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Charlottesville alt-right white nationalist torch rally

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cloudscale

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geestack said:
*nazi screams hate speech*

you: guys, we must protect their free speech!

*nazi gets gun, starts yelling*

you: guys, we must respect their right to free assembly and right to own arms!

*nazi runs over peaceful counter protestors*

you: guys, we must not descend to their level. violence never solves anything!

*nazi puts you into concentration camp*

you: ...guys?
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You know you took quite a leap there in the last bit, right?
 
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UpDownLeftRight

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benjipwns said:
is this a different video than Revolution Z? i see the car hit, then start to back away and then i get to explore his inner palm for thirty seconds

sorry for not calling down torrents of blood for something i couldn't see


I'm not, I suggested an accident rather than an ACLU plot as an alternative theory and then when asked elaborated, but believe what you want.
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See that new video? Now try telling us how you shouldn't be ashamed of yourself. Took you no time to try defend the attacker.
 
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evil solrac v3.0

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benjipwns said:
i've been in and witnessed car accidents before, they're generally caused by someone improperly operating a motor vehicle
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Accidents are unintentional, this was not.

cloudscale said:
While my gut instinct is to, yeah, want to beat the living shit out of the violent white nationalist protesters, that's not the right thing to do. That's the kind of thing that Trump sanctions, and look where we're at today. The Civil War's over, and we don't violence to escalate violence. Let the fuckers face the American justice system.
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Only the guy who plowed into the crowd, sadly the other shit heels did not commit a crime by marching. Hate speech should not be protected but here we are.
 
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Jarmel

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This is absolutely insane. This rally is disgusting to begin with and then you have people committing terrorist acts on the counter-protestors. Beyond the pale.
 
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DynamicG

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UpDownLeftRight said:
See that new video? Now try telling us how you shouldn't be ashamed of yourself. Took you no time to try defend the attacker.
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What is there to be ashamed of? He was merely asking questions that would lead to the reveal of a new video. Many are unable to appreciate his critical thinking skills and rhetorical game. /s
 
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JonnyDBrit

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UpDownLeftRight said:
See that new video? Now try telling us how you shouldn't be ashamed of yourself. Took you no time to try defend the attacker.
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He already did, in response to my admittedly sassy remark describing what happened in it. Benji chose to give the benefit of the doubt, and in light of new evidence, has changed his stance.

Now let's continue to hope the fuckhead in the dodger gets what they deserve.
 
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PudieRSC

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Crossing Eden said:
Yea man those soldiers during WW2 should've just negotiated with the nazis.
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We the entire group of Nazi protesters starting rounding people up and killing them you can make that argument.

When one guy does it you're just making ridiculous analogies.

Quite a fucking difference between millions of people being rounded up by a whole army and one asshole with a car.
 
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Crossing Eden

Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
PudieRSC said:
We the entire group of Nazi protesters starting rounding people up and killing them you can make that argument.

When one guy does it you're just making ridiculous analogies.
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What the hell do you guys think these people want to accomplish? What in the world do you think their end goal is?? I'm genuinely curious.
 
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Zen_Arcade

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cloudscale said:
You know you took quite a leap there in the last bit, right?
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History would tell you that it's not really a leap. The only reason self described Nazis aren't committing atrocities is because they don't have the power to do it and get away with it.

If they could, they would. There's no such thing as a Nazi that only slightly dislikes people.
 
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Wvrs

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Crossing Eden said:
Yea man those soldiers during WW2 should've just negotiated with the nazis.
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That was a state of war. I get the instinct to lash out at Neo-Nazis and white supremacists, but it's not the way to do it. It sets a dangerous precedent that will one day be used to shut down the side you're fighting for too.

You either accept civilisation and handle things like this properly through courts and the law, or you reject it and pick up arms. There's no medium road to take there. Is civil war what you're after?
 
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benjipwns

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UpDownLeftRight said:
See that new video? Now try telling us how you shouldn't be ashamed of yourself. Took you no time to try defend the attacker.
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I would like to know where I defended an attacker rather than asking for a clearer picture. The RevolutionZ video was the inside of the dude's hand, the kendrid linked video lets you see the entire street.

TheCochese said:
Michael Jackson would be proud of this moonwalk.
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My apologies, I prefer to not assume that all car accidents are deliberate malevolent attacks by heathens when all I see is a guys hand.

EDIT: I will admit I did not turn the sound on for and watch the RevZ video more than twice because people getting hit by cars is unpleasant. It was on by default in the second video.
 
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Nepenthe

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PudieRSC said:
We the entire group of Nazi protesters starting rounding people up and killing them you can make that argument.
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This country separated from Britain over fucking tea taxes and we hail those people as heroes.

I don't want to hear about the bar for beating up a Nazi who ran over people with a car as being literal genocide.
 
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evil solrac v3.0

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PudieRSC said:
You see it as weakness, but I see resorting to violence as weakness.

Pull em out of the car. Hold em down til the police get there. But beating the shit out of them? It accomplishes nothing and makes you just as gross.
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Brilliant idea. Go shake their hand while they stab you in the chest. Sorry but in the real world you have to fight if you want to survive, and you have an obligation as a person with loved ones to defend against these scum.
 
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Soda Mixer

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September 2001, benjipwns:

"Most commercial airline crashes result from improper operation of the aircraft. I need to see another angle."
 
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PudieRSC

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Crossing Eden said:
What the hell do you guys think these people want to accomplish? What in the world do you think their end goal is?? I'm genuinely curious.
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I think most of them want what the guy in the car did, but the still didn't plow through a group of people.

And those people need to be stopped.

I just don't think violence is the answer.
 
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Chairman Yang

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PudieRSC said:
We the entire group of Nazi protesters starting rounding people up and killing them you can make that argument.

When one guy does it you're just making ridiculous analogies.

Quite a fucking difference between millions of people being rounded up by a whole army and one asshole with a car.
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When Nazis start rounding people up it's too late to make any argument.
 
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cloudscale

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pigeon said:
What is your theory for what Nazis want to accomplish?
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geestack said:
where, my logic is impeccable
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No, just that... Violence/war would probably be justified a bit before Nazis begin putting us into concentration camps.

Surely you don't actually think that people of my stance would never ever sanction using violence as means of self-defense? If someone came at me with the intention of putting me in a concentration camp, I would fight back.

What's with the extremes?
 
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UpDownLeftRight

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benjipwns said:
I would like to know where I defended an attacker rather than asking for a clearer picture. The RevolutionZ video was the inside of the dude's hand, the kendrid linked video lets you see the entire street.
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In the first video you see the driver back over the people they just ran over. You don't tend to do that in accidents.
 
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Crossing Eden

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Wolvers said:
That was a state of war. I get the instinct to lash out at Neo-Nazis and white supremacists, but it's not the way to do it. It sets a dangerous precedent that will one day be used to shut down the side you're fighting for too.

You either accept civilisation and handle things like this properly through courts and the law, or you reject it and pick up arms. There's no medium road to take there. Is civil war what you're after?
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Even if it wasn't a state of war nazism shouldn't be tolerated, how in the world is this even remotely a discussion. Stop telling minorities how to respond to the people who're actively trying to oppress them and at this point are openly attacking them more than usual
 
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linkboy

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PudieRSC said:
I think most of them want what the guy in the car did, but the still didn't plow through a group of people.


And those people need to be stopped.

I just don't think violence is the answer.
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Then what.

Talking doesn't work, they won't listen.

All they care about is pushing their fucked up vision and will go to any means to get it (as shown by the events that happened today).

I don't want violence either, but it shouldn't be an option taken off the table. You can't just stand around and keep trying the same approach over and over if one side isn't willing to listen.
 
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