which could be the bigger problem.
Yea I always do the no rcv with myr/Izinagi.
C10 done with Revo kush. C11 done with Revo Venus, went through all the mechanics down to 50% and below, she healed went blue. Then I did Revo Apollo from full health was about 7mil per card, used Thor burst with Apoc and that got her <20% she killed me and I just stoned to finish her off with rdqxq and vaan actives.
I want to do 3p at least once for the stone. I can clear floor 3 in 1 shot.
Just give me a heads up when. Later in the night works best.
Like 10 or 11 est?
sounds good, just ping me on Discord around then.
Yeah that damn purple fur took me days. I ran it on 1.5 drop days and when I finally got it I had all the mats to max skill all 3 of my hunters.
Ok. In 3p, skill boosts aren't shared among the 3 teams are they?
Astalos was my free roll. I yolo rolled another two times and got glavenus and ratheus? green delay one. They might be useful.
Edit: also Grats on Amastsu, would of loved one of those.
Correct, BYOSB
Same with SBR.
This is basically what I've been thinking about with Meri. I can get to 8 SB, but then I have to run at least one sub-optimal sub (like wetatron or orochi) OR I can run Sumire for 7SB, use her active for haste and have andromeda up. I think I'm going to try UEvo Gabe/UEvo Andro/A. NeNe/Sumire with a gravity inherit or two as assists. I'm going to try to stall out the tests, hit her a few times, then gravity her below 50% and try to burst. I'm going to try for like twenty consecutive blue, one row and a few extra combos. I think that'll get me there, but we'll see. I still haven't opened it yet. Maybe tonight.
Then Minerva Cheese as a backup. I accept that I may need to spend a stone or two for this, for stamina if nothing else.
Brian Griffin
Member
C11 down first try on my main with Minerva/Minerva. Hell yeah this feels good!
Followed this video almost exactly with Krishna instead of Leilan, my alt's Minerva lead, and HP badge. They used attack badge but I hit waaay over 10mil in endless tests with it, likely because of the extra enhances on Krishna. I also think I was leaving too many enhanced reds on the board when I used board change, which I didn't do for the real attempt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lhlxwLzIY4
Got her to around 50% with as few enhanced orbs as possible. One 10% gravity, two 20%, Saria, heart break, Revo Freyr and made two fire rows. I think I even skyfell to 7c (no red matches though) and Red Valk still stayed under.
This is the first super hard "gift" dungeon that actually feels like a gift. Now to put all my assists back to what they were haha.
EDIT: Alt cleared it second try because I let her heal and forgot about the 95% murder threshold. Used a very similar setup but I think I actually needed the 7c this time because the cards were all maxed like my mains. WHEW, what a rush.
Followed this video almost exactly with Krishna instead of Leilan, my alt's Minerva lead, and HP badge. They used attack badge but I hit waaay over 10mil in endless tests with it, likely because of the extra enhances on Krishna. I also think I was leaving too many enhanced reds on the board when I used board change, which I didn't do for the real attempt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lhlxwLzIY4
Got her to around 50% with as few enhanced orbs as possible. One 10% gravity, two 20%, Saria, heart break, Revo Freyr and made two fire rows. I think I even skyfell to 7c (no red matches though) and Red Valk still stayed under.
This is the first super hard "gift" dungeon that actually feels like a gift. Now to put all my assists back to what they were haha.
EDIT: Alt cleared it second try because I let her heal and forgot about the 95% murder threshold. Used a very similar setup but I think I actually needed the 7c this time because the cards were all maxed like my mains. WHEW, what a rush.
Brian Griffin
Member
Thanks! Yeah the limit was the most stressful part of it. It may have well been 5 since that was all the time I had to play last night and wouldn't really be able to fully focus on it today.
iphone bricked again while doing another software update. Awesome. Well I'm officially done with PAD now until Gung Ho fixes its stupid account backup shit because I'm not going thru that week long shitshow again and filling out their dipshitted questionnaire.
edit: never did get that purple fur. Burned like 1,200 stamina between my 2 accounts trying to get it, so fuck this game anyways. Peace out bitches.
edit: never did get that purple fur. Burned like 1,200 stamina between my 2 accounts trying to get it, so fuck this game anyways. Peace out bitches.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I haven't updated my phone in months cause I'm afraid of the same thing happening lol
I mean, it backs the phone up before attempting the update, so the restoration of the phone AND LITERALLY EVERY GAME AND APP ON IT is simple and takes just a few minutes. But PAD's such an archaic piece of shit that isn't tied or sync'd to anything. Washing my hands of this.
Brian Griffin
Member
Yep. My phone prompts me daily to upgrade to the latest Android version and I've been declining it every day for most my 650+ days of PAD. However, when I started PAD it actually wouldn't work with the latest version so I declined as a necessity. Now I just fear change because everything works fine.
tiltnkirby
Member
Yeah, you'd have to be crazy to have some extras around and willing to give it away.
I don't think we're friends 306,982,261
Well, managed to clear C11 on my main, but not on my alt. I know there's still time, but I don't want to stone for stamina. Stones are only for pulls, box space, and sometimes friend slots, as far as I'm concerned.
Final team on my main was Meri (Gan Ning), Ryune, Summurd (Meri, just because I already had her there), Skuld, Sarasvati (Bester), Meri (Sakuya). I stalled through all of her tests one or two at a time. Part of that was getting lucky with heart orbs falling, and part of it was having three board-changers that included hearts. I also triggered her to use resurrection, but Gan Ning took care of the locked orbs and knocked her back into the safe zone. I'm pretty sure I knocked her back below 50%, but she didn't heal a second time, so I was able to smash her down in another couple of hits. Sakuya never ended up coming up.
I think the reason my alt failed was that it only had two heart-makers on the team, so it couldn't heal as often.
Final team on my main was Meri (Gan Ning), Ryune, Summurd (Meri, just because I already had her there), Skuld, Sarasvati (Bester), Meri (Sakuya). I stalled through all of her tests one or two at a time. Part of that was getting lucky with heart orbs falling, and part of it was having three board-changers that included hearts. I also triggered her to use resurrection, but Gan Ning took care of the locked orbs and knocked her back into the safe zone. I'm pretty sure I knocked her back below 50%, but she didn't heal a second time, so I was able to smash her down in another couple of hits. Sakuya never ended up coming up.
I think the reason my alt failed was that it only had two heart-makers on the team, so it couldn't heal as often.
Oh god, i had a mad lucky last minute pull on friday. I was contemplating on buying an addtional pack for MH Collab rolls, but i could not convince myself because i already bought one on the start of the event and pulled only 5* with it. Over the course of the event i farmed up stones from tri monster challenge and did 4 more rolls, i got my first 6* with Glavenus, not bad. Friday i was at 5 stones, and as i logged in, i saw that i got some stones for my 1650 day login.
Rolled...
DIABLOS!
Rolled...
DIABLOS!
Nice pull!
I'm pretty happy overall with how MonHun collab went for me. I got almost everything I wanted out of the REM (No Astalos, Kirin, or Diablos, but everything else I wanted). The 3p Dungeon was really fun to build for. Having each player bring a no-nonsense kill team is a nice change from the stall fest 3p Cosmic Trinity/Arena is. Thanks to the Glav x Hunter I now have solid co-op farm teams instead of total jank to work with on my alt. I ran a couple test runs of Special Descend Rush and Z8 to make sure everything works like it's supposed to and sure enough everything went smooth so I don't have a beg for a partner on the Discord as much.
I'm bummed we lose the cool splash screen and music though. I'm really hoping the norn ults are next up on the docket for this update because that's going to open up a ton of team possibilities. I'm worried the Bride REM is next. I had planned on getting a pack and praying for light akechi or foolishly, Persephone or Scheat but I don't think it'll be something I can do for this if it happens real soon. Looks like I have at least a week respite though.
I got a ton of +297's and hypered a bunch of useful cards even as inherits for the stat transfer. I prepped all my "Extra Latent Tamas" so they'll be ready when I find worthy monsters. All in all this has been a great event and kept me wanting to play all week.
I'm pretty happy overall with how MonHun collab went for me. I got almost everything I wanted out of the REM (No Astalos, Kirin, or Diablos, but everything else I wanted). The 3p Dungeon was really fun to build for. Having each player bring a no-nonsense kill team is a nice change from the stall fest 3p Cosmic Trinity/Arena is. Thanks to the Glav x Hunter I now have solid co-op farm teams instead of total jank to work with on my alt. I ran a couple test runs of Special Descend Rush and Z8 to make sure everything works like it's supposed to and sure enough everything went smooth so I don't have a beg for a partner on the Discord as much.
I'm bummed we lose the cool splash screen and music though. I'm really hoping the norn ults are next up on the docket for this update because that's going to open up a ton of team possibilities. I'm worried the Bride REM is next. I had planned on getting a pack and praying for light akechi or foolishly, Persephone or Scheat but I don't think it'll be something I can do for this if it happens real soon. Looks like I have at least a week respite though.
I got a ton of +297's and hypered a bunch of useful cards even as inherits for the stat transfer. I prepped all my "Extra Latent Tamas" so they'll be ready when I find worthy monsters. All in all this has been a great event and kept me wanting to play all week.
I think the bridefest is next, but maybe they fast lane it, because beach REM should come up very soon and time taught us that seasonal REMs and events are almost simultanous on both servers...
BMyr evolution maybe? please? ...
I'm ashamed i missed hearing the music from MH collab, i always play without sound...
BMyr evolution maybe? please? ...
I'm ashamed i missed hearing the music from MH collab, i always play without sound...
tiltnkirby
Member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8X2MEEmC0g
The arena music from cross/generations. Just pretend orb movement sounds are playing during it.
Doesn't it tie to your gamecenter profile?
I saved 3 extra purplefurs to trade later.
Odd weekend.
First up was that bastard C11. It took me like eight tries before I beat it with Meri. Bringing a lot of heartmakers and a couple of gravities was what helped. Boy did it suck though.
Then it was my best friend's birthday and we spent hours on Friday night trying to get his Meri through it. Took two stones for continues before he could do it. We had to change his lineup a bunch of times before we hit the sweet spot of HP, RCV, and heart actives, but we got there eventually.
Then, MH grinding the rest of the weekend. I was trying to skill up my own hunters (which I did) and then help my wife and daughter get enough to make some evolutions. Neither is on top of the game enough to run 3p, so that wasn't an option. Two nearly solid days of running MH and my wife could only make the green male--she had the six star for the purple female, but never got a second of one of the common mats for it; she stopped after midnight last night. My daughter never saw a single 6* that could result in an evolution, for either hunter. It was an amazing drought.
At this point, I can firmly say that, despite some of the really cool ideas they brought with the MH collab, the execution really lacked. I get that RNG is real, but it sucks to run a dungeon 30+ times and never see a required drop for an evolution out of six possibilities.
Also, due to MH and the crazy challenge dungeons, I only ended up with 2 +297 mules from the descended promotion. Any other week and I'd have had more time to do it. Like now, when nothing important is going on.
First up was that bastard C11. It took me like eight tries before I beat it with Meri. Bringing a lot of heartmakers and a couple of gravities was what helped. Boy did it suck though.
Then it was my best friend's birthday and we spent hours on Friday night trying to get his Meri through it. Took two stones for continues before he could do it. We had to change his lineup a bunch of times before we hit the sweet spot of HP, RCV, and heart actives, but we got there eventually.
Then, MH grinding the rest of the weekend. I was trying to skill up my own hunters (which I did) and then help my wife and daughter get enough to make some evolutions. Neither is on top of the game enough to run 3p, so that wasn't an option. Two nearly solid days of running MH and my wife could only make the green male--she had the six star for the purple female, but never got a second of one of the common mats for it; she stopped after midnight last night. My daughter never saw a single 6* that could result in an evolution, for either hunter. It was an amazing drought.
At this point, I can firmly say that, despite some of the really cool ideas they brought with the MH collab, the execution really lacked. I get that RNG is real, but it sucks to run a dungeon 30+ times and never see a required drop for an evolution out of six possibilities.
Also, due to MH and the crazy challenge dungeons, I only ended up with 2 +297 mules from the descended promotion. Any other week and I'd have had more time to do it. Like now, when nothing important is going on.
Ran MH maybe 100 times and got 0 purple furs.
All I needed for the blue hunter. Oh well, not like he will ever be used most likely.
Game is honestly getting a bit stale. Evoes really don't add much and the gameplay is still fine but there haven't been much that really encourages play.
All I needed for the blue hunter. Oh well, not like he will ever be used most likely.
Game is honestly getting a bit stale. Evoes really don't add much and the gameplay is still fine but there haven't been much that really encourages play.
I'm really sorry to hear that man. If I'd have known I could carry you guys through 3p. With any luck it'll come back around when MH: World launches. I really think they should have put the rare mats in the MP shop. At least that way you had an out if you were strapped for time or RNG screwed you over.
I appreciate that. I actually got my hunters together earlier in the week, so it isn't so bad for me. It would have been nice to have an MP option as well. Honestly, I doubt either one would have cared too much, but it was like they gave them something cool, but then sort of took it back. Neither would have cared at all, if they didn't have these unevo'd hunters sitting in their box, looking sad and useless. My daughter wanted the blue male and dark female, but, by the end, she would have taken anything. We just kept getting six star drops that didn't tie to evos. In particular, we must have gotten astalos shell, vphalk rachis, and tigrex hardfang like 3-4 times each. My wife's experience was particularly frustrating, as she just needed a second blackfur for the dark female hunter. She had the flipping six star mat, but couldn't get a second of the common one to drop. She kept stoning for stamina after I went to bed, and still couldn't get the damn thing. She only quit after she began falling asleep while playing. That is some bullshit.
If they are still interested in evoing their hunters, let me know. I have a stockpile of 6* materials that I don't need (Narga Heavy Fang, Purplefur, Amatsu Carapace, Massacre Gouging horn). Do keep in mind that it is limited, but I'm more than willing to help out fellow players.
This offer also goes to anyone who needs these items too. Just send me a message and I'll add you.
Mostly unrelated to MH talk but now that Follow Up Attack is a thing, can Meri One shot Cthulhu while also activating FUA? You lose out on rows so you build for OE. The Blue Wisdom Dragon (5x attack spike) plus a shitload of OE and killers might still be enough to push it over the edge. You'd need ~40 million water damage before the spike, which normally isn't a big ask of Meri, but no rows is a hell of a handicap. The trick is getting 5 hearts but a unicorn rider (or Mel) inherit fixes that.
The ideal strategy would be something like:
Toshiro (make a blue board) (Ryune-->Meri also works, same with Nene-->Scheat)
Ars Paulina (Enhance the board)
Liene (Unicorn Rider)/Mel/etc (Make a heart row)
5x spike
Make heart column (not sure if it's better to pool orbs and make 2 total combos, or split it up for 3).
If it's enough the question becomes, is this a reliable way to also down Nyarlathotep (without the FUA of course) and can it survive Azathoth and the rest of the dungeon?
Meri
<Follow Up Attack Slot, Skuld or Amatsu ideally> (5x Spike)
<Double SBR sub> (Toshiro Hitsugaya)
Xmas Ars Paulina (or Beach Escha with enhance inherit)
<Double SBR Sub if running with Xmas Paulina> (Mel/Liene)
Meri
Save Meri actives for use in the dungeon.
Potential double SBR subs:
Awoken/Revo I&I
Super Ult Andromeda
Awoken Nene
Another Justice
Alrecsha
Grimmjow (don't use him)
Barbarossa
Beach Meta
Kundali
Julie (post JP buff)
Corin (Voltron Collab, don't use him either)
Out of the options above I like Kundali best as a base, he can accept Devil Killers, Coop boost goes a long way in this dungeon, and his base active is still useful if stalling isn't an option. Julie would be a great option if she had her JP buff as she's the only one with dragon or devil killer. We're not worried about rows since we can't get any on the kill shot.
Special cases:
Beach Chester
Rukia
I like Rukia cause that frees up a slot for a blue sub with only 1 sbr that has Dragon or Devil Killer (Sharon, B/L Hermes). Or even just a really buff stat stick like You Yu or Blue Hunter.
I think I'll play around in endless but my current thought is something like:
Meri
Amatsu (Spike)
Rukia (Mel)
Mizu X (Toshiro)
Ars Paulina
Meri
My main concern is making sure I can stall up actives and get to the end. Once there I think this will be enough to kill.
EDIT: Endless testing shows Blue Hunter alone is almost enough to one shot Cthulhu making three combos and if it weren't for the type mismatch he'd be able to one shot Nyarlathotep too off a full blue enhanced board. In order to 100% survive Azathoth I'd need my entire team decked out in dark resists which isn't an option. I could bring a sub with Dark Resist natively Like Dark Knight Cecil or Light Zhuge Liang (LZL even enhances water orbs). But even then I'd need 10-15 dark resist across the team. More doable but still a pain in the ass. I'll probably try running the team a couple times to see how it handles the rest of the dungeon before I invest.
Not enough HP on the team to tank Azathoth though so it's not a bullet proof clear.
The ideal strategy would be something like:
Toshiro (make a blue board) (Ryune-->Meri also works, same with Nene-->Scheat)
Ars Paulina (Enhance the board)
Liene (Unicorn Rider)/Mel/etc (Make a heart row)
5x spike
Make heart column (not sure if it's better to pool orbs and make 2 total combos, or split it up for 3).
If it's enough the question becomes, is this a reliable way to also down Nyarlathotep (without the FUA of course) and can it survive Azathoth and the rest of the dungeon?
Meri
<Follow Up Attack Slot, Skuld or Amatsu ideally> (5x Spike)
<Double SBR sub> (Toshiro Hitsugaya)
Xmas Ars Paulina (or Beach Escha with enhance inherit)
<Double SBR Sub if running with Xmas Paulina> (Mel/Liene)
Meri
Save Meri actives for use in the dungeon.
Potential double SBR subs:
Awoken/Revo I&I
Super Ult Andromeda
Awoken Nene
Another Justice
Alrecsha
Grimmjow (don't use him)
Barbarossa
Beach Meta
Kundali
Julie (post JP buff)
Corin (Voltron Collab, don't use him either)
Out of the options above I like Kundali best as a base, he can accept Devil Killers, Coop boost goes a long way in this dungeon, and his base active is still useful if stalling isn't an option. Julie would be a great option if she had her JP buff as she's the only one with dragon or devil killer. We're not worried about rows since we can't get any on the kill shot.
Special cases:
Beach Chester
Rukia
I like Rukia cause that frees up a slot for a blue sub with only 1 sbr that has Dragon or Devil Killer (Sharon, B/L Hermes). Or even just a really buff stat stick like You Yu or Blue Hunter.
I think I'll play around in endless but my current thought is something like:
Meri
Amatsu (Spike)
Rukia (Mel)
Mizu X (Toshiro)
Ars Paulina
Meri
My main concern is making sure I can stall up actives and get to the end. Once there I think this will be enough to kill.
EDIT: Endless testing shows Blue Hunter alone is almost enough to one shot Cthulhu making three combos and if it weren't for the type mismatch he'd be able to one shot Nyarlathotep too off a full blue enhanced board. In order to 100% survive Azathoth I'd need my entire team decked out in dark resists which isn't an option. I could bring a sub with Dark Resist natively Like Dark Knight Cecil or Light Zhuge Liang (LZL even enhances water orbs). But even then I'd need 10-15 dark resist across the team. More doable but still a pain in the ass. I'll probably try running the team a couple times to see how it handles the rest of the dungeon before I invest.
Not enough HP on the team to tank Azathoth though so it's not a bullet proof clear.
Brian Griffin
Member
So after clearing C11 I'm now the proud owner of 2 Dragon Killer latents, the other one gained from a previous challenge. I want to collect more from A3 with Dath but the damage on the radars is a big hurdle.
My team is 3 Hakus and Durga so would it be a good idea to put the killers on two of the Haku's or should I wait until I get my hands on a third so I don't lose damage on the non-latent Haku from having to hit softer to keep the latented ones under damage threshold?
My team is 3 Hakus and Durga so would it be a good idea to put the killers on two of the Haku's or should I wait until I get my hands on a third so I don't lose damage on the non-latent Haku from having to hit softer to keep the latented ones under damage threshold?
Brian Griffin
Member
Thanks! Was assuming this but wanted to clarify.
I've cleared it once, but that was against Gaia who is probably the easiest of the non-Hera ones. I probably would clear it more if Hera would actually spawn! I've faced all of them except her.