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3DS HOMEBREW Discussion Thread [exploits/carts/applications/games]

deim0s

Member
Read the thread, there's a boot.firm that you can try there. Better yet, get on into 3dshacks discord and ask there and outline what you had before and what you've done to get the error.
 

OmegaFax

Member
That's great to know. Is it going to be like that for all future updates too or do I need to check in each time?

It's probably good to check to see whether it's safe to update. Nintendo's updates usually only affect users with non-permanent jailbreaks (OoT hack, Cubic Ninja, Web Browser, etc).

If you use NTR, a new update will likely break it until someone fixes it (1 day - 1 week)
 
Hello, everyone.

I recently busted out my homebrew n3DS...which is just a black PAL n3DS that I used to play SNES games on via Cubic Ninja. It's been ages since I last used it, and just figured out that closing the lid makes everything crash (I was using Cat SFC to play Street Fighter). Is there a trick to being able to use sleep mode without making the system crash?

Also, is Retro Arch still being worked on for 3DS? I think the SNES emulator I have is back from maybe 2015 or something. I played through Donkey Kong Country 1 and 2 back in 2015 with no issues, and Super Street Fighter seems to run okay, except I noticed that there's no voiceover at the start of the fight, e.g. "Round 1, fight".

Any and all tips would be most appreciated.

Thanks.
 
Hello, everyone.

I recently busted out my homebrew n3DS...which is just a black PAL n3DS that I used to play SNES games on via Cubic Ninja. It's been ages since I last used it, and just figured out that closing the lid makes everything crash (I was using Cat SFC to play Street Fighter). Is there a trick to being able to use sleep mode without making the system crash?

Also, is Retro Arch still being worked on for 3DS? I think the SNES emulator I have is back from maybe 2015 or something. I played through Donkey Kong Country 1 and 2 back in 2015 with no issues, and Super Street Fighter seems to run okay, except I noticed that there's no voiceover at the start of the fight, e.g. "Round 1, fight".

Any and all tips would be most appreciated.

Thanks.

Try updating your Homebrew Loader pack to the most recent version and see if it supports sleep, if it doesn't you'll need a more permanent hack to get the permissions needed (if you've got a dedicated HB Console anyway it may be worth doing anyway. SNES injection CIAs are close to perfect for anything that doesn't use special chips.)
 
Try updating your Homebrew Loader pack to the most recent version and see if it supports sleep, if it doesn't you'll need a more permanent hack to get the permissions needed (if you've got a dedicated HB Console anyway it may be worth doing anyway. SNES injection CIAs are close to perfect for anything that doesn't use special chips.)
I never installed any other homebrew outside of using the Cubic Ninja cart, which was really easy. The actual system modding seemed a little too complicated for me, so I didn't bother with CIAs etc.

Do you know if it's possible to update the homebrew launcher from the 3DS or do I need to download it and transfer to the memory card?

Thanks.
 
I never installed any other homebrew outside of using the Cubic Ninja cart, which was really easy. The actual system modding seemed a little too complicated for me, so I didn't bother with CIAs etc.

Do you know if it's possible to update the homebrew launcher from the 3DS or do I need to download it and transfer to the memory card?

Thanks.

You need to download it and transfer it to the SD card yeah. The save used by the game should still be fine.
 
That's the right place. The starter pack is updated fairly regularly, smealum just unfortunately doesn't make it clear when that happens.
Thanks for your help. I downloaded the latest and tried putting the system to sleep, no luck unfortunately.

I'm considering installing a non ninjhax mod, and have been looking at this link from the OP:

https://3ds.guide/get-started-(new-3ds)

Is the newer stuff more permanent? I'm not worried about getting banned, because I have anotehr n3DS which is my main one. This one is just for homebrew. I guess everyone has moved on grom Ninjhax?

Anyway, the link above...I have 9.0.0, so it says I should install Homebrew Launcher via Soundhax. Do I then need to install Boot9Strap too?

Sorry for all the questions, and thanks again.
 
Thanks for your help. I downloaded the latest and tried putting the system to sleep, no luck unfortunately.

I'm considering installing a non ninjhax mod, and have been looking at this link from the OP:

https://3ds.guide/get-started-(new-3ds)

Is the newer stuff more permanent? I'm not worried about getting banned, because I have anotehr n3DS which is my main one. This one is just for homebrew. I guess everyone has moved on grom Ninjhax?

Anyway, the link above...I have 9.0.0, so it says I should install Homebrew Launcher via Soundhax. Do I then need to install Boot9Strap too?

Sorry for all the questions, and thanks again.

Soundhax is recommended entrypoint for many firmware versions because it doesn't interefere too much with regular usage of anything. This should be enough to launch HBL.

Hacking your 3DS fully has pros and cons. It definitely leaves more junk in the system, and it makes doing other stuff that could lead to a ban easier, but on the other hand, you can't do much with HBL itself, and the firmware updates cannot disable access to homebrew on hacked system as easily. If you have another 3DS, go for it.
 

sensui-tomo

Member
You're a long way behind. You need to update to Luma 7.1, move from A9Lhax to B9S , and then update to Luma 8.1. You also need to update your Homebrew Loader stuff (grab the latest zip) and update all Luma Payloads to the 8.1 version.

So i'm going to guess i'm in a similar boat, my system is 11.2.0-35 and was using whatever hack was around during late november/later december/ whatever you could use on those black friday n3ds. So i just need to get the new homebrew channel stuff and put that in the micro sd/ get luma 7.1, read whatever about A9Lhax to B9S and luma 8.1? or do i need to do other shit since its old?
 
So i'm going to guess i'm in a similar boat, my system is 11.2.0-35 and was using whatever hack was around during late november/later december/ whatever you could use on those black friday n3ds. So i just need to get the new homebrew channel stuff and put that in the micro sd/ get luma 7.1, read whatever about A9Lhax to B9S and luma 8.1? or do i need to do other shit since its old?

You don't need 7.1 strictly since you should be able to bypass that step but it's probably a good idea to update to the last A9LH compatabile Luma before updating (you only need intermediate Luma versions where B9S / Luma incompatibility occurs). Otherwise that's right.

ETA - It may be Luma 7.0 you need not 7.1 I've forgotten which Luma is the last A9LH one. I think it's 7.0 , 7.1 was first B9S, 8.0 was Rosalina (B9S 1.1), 8.1.1 (B9S 1.2) is current.
 

sensui-tomo

Member
You don't need 7.1 strictly since you should be able to bypass that step but it's probably a good idea to update to the last A9LH compatabile Luma before updating (you only need intermediate Luma versions where B9S / Luma incompatibility occurs). Otherwise that's right.

ETA - It may be Luma 7.0 you need not 7.1 I've forgotten which Luma is the last A9LH one. I think it's 7.0 , 7.1 was first B9S, 8.0 was Rosalina (B9S 1.1), 8.1.1 (B9S 1.2) is current.

got everything done and my system updated, thanks for the help.
 

Feffe

Member
Thanks for your help. I downloaded the latest and tried putting the system to sleep, no luck unfortunately.

I'm considering installing a non ninjhax mod, and have been looking at this link from the OP:

https://3ds.guide/get-started-(new-3ds)

Is the newer stuff more permanent? I'm not worried about getting banned, because I have anotehr n3DS which is my main one. This one is just for homebrew. I guess everyone has moved on grom Ninjhax?

Anyway, the link above...I have 9.0.0, so it says I should install Homebrew Launcher via Soundhax. Do I then need to install Boot9Strap too?

Sorry for all the questions, and thanks again.
Installing the HB Launcher is the first step. Installing B9S and Luma is the second step, to have a permanent CFW.
For SNES games I suggest using the official Virtual Console emulator

https://gbatemp.net/threads/release-ultimate-snes-vc-injector-for-3ds.453891/

It basically convert a SNES rom into a CIA, then you installed the CIA and have the game right on the 3DS menu.
It works with almost all games, excluding some special chip stuff and some hacked rooms. For those use SNES9X

https://gbatemp.net/threads/snes9x-for-old-3ds.435568/

Which is a more standard emulator. You install its CIA, you run it and you select your rom from SD card.
 
Installing the HB Launcher is the first step. Installing B9S and Luma is the second step, to have a permanent CFW.
For SNES games I suggest using the official Virtual Console emulator

https://gbatemp.net/threads/release-ultimate-snes-vc-injector-for-3ds.453891/

It basically convert a SNES rom into a CIA, then you installed the CIA and have the game right on the 3DS menu.
It works with almost all games, excluding some special chip stuff and some hacked rooms. For those use SNES9X

https://gbatemp.net/threads/snes9x-for-old-3ds.435568/

Which is a more standard emulator. You install its CIA, you run it and you select your rom from SD card.
Thanks for this. A few questions:

- if I just installed the Homebrew launcher via Soundhax, without B9 and Luma, HBL won't remain on the system?

- official SNES emu: if I install this, will I be able to play in stretched screen mode? I confess I've been playing this with via CatSFC (Retroarch). I no some people here will think I'm nuts, but I prefer a full screen experience.

- SNES 9X - is this better than retroarch CatSFC?

- If I install B9 and Luma, will I be able to rip games from my North American carts? Bear in mind my homebrew n3DS is a PAL one.

Thanks again!
 
Thanks for this. A few questions:

- if I just installed the Homebrew launcher via Soundhax, without B9 and Luma, HBL won't remain on the system?

- official SNES emu: if I install this, will I be able to play in stretched screen mode? I confess I've been playing this with via CatSFC (Retroarch). I no some people here will think I'm nuts, but I prefer a full screen experience.

- SNES 9X - is this better than retroarch CatSFC?

- If I install B9 and Luma, will I be able to rip games from my North American carts? Bear in mind my homebrew n3DS is a PAL one.

Thanks again!

I have no idea about emulators, so I'm going to skip these two.

"Installing HBL" is honestly a huge mess to dissect regarding the sentence meaning since 3DS has somewhat better security model than Wii. The actual menu program resides on SD card and then you have exploits to launch it which may depend on various things and even be composed of multiple parts, soundhax depends only on a file or two that also reside on SD card - well, on firmware versions where it works. If you proceed to upgrade the firmware from that the setup will be broken.

If you do proceed to install old versions of Luma then you can install an unsigned 3DS app that will just launch an exploit directly, but it's broken when there are no exploits. The B9S versions of Luma however have a built-in code to launch homebrew which is by default assigned to take over this particular app. If you want to use homebrew while online, hiding it under a different program is apparently recommended.

You can rip any carts with B9S since regional lockout is mostly flag based. The programs to do that tend to not run under Luma and 3DS OS but instead by themselves, you can easily set most versions of Luma up so that it will launch such a program instead when you hold buttons while turning 3DS on.
 
Thanks. Going to try it today but I'm really worried about fucking it up, lol.
If I can do it and only end up with a black screen once because I misread a step and recovered it instantly, anyone can do it. That guide is really well written, leagues better than a lot of tech tutorials that assume you currently work for Google.

Think there's only one weird step in there that tells you to delete something that you don't have and was probably a leftover of an earlier method, just ignore that step and you'll be fine.
 
Good news for people who're on OFW 11.4+ and want CFW, ntrboot (aka magnethax) is out and in the guide, it's likely this entry point is unpatchable short of a hardware revision. Some bad news though it only supports 2 flashcards atm though they are the fairly common Acekard 2i and R4i Gold 3DS RTS.

(I wouldn't recommend rushing out to buy those cards if you have another DS flash card, support for more cards is planned)
 
Good news for people who're on OFW 11.4+ and want CFW, ntrboot (aka magnethax) is out and in the guide, it's likely this entry point is unpatchable short of a hardware revision. Some bad news though it only supports 2 flashcards atm though they are the fairly common Acekard 2i and R4i Gold 3DS RTS.

(I wouldn't recommend rushing out to buy those cards if you have another DS flash card, support for more cards is planned)

This is fantastic news. So 3dsguide has been updated?
 

sonto340

Member
Good news for people who're on OFW 11.4+ and want CFW, ntrboot (aka magnethax) is out and in the guide, it's likely this entry point is unpatchable short of a hardware revision. Some bad news though it only supports 2 flashcards atm though they are the fairly common Acekard 2i and R4i Gold 3DS RTS.

(I wouldn't recommend rushing out to buy those cards if you have another DS flash card, support for more cards is planned)
Right after I went through all the trouble of system transferring from my girlfriends 3ds last weekend. Oh well.
 
Hey, I just recently decided after a few weeks of enviously looking at the Dragon Quest XI Import OT that I wanted to finally play a game in this storied franchise. I just bought Dragon Quest VIII for 3DS after hearing that modding the orchestral music back in is pretty simple. The guide linked in the OP looks pretty straightforward, but one thing that I want to know is if anyone thinks that this will at all stop me from playing Metroid: Samus Returns in September?

I've heard that Luma3DS stays even when the 3DS gets official updates now, but I'm not 100% sure if that's the case. Is it true that after following the guide there is pretty much no way that my 3DS could lose the backdoor and hacks? Thanks in advance.

Oh, and I'm sort of in a new 3DS renaissance as I stopped playing it in mid 2013 and just began using it again around March of this year after getting Zelda: ALBW. Any suggestions for other games to pick up?

I also kind of want a New 3DS XL, preferrably the red one (I decided the upcoming Metroid one has no chance of going on sale at any point, and looks a bit off. I already have a black 3DS from the launch (which was on my birthday interestingly enough) and the main one I use which is a red original XL. I feel like I can't justify buying another since even though I could afford it it seems like a bit of a waste since I plan to get a Switch later on as well. That's why I'm thinking I might wait to see if there is some kind of $100 Black Friday deal this year, I'm sort of kicking myself for missing it last year but then again I kind of prefer the XL size over the regular, and I hadn't rekindled my interest in the console at the time so it makes sense that didn't jump in at the time. Would anyone here say the New 3DS XL is worth grabbing?
 

Feffe

Member
- official SNES emu: if I install this, will I be able to play in stretched screen mode? I confess I've been playing this with via CatSFC (Retroarch). I no some people here will think I'm nuts, but I prefer a full screen experience.

- SNES 9X - is this better than retroarch CatSFC?
With the official emulator you can play in 8:7 or 4:3, you can't full-stretch the screen. Snes9x support this, though.

Snes 9x (stand alone, not part of RA) has better compatibility than CatSFC.
 
Hey, I just recently decided after a few weeks of enviously looking at the Dragon Quest XI Import OT that I wanted to finally play a game in this storied franchise. I just bought Dragon Quest VIII for 3DS after hearing that modding the orchestral music back in is pretty simple. The guide linked in the OP looks pretty straightforward, but one thing that I want to know is if anyone thinks that this will at all stop me from playing Metroid: Samus Returns in September?

I've heard that Luma3DS stays even when the 3DS gets official updates now, but I'm not 100% sure if that's the case. Is it true that after following the guide there is pretty much no way that my 3DS could lose the backdoor and hacks? Thanks in advance.

Nintendo breaking the already installed CFW, or possibility of installing CFW on existing systems given an orderable piece of hardware, is basically impossible due to what basically could be considered hardware bugs. It is not impossible, though considered unlikely, that a new silent revision of the chips fixes those bugs, so hacking a newly bought system could end up being harder.

If Nintendo releases a non-trivial firmware update, you could end up waiting a few days for hacks to get similar updates, or, in case you like living on the edge, removing them altogether. However most of the firmware updates do indeed not interfere with already installed CFW.

Good news for people who're on OFW 11.4+ and want CFW, ntrboot (aka magnethax) is out and in the guide, it's likely this entry point is unpatchable short of a hardware revision. Some bad news though it only supports 2 flashcards atm though they are the fairly common Acekard 2i and R4i Gold 3DS RTS.

(I wouldn't recommend rushing out to buy those cards if you have another DS flash card, support for more cards is planned)

Also important is the fact that you have to hack the flashcart first. People expected that to be possible with a DS, but current instructions only cover an already hacked 3DS. Of course, asking someone to send you a hacked flashcard is less problematic than doing similar things with system transfers and sending 3DSes, so it's still a huge gain.
 
Nintendo breaking the already installed CFW, or possibility of installing CFW on existing systems given an orderable piece of hardware, is basically impossible due to what basically could be considered hardware bugs. It is not impossible, though considered unlikely, that a new silent revision of the chips fixes those bugs, so hacking a newly bought system could end up being harder.

If Nintendo releases a non-trivial firmware update, you could end up waiting a few days for hacks to get similar updates, or, in case you like living on the edge, removing them altogether. However most of the firmware updates do indeed not interfere with already installed CFW.

Alright. Thanks for the info, I appreciate it. :)
 
There are now official 11.4/5 hax payloads for O3DS out. Not a big deal anymore but nice for people who have an entry point on O3DS and don't want to commit to CAFE

There's also an RPG Maker Player based entry point coming apparently which works on 11.5 but it's arm11 only do only userland stuff basically.

Not world shaking but worth having here I suppose
 

Mistake

Member
my luma updater is not really working, so this sounds dumb, but what file does boot.firm replace to update luma? I forgot
 

Robin64

Member
my luma updater is not really working, so this sounds dumb, but what file does boot.firm replace to update luma? I forgot

Just copy over the existing boot.firm on the root of your SD card.

Also ensure you are on the latest b9s or you will get a black screen, luma 8.x requires it.
 

Mistake

Member
There is a boot.3dsx file, but no boot.firm

It says my luma is 7.0.2, so how do I make sure my b9s are up to date? I don't look at these things for months at a time, so I end up forgetting all of this. Glad you guys are around
 

Mejilan

Running off of Custom Firmware
There is a boot.3dsx file, but no boot.firm

It says my luma is 7.0.2, so how do I make sure my b9s are up to date? I don't look at these things for months at a time, so I end up forgetting all of this. Glad you guys are around

Sounds like you're on the old A9LH payloads of Luma, which are obsolete and discontinued. Follow the guide I linked to below to switch over to the B9S payload and update to the 8.x versions of Luma. You may also need a new version of Luma Updater.

https://3ds.guide/a9lh-to-b9s
 

GLAMr

Member
I just ordered a Sky3DS with a skydock, mainly do so I can save money by buying games from any region I want and having them all on one cart. I'm also keen to play some retro games that I can't get on VC in emulators.

Outside of these uses, is there anything else worth checking out? Back when I was a povo uni student I had a DS with an R4 cartridge. I used that thing for games, music, movies and reading on the go, or web browsing in bed (this was pre-smart phone/tablet, kids). The R4 turned the DS in to a useful, well-rounded little device.
 
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