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Mighty No.9 Backers are starting to receive the physical edition and oh boy...

Bog

Bog

Junior Ace
I got the Famicom box today. You just have to fold it. Who gives a shit. I'm sure it saved them on shipping, and this way I can just stick it in a folder never to be seen again. But the manual not fitting in the folded box? Dude...
 
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Dark_castle

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Nightfall

Member
vid said:
Boy, you want to talk about actual scams? I feel bad for my roommate who pledged deeply for this one just because it said "Final Fantasy" a few times in passing. I remember reading over the pitch for that one and having no idea what they were trying to sell... and it seems like they didn't know either.
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I also backed Project Phoenix (just checked, it was 50$...ugh... now I feel sick...) and it's even worse than Mighty No. 9 (for which I pledged 40$ and I never played it. Sold my key for 20$ when it came out).

It started somehow good and interesting and just kept getting worse and worse. The updates seemed like they didn't even have anything from the start, besides what was on Kickstarters site. Then radio silence. Then they admitted it. Then almost everyone quit and now... I think there's one or maybe two guys actually working on something?

There are occasional updates every now and then, /which is amazing considering what kind of train wreck this is) but they still seem to be about nothing. There still isn't anything that points towards they've got something that could someday be considered a game.

The last few updates just explained some classes (and it's really basic RPG stuff like mages and such) and they have some nice concept art, but... that's it! Just fucking concept art.

The last update started like this

Dear backers,

Again, I thank you very much for your patience.
In the past few updates, there has been some misunderstanding so I'd like to be clear about what we will be doing in the next few updates.

I was asked by many backers about how the game works. We have a basic game that includes itemization, navigation and other tools for creating abilities. However, it is nowhere close to the level where we can offer a proper demonstration for you to play.

From February of this year, we decided to explain what classes you can expect from our game, what their roles are, and how you will be playing with them.

We are not attempting to regurgitate old art or assets. We like to believe that the art we have showed you thus far expresses the overall look and feel of the game. I apologize to those who thought we were trying to make it seem the art is newly created. Currently, we have all the art we need to make these classes, and we have all the models for it also. We have included these in the previous updates because we've already completed and paid for these assets.

I hope to go back to explaining classes again from the next update, and for the time being, we would like to take a break from the classes and update you on what we have done on one of the cutscenes.
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It's been 4 years and they still can't even show anything that resembles a game. It's baffling that they haven't given up and still send out updates. I have no idea how they still have any money. They probably don't.
I still can't wrap my head around how this could go so wrong.

sorry for the slight ot
 
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K.E. Keith

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Figured I'd chime in with pics of my own box, which arrived today.
I can plop the box on any shelf, but I have no clue what to do with this manual. As has been said, there's no fuckin' way it's fitting in that box.
Product planning that really makes you think. :(
 
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120v

Member
i work for a company that outsources manuals and boxes for our product... i can tell somebody made a huge boo boo with the manuals, ordered a shitload in the wrong dimensions and decided to just roll with it. happens all the time, we just fold them up and customers never seem to second guess it... i almost sympathize but it's the last thing the project "needed" at this point
 
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MagnaderAlpha

Member
Lambtron said:
I knew exactly what I was getting for that backer level. I mean I regret backing this to the tune of $120 but I knew the box was just a box.
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This. The only strange part about this is that the manual doesn't fit in the box. The reward tier never hid the fact that it was for a physical box ONLY. If people somehow fooled themselves into believing it meant "physical game", sorry, they are sadly mistaken. The only physical versions, at THAT time, where the USBs that were supposed to be shaped as either mini NES cartridges or mini Famicom cartridges.

For Shovel Knight, I actually got one of the boxes (and manuals). It comes flat and you HAVE to put it together (basic folding stuff). Course that was also different than the whole physical thing. Shovel Knight didn't have a physical option during the Kickstarter. That came way later (and I'm happy to have picked up the physical PS4 version).

Also, didn't A Hat in Time also have the tier reward where you get a "physical N64-box" too?

And as for Bloodstained, it clearly says "Physical copy of the game" in the tiers. MN9 said nothing of the sort. Sure, Inafune promised more than he could deliver, but sometimes we, on the other side, make mistakes too. Gotta own up if that's the case and try not to blame someone else for your oversight.
 
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ClayKavalier

Banned
Wasn't crazy about the game based on what little I played at launch, but I'll have to give it another go now that I can read up on what the buttons do.
 
Demoskinos

Demoskinos

Member
Stygr said:
Not the same people, but Bloodstained has some problems too, delayed many times and it's not looking good in that E3 Demo. Shenmue III will be at Gamescom maybe we'll get some news
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The shape Bloodstained is in is like ten times better than Mighty No. 9 IGA and his team have been way more transparent through the development process. And I'm way more confident that Bloodstained comes out the other side of this being a pretty decent game.
 
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Hesh

Member
I thought I had it bad waiting almost 5 years for my Double Fine Adventure/Broken Age physical box, but at least the thing I eventually received is like a bonafide classic PC game box. I only backed this for a digital copy that I've yet to play since I was waiting for the game to get patched. Unfortunately this game hasn't received a single patch since release, and I'm thinking it never will at this point. Oh well.
 
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Drillary Clinton

Banned
I just don't understand. This game had an insane amount of money pledged to it.. and you compare it something like Shantae that didn't even have a slice of the funds MN9 had.
 
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AlexFlame116

Member
Drillary Clinton said:
I just don't understand. This game had an insane amount of money pledged to it.. and you compare it something like Shantae that didn't even have a slice of the funds MN9 had.
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That still irks me. I really hoped that Shantae met all of its goals. It made all but the last three. Even though Mighty No.9 did help a bit when the cross promotion happened, I still sometimes wish that some of the money that Mighty No.9 made had gone to Shantae instead.

But I'm just a bitter old fool.
 
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bananafactory

Banned
I know this game was a shitshow but game boxes are nothing new for Kickstarter projects

I got a PS2 style case for Amplitude (that doesn't come with the game) and also one for The Long Dark.

It's not 'shady' wording, people just really love finding something to hate on with this game. And no I didn't back MN9 and I have no horse in this race.
 
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wrowa

Member
LiK said:
Still boggles my mind how the manual is bigger than the damn box. Video games 101.
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I take a wild guess: They checked prices, realized that a manual the size of the box would actually have been more expensive and said fuck it who cares.
 
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AlexFlame116

Member
bananafactory said:
I know this game was a shitshow but game boxes are nothing new for Kickstarter projects

I got a PS2 style case for Amplitude (that doesn't come with the game) and also one for The Long Dark.

It's not 'shady' wording, people just really love finding something to hate on with this game. And no I didn't back MN9 and I have no horse in this race.
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The problem is the manual doesn't fit.
 
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Renegade King

Member
So I completely understood that the box was just going to be a box, but I'm a sucker for things like that. What I think is unacceptable is that manual doesn't fit in the box. like..... how do they mess that up?

When the manual isn't in the box it ends up getting lost, unlike those damn game surveys, or ads for subscribing to videogame magazines. Those things still turn up everywhere. A couple weeks ago when I was moving boxes that had some of my old books I came across a reminder that I could be playing with power (Nintendo Power). How does that survive the transition of me moving, but my Legend of Zelda World map goes missing a month after Christmas?
 
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modsbox

Member
Looks to me like the manual would fit if you rotated it 90 degrees and then folded it kind of in half, right?

I mean sure the manual would be folded... but it would technically fit inside the box then.

And they know you know how to fold things at that point because you just finished folding the box together. :)
 
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MagnaderAlpha

Member
AlexFlame116 said:
The problem is the manual doesn't fit.
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That's the only problem. Though me, with my Shovel Knight NES-esque box, I never put it together. I have it flat and plan on keeping it that way. I pledged enough to get a MN9 physical box (have yet to have it arrive), but don't doubt I'll keep it flat as well.
 
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Meffer

Member
AlexFlame116 said:
That still irks me. I really Shantae met all of its goals. It made all but the last three. Even though Mighty No.9 did help a bit when the cross promotion happened, I still sometimes wish that some of the money that Mighty No.9 made had gone to Shantae instead.

But I'm just a bitter old fool.
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I really wanted Shantae to meet it's VA goal.
 
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Rlan

Member
So to me it looks like they made the box to be the size of a Famicom box... but the manual is the size of a US manual?

I scan a lot of stuff for The Video Game Art Archive. This is a size comparison between manuals, carts & so forth. The Mappy Land one is based on some of the weirder Namco games, just for comparison.

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Alphahawk

Member
I don't think Inafune, or his team ever really understood the kickstarter, or crowdfunding model in general. He just saw that other developers were getting money from it, and felt like he could get some too. This box snafu is the latest, like there's no thinking "Hey we should make right by consumers and make these really awsome old school game design" it's more like "Hey these guys already paid so we have to do something, how about we just do it as cheaply as possible".
 
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Alex_Mexico

Member
Stygr said:
Not the same people, but Bloodstained has some problems too, delayed many times and it's not looking good in that E3 Demo. Shenmue III will be at Gamescom maybe we'll get some news
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Many times? Can you tell me exactly what's many times for you? Because if once qualified as many you're clinically insane.

Bloodstained has been delayed once. From mid 2017 to mid 2018 after the game got more than 10 times the money they were asking for. Needless to say the scope of the game is another beast entirely. Of course they'd get a delay. But it's still just the one time. Come back again if they delay it again then you could at least call their delays in plural form at least.

Jesus I swear MN9's greatest sin is poisoning the crowdfunding well for the rest of the big name game Kickstarter as a result.

Oh and btw I know that hating on MN9 is the cool thing to do but I'm a $60 backer that went for the physical game box and I've known since day one I was signing up for an empty box with a manual. It was never a secret said box wasn't going to include the game. Now as to why it took them so long or why the manual doesn't fit inside the box is another matter entirely.
 
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Dreamwriter

Member
In the mean time, I got this from the Volgarr Kickstarter, arrived 3 months before the estimated Kickstarter ship date:

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Admittedly, that was at the $150 tier...
 
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