CertifiedFP
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My Body is Ready for Cold Steel VR.
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XSEED: Trails of Cold Steel PC Blog #2 (feat. Durante, talks PC enhancements)
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My Body is Ready for Cold Steel VR.
chaosblade
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I'd assume it's not necessary at the game level since Nvidia and AMD have DSR/VSR respectively at the driver level. I think those resolutions should be detected by the launcher.
I also wonder how extensive the button prompt options are. Going to guess my Wii U Pro controller is not in there but I think I can reverse the layout and just use 360.
Heh. That would have been neat, but somewhat more programming-intensive than "somewhat"
No Wii U Pro controller for now, but the way I implemented it (which was quite a lot of work since the game was in a rather major way only ever designed to show one type of button layout) means that it is easy to add more.
Edit: These are the images for PS and 360, for reference (the bottom row is generated from the top, only that one is relevant):
BossDarkseid
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Durante, with your work on Cold Steel, you are giving me such a reason to delay working on the meat of my thesis.....thank you, truly.
CertifiedFP
Member
Heh. That would have been neat, but somewhat more programming-intensive than "somewhat"
Well, not to mention broken by any bugs that unlocked-FPS mode might produce.
No Wii U Pro controller for now, but the way I implemented it (which was quite a lot of work since the game was i na rather major way only ever designed to show one type of button layout) means that it is easy to add more.
Edit: These are the images for PS and 360, for reference (the bottom row is generated from the top, only that one is relevant):
By the way, are there keyboard/mouse button prompts in place? I mean, not to say that I'd need them as I made it through the Sky trilogy fine without prompts
by playing mouse-only
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Either it works or Durante's implemented speed options instead. Since he's big on using CE for the Sky games, I'm sure this was on his mind, though I can't speak for him of course.
Absolutely.
I should note that the FoV does not apply during cutscenes. Those often use custom per-scene FoV, and overriding it might break a lot of things.
The FoV setting applies during battles and field exploration (which constitute the majority of the game of course).
StereoVsn
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Quick question, is the resolution aspect ratio locked or does it support resolutions such as 21 x 9 or other custom res?
curi0usBystander
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I know that feeling. That's why I rarely play First Person games anymore.
While i don't think it will matter much in this game, it's always a nice have the option to adjust it.
Palette Swap
Member
The Japanese text option is great. I gifted TiTS to a couple of friends, one of whom is a native Japanese speaker, and she kind of gave up because English isn't her thing. I'll gift them CS with a lighter heart.
Would this really matter all that much this time? You can already speed up cutscenes, skip all animations in battle and either run or quicktravel in the field.
Japanese text with English dub will probably be kind of odd.
Palette Swap
Member
I hadn't thought of that lol. I guess they can turn the voices off. At least they get to play the game.
Kingdom Hearts Final Mixes worked out just fine. In fact, some of them even liked the eng dub better.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Ultra Trails of Cold Steel EX +@ up in here!
Well, it makes sense to have English voice acting for the Disney characters because they're not Japanese creations. Even I played the KH games dubbed and I usually play with Japanese voices/undubs for everything.
Shake Appeal
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I still have to play 3rd before this, but I'll buy Cold Steel day one. Cool work.
Rei dos Vermes
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It seems like a great port. Everything I expect is there, including decent anti-aliasing, I can't wait!
I actually explicitly did not implement automatic button prompt selection and rather made it a user option - also because I personally get annoyed when I'm using a hybrid controller/mouse Steam controller configuration and the game can't decide which prompts to show
I'm curious, but do XSEED needs to pay license to use PS button prompt for PC version? or the button prompts only for Xbox and Keyboard/Mouse?
texhnolyze
Banned
Looking at the comparison video, the ground textures also look much better on PC.
I take it that it's due to low AF on console as usual.
I take it that it's due to low AF on console as usual.
CertifiedFP
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I see Durante avoids answering a specific set of pushy questions, I think we can guess what to look forward to in his next blog post.
It's like... 3:20AM where he is. I doubt he's still awake.
My dream for the CS PC port remains that there's a way to change some of the animations of Cold Steel's to the ones in CS2.
For example, Laura's attack animation on field has a hitch in it and the animation in general isn't that great in CS1.
Animation was improved by quite a bit in CS2, even though they were animations that served the same exact purpose.
This is just a pipe dream, though. I do wish, for example, to play CS1 but with Laura's on-field attack being the one she has in CS2.
For example, Laura's attack animation on field has a hitch in it and the animation in general isn't that great in CS1.
Animation was improved by quite a bit in CS2, even though they were animations that served the same exact purpose.
This is just a pipe dream, though. I do wish, for example, to play CS1 but with Laura's on-field attack being the one she has in CS2.
The questions in question were asked earlier and in previous threads though. But it's ok if you miss the point, the next blog post surely works better as a surprise.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
The console version uses a kind of LOD process where lower-res textures are used until the camera gets closer, which seems to have been eliminated or significantly reduced in this port. I don't know if High Quality Depth of Field specifically fixes this or if it's baked in now.
Being able to mod in the CS II field attacks (and vice versa when we get that game's PC version) would be interesting, mainly because I'd bother to use field attacks other than Rean's.
Letting you select icons with the cursor is most important, followed by circling the battle wheel using the mousewheel.
spleenpoker
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Going to give the blog posts a read soon, looking forward to part 3
Sadly won't be able to get the game at launch but will definitely pick up before the years end
Would like to give Durante massive props! Great work, thanks!
Sadly won't be able to get the game at launch but will definitely pick up before the years end
Would like to give Durante massive props! Great work, thanks!
CertifiedFP
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Yeah, some posted in this thread and the previous blog post thread.
If you want this portable, you're better off going with GPD Win. Outperforms Vita at the same settings as far as the video of it posted last thread goes.
Unless frequent drops to 1-5FPS are your thing.
Wait, people don't just use Fie to shoot enemies in the back all the time (when they can)? For shame.
Yes I just saw the video at the bottom of the OP post.
Is that the PC version cranked up - I'm going to assume so.
Well I don't have a GPD Win, but that thing looks a beast.
I didn't know Vita framerate was that bad, I'll have to do some more investigation on this then. The Vita handheld is just comfy and seems suitable for this type of 'extended' gaming.
I've got CS 1&2 on PS3 and I love both games, I'm planning on getting them on PC eventually just to support their release.
The games are awesome, Estelle is the highlight of Trails but I honestly think the cast in Cold Steel is more interesting than that of in the Sky.
She's my dodge tank. I don't want a party without Fie because she's hilarious so in both games she becomes my dodge tank and she's great at it.
The games are awesome, Estelle is the highlight of Trails but I honestly think the cast in Cold Steel is more interesting than that of in the Sky.
She's my dodge tank. I don't want a party without Fie because she's hilarious so in both games she becomes my dodge tank and she's great at it.
Dragoon En Regalia
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I did that a bunch in both games, but Rean in CS1 bullies enemies into constant stun frames—and you can then run back behind any enemy since IIRC Rean's attack's always shorter than enemy stun animations. So I did that basically out of laziness (and in cases where I didn't have Millium for strike stuns) to get some kind of advantage.
Frame drops only get real bad in a few spots in the game, mainly Legram and Heimdallr (two places you visit later on). But there's also instances where all of Class VII are in a huddle on-screen and the game starts dropping frames for no good reason, which this port should fix. Battles are pretty smooth on PS3 in my experience, but I don't know about Vita.
CertifiedFP
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Yeah, honestly the Vita versions of Cold Steel 1 and 2 really only exist for platform-continuity with Zero and Ao, but it looks like that ideology is changing at Falcom and they're moving towards PS4+PC as target platforms going forward, looking at CS3 being PS4 only in Japan and skipping Vita.
I found it much safer to just get their attention and then run out of their aggro range. Then the moment they turn their back it's no prob shooting them. Fie gets a 3-Advantage against almost every single enemy, whereas Rean's majority is mostly 2. Honestly, constantly stun-locking them sounds a lot more intensive, so doing it out of laziness seems kinda weird. Whatever floats your boat, I guess!
You could always gift it to me and I'll play it. Lol
R_thanatos
Member
I've already played this game to death...but somehw seeing all those changes really make me wanna play it again enhanced.
Dragoon En Regalia
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Another reason is that I just never understood the proper timing for Fie's projectile attack, and I don't like losing advantage because I miscalculated with her slashing and the enemy ramming me for no advantage. And I got lots of 3-advantage encounters using Rean, too.