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Love Boat 2 [Mafia] |OT| Electric Boogalove

franconp

Member
Wait no I don't, it's because they're scum

If Sorian is scum how come neither Star or us got Ouro's message D1 or D2?

If Sorian was indeed the scum hooker would it make sense to use is role twice in the same target when he knows that there can be a virgin and he has to target him before they kill him?
 

acohrs

Member
Surprised and not surprised by the night kill. Possible that scum have a pr cop or that they just targeted a quiet pair after yesterday's policy lynch (am i remembering that correctly?)
 
If Sorian is scum how come neither Star or us got Ouro's message D1 or D2?

If Sorian was indeed the scum hooker would it make sense to use is role twice in the same target when he knows that there can be a virgin and he has to target him before they kill him?

if he knows that there can be a virgin
 

acohrs

Member
Only other thought I have right now us that were dealing with a scum pair a la cabot in anime mafia. Large towny presence that wouldn't seem scummy at first glance.
 
Just to be clear: I'm seriously considering Sawrian actually being a Town hooker, but there is no proof at all that this is the case just because the blocked Ouro twice. They just could have not made the connection that there is a virgin. Sorian even said their PM didn't mention it. Do not put them in the "almost confirmed Town" camp based on their target choice.
 

franconp

Member
FWIW, this raises more questions then anything

I've got my eyes on acorhs for now

Why are you ignoring the other question and changing the subject?

Only other thought I have right now us that were dealing with a scum pair a la cabot in anime mafia. Large towny presence that wouldn't seem scummy at first glance.

Why are you ignoring my previous argument?

I feel like I'm talking to a wall right now.

Just to be clear: I'm seriously considering Sawrian actually being a Town hooker, but there is no proof at all that this is the case just because the blocked Ouro twice. They just could have not made the connection that there is a virgin. Sorian even said their PM didn't mention it. Do not put them in the "almost confirmed Town" camp based on their target choice.

I think they confirmed that their role said hooker so just googling it you would know how it works. If you are scum even if you don't know if there are virgins or not you wouldn't target the same target twice just in case.

Also, and this is just how I would have played as a scum hooker, a good way to use the role would be target a player and then kill them the next night so you would be sure to avoid a potential virgin using their role.
 
Why are you ignoring the other question and changing the subject?



Why are you ignoring my previous argument?

I feel like I'm talking to a wall right now.



I think they confirmed that their role said hooker so just googling it you would know how it works. If you are scum even if you don't know if there are virgins or not you wouldn't target the same target twice just in case.

Also, and this is just how I would have played as a scum hooker, a good way to use the role would be target a player and then kill them the next night so you would be sure to avoid a potential virgin using their role.

Because I totally forgot that FEP was lynched
 
I thought the general consensus was that if there's a hooker there's a virgin.

I personally would have just assumed that's simply the flavor of the roleblocker.

But yes, you have a point. I just googled it and on mafiascum in the first few sentences it says it disables a virgin. On the other hand, the page for roleblocker lists hooker as an alias for Scum roleblocker. I mean, there would have been six people in the Scum chat so the odds that somebody picked up on it would be increased, but still...
 

Natiko

Banned
If I could vig anyone right now I'm pretty sure I'd shoot Crim/Sophia. The night kills currently remind me a whole lot of when I was scum in DR3. I pushed to NK unassuming targets a lot of the time to A) avoid any potential doctor saves and B) to allow myself to hide among the most active posters. I knew I posted quite a bit so I didn't want to end up killing active players and drawing too much attention to myself. There's definitely scum floating among the top posters.

Just to be clear: I'm seriously considering Sawrian actually being a Town hooker, but there is no proof at all that this is the case just because the blocked Ouro twice. They just could have not made the connection that there is a virgin. Sorian even said their PM didn't mention it. Do not put them in the "almost confirmed Town" camp based on their target choice.
You know just how unlikely that is? Do keep in mind Sawneeks subbed in between D1 and D2, prior to the virgin flip. This means you're saying that both Sorian AND Sawneeks failed to read their role PMs with any amount of care. I highly doubt that would happen. Honestly, stuff like this just feels like preemptive shade. If there are in fact three scum boats left they just have to dodge being blocked one more time after we no lynch today and then tomorrow it'd be very easy for them to push for a Sorian lynch and this feels like seeding the ground for it.

Nope, that's all she wrote

Solid reasoning champ.
 

Sawneeks

Banned
shush

They're not supposed to know our NK somehow went through :*

So Scum have a Strongman? :thinkingemoji:

In no order. As I wrote in my boat last day a lot of it is PoE:

Uh, what does PoE stand for?

What's your opinion on all this?

I feel like this is entering WIFOM territory since we really can't say one way or another. I don't know FEP that well so I don't know if it's unlike him to be that calculating or if he had outside help. Not to mention that might have been a different interpretation of the word since 'throwing under the bus' can mean just throwing somebody out to save yourself.

So...no idea.

Nobody. I was being ambiguous at the time because I didn't know how much Crimson wanted to share. Ouro/KK were above them, followed by Sorian and Sawneeks.

May I ask why? I've stated a million and five times now I don't like how cagey you both are but I don't understand why you would be so reserved in giving out reads as Town. That doesn't make any sense to me.

So, sorian and saw are still alive despite their role claim. Wonder why

Well good morning to you too
 

Sorian

Banned
I got the okay from franconp, so here goes.

We're 3-shot Trackers, but we've sucked. Really screwed the pooch with our targets, but oh well. Shipping Gwen Stacy and the Sandman.

N1 we went to StarSketch. She didn't do anything.

N2 we went to Royal_Flush. We can confirm that he visited Ourokitty.

We sat out N3. Since there was no NK, we figured we could hold off.

N4 we went to Darrnin. He expected Sorian to die as well, fwiw.

I just woke up and didn't go back to look yet, just caught up and grabbed things I wanted to comment on, how does your N2 gel with how you acted on D3? For both you and fran. You saw Ouro was visited and had mention from him that he was both silenced and roleblocked. With how the game state was, I'd think that would put you more on his sde, at least until Flush freely claimed a few hours before day end.

When D2 rolled around and we got people crawling out of the woodwork to come after us, we suspected that we were hit by some kind of scum investigative role that were onto us on the prior night. In the wake of the deaths of those who suspected this, we're kinda rethinking this.

If Sorian is Town, my guess is that scum packs a Ninja to counteract us.

I would also +1 a ninja if you are telling the truth.

Also, i hate to go back to this topic again (partly because it already contributed to a mislynch), but can we go back to FEP's "slip" again for a second?



We now know that Ouro is Town and FEP is Scum. I think we should ask the following questions:

1. Was this phrasing an accident? Is Scum FEP so nervous he is "throwing people under the bus" that aren't even on his team? Or does he know he's going to get lynched and wants to set up a chainlynch? How does the fact that he is the first person to point out the slip factor into the answer?

2. If the answer to the above is "it was on purpose", the next question is: Does FEP strike us like a player that would come up with such a great deception?

3. If the answer to the second question is "no", then this means a) that Kark is not Scum because then the Scum chat would have been blocked and b) that somebody with a love for malicious deception is in the Scum team.


I have no idea what's the answer to 1. I would tend to "no" for 2. And the third questions is also quite interesting: the people I would think are most likely to plan something like this are Darryl (Town) and Karkador (which doesn't work because a)).


What's your opinion on all this?

I don't think it's really an over the top deception. Once Ouro flipped town, it read to me like FEP did it on purpose, especially with him pointing it out so fast but I don't think he would have needed help coming up with it.

So, sorian and saw are still alive despite their role claim. Wonder why

Wait no I don't, it's because they're scum

That kill makes almost no sense to me. I know I was scum reading them more than most but I feel like there are better town read targets and, you are right, a roleblocker should be a worry. I'd be unsurprised to find they have a role cop now, it's the only thing that makes sense for that. Seeing a better role means there is an air of uncertainty. They could have ended up with a free cop check in a worst case scenario for scum.

if he knows that there can be a virgin

I thought the general consensus was that if there's a hooker there's a virgin.

While I do admit the role doesn't mentioned a virgin, it is pretty specific in its use of hooker instead of roleblocker. Anyone who has played mafia for a bit would have noticed.

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In terms of 4 possible scum teams? I doubt it, we've seen no hint of a neutral and 4 sounds like too much unless there is a very town sided neutral about, I'd even go so far as to say it would have to be a killing neutral looking for more scum than town.

In terms of Xbro's possible slip, I can kind of see it? It definitely does look odd but my main hitch is why is Kark versed enough to correct it when Xbro isn't? I still scum read them fro reasons independent of the silence but it's hard for me to care about the silence itself since it is so vague on what scum would and would not know when they get hit.
 

Sophia

Member
May I ask why? I've stated a million and five times now I don't like how cagey you both are but I don't understand why you would be so reserved in giving out reads as Town. That doesn't make any sense to me.

Because Crimson wasn't there, and he posted his reads in the love boat. I didn't know how much he wanted to share in regards to his non Kitsune/FEP rankings.
 

franconp

Member
I just woke up and didn't go back to look yet, just caught up and grabbed things I wanted to comment on, how does your N2 gel with how you acted on D3? For both you and fran. You saw Ouro was visited and had mention from him that he was both silenced and roleblocked. With how the game state was, I'd think that would put you more on his sde, at least until Flush freely claimed a few hours before day end.

Because we didn't know any aligment. We knew that Ouro was targeted by Flush but no by what role. Also given how Ouro played D2 town targeting him was very likely.
 

Ty4on

Member
Uh, what does PoE stand for?
If I may answer before Sorian; it means Process of Elimination

Using primarily town reads and tells to isolate the field down to potential Mafia candidates

My kitsune/FEP read was mostly PoE. I didn't have a big scum slip or anything, but I also had no reason to think they were town. Their lack of townieness made them scummy.
 

acohrs

Member
Why are you ignoring the other question and changing the subject?



Why are you ignoring my previous argument?

I feel like I'm talking to a wall right now.



I think they confirmed that their role said hooker so just googling it you would know how it works. If you are scum even if you don't know if there are virgins or not you wouldn't target the same target twice just in case.

Also, and this is just how I would have played as a scum hooker, a good way to use the role would be target a player and then kill them the next night so you would be sure to avoid a potential virgin using their role.

To Fran, it's possible although as pointed out, how did they know that such a role existed at the time?
 

franconp

Member
To Fran, it's possible although as pointed out, how did they know that such a role existed at the time?

I don't understand the question? WHO know WHAT role existed?

If you are talking about how they knew the virgin existed I already answered that. If you google the role you will know how it works so you would be careful using it.
 

Ty4on

Member
In terms of Xbro's possible slip, I can kind of see it? It definitely does look odd but my main hitch is why is Kark versed enough to correct it when Xbro isn't? I still scum read them fro reasons independent of the silence but it's hard for me to care about the silence itself since it is so vague on what scum would and would not know when they get hit.
The way Kark corrects him reads like he's shushing him. He is being very clear it is day and night instead of just casually mentioning they're blocked for night too.

It's vague what scum is told, but I think we can guess quite accurately (assuming Flush is telling the truth) that scum will be told what the effect of the blocker is for them and what message town pairs will get. Especially being the first blocked team it's easy to skim through and miss the part about town's message.
 

Sawneeks

Banned
RIP Ty's purity.

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Sorian

Banned
The way Kark corrects him reads like he's shushing him. He is being very clear it is day and night instead of just casually mentioning they're blocked for night too.

It's vague what scum is told, but I think we can guess quite accurately (assuming Flush is telling the truth) that scum will be told what the effect of the blocker is for them and what message town pairs will get. Especially being the first blocked team it's easy to skim through and miss the part about town's message.

Like I said, I can see it. It's just at this point, even believing Flush completely (which I do), I'm getting second hand information about a conversation a player had with a mod that they could tell was being purposely vague. There's a lot of room in there for a lot of variations between Burb telling them nothing to Burb telling them "yo, town is blocked for this long but you guys are only blocked for this long." It's why I don't have a lot of interest in using that to push my logic, you can interpret it a lot of different ways.
 

Ty4on

Member
I guess

I feel looking scum chat itself being blocked is more kosher and D2 makes more sense then. D2 is kinda a trainwreck for scum IMO as the pair could have been saved, but it just spiraled out of control. Like if Ouro is lynched suddenly the kitsune lynch loses a lot of momentum come D3 (for many reasons, a town lynch also kinda resets things).
 

Sawneeks

Banned
So a lot of this is going to be taking from my massive read over of Kits/FEP interactions so here's the post where it sums it all up and has links to the other parts.

Also, I understand that Rac/Acohrs can't answer for Muffin/Sam but considering how late they subbed in we don't have much of a choice other than to look at both pairs of players in this boat. I will be going over what Rac/Acohrs have done since joining but that will be a bit later on.

Day 1:

This is post - Kits vs. Dragonz and, while Dragonz is on this list, Kits/FEP is oddly missing from this reads list. It's also rather a null read on VereDragonz, just a 'she was aggressive against Kits'.

Here is Sam's read lists, and take, on the situation. There's a lot of 'yeah this could be scummy but maybe not i guess' in some of these reads, most notably I feel are Dr. Fran and Kits/FEP. She was not as indecisive on VereDragonz.

Fire misattributes a read of ' Town v Town' on Dragonz v. Kits to Muffin, which he immediately corrects and says he still feels scummy about Dragonz but likes Vere.

A few posts later Muffin makes a post later where he says he feels even better about VereDragonz 'after the Kits thing' but still doesn't give any read or thought on Kits/FEP at all. This immediately contradicts his above read and nobody, to my knowledge, calls him out on it.

That is all the two ever really say on Kits/FEP besides a later post from Sam asking why people are so aggressive with side mentions to Darryl, Kits, and Dragonz. Despite being rather open and descriptive of their thoughts on VereDragonz, Kits/FEP is oddly absent from much of their discussions on Day 1.

Day End votes are:

Sam votes for Xkark. To note, they have gone back and forth on Xkark a bit leading up to this.

Towards Day End we get this post from Muffin stating he'd only really vote for Darryl or Kark. And continues on with saying Darryl defending himself is bad and that his after-the-fact pressure vote explination was just an excuse to jump on Kark.

Votes for Darryl after Dr. Worm calls him out and asks why he's on Xkark instead of Darryl.

Sam comments that she isn't confident in Kark being Scum and Darryl is suspicious and is considering a vote there. No mention of Orb/Worthy despite being the other leader. Yet despite this keeps a vote on Xbro for some reason???

Muffin votes Xbro after Orb gets two votes.

For completions sake, here is FEP's reads list which has Muffin/Sam as Town which I find odd as he says 'felt Sam's readlist was a decent effort' despite most of her reads being...well...nothing. Kits also never talks about them or brings them up.

Day 2

Sam's reaction to Kits read of Fran is 'why didn't you do a full check of someone and if you can't, why don't you pick someone/a top you have something to say about'. More questioning than condemning. Also follows up with why she doesn't understand how colluding with a partner is bad. I actually lightly Town read the latter response.

Muffin's first, and only, reaction to Kits' read of Fran and it's a 3-word response to Ouro. Muffin is trying really hard not to comment on Kits/FEP at all over these past two Day Phase which is really weird considering he's rather open with his thoughts on Day 1 and yet just skips this whole debacle entirely. ( to also note, Muffin DID respond before this and after Kits read. It was a Vote on Ouro asking him to play better and made no mention of the discussion going on around him. )

Sam comes in a bit later on and essentially says she has trouble reading fights and therefore doesn't know how to read Kits v Fran/Dragonz.

Day End votes are:

Muffin votes Darryl and has Kits as 4th on his list because 'that weird way of reading may be scummy but idk'. I mentioned this in my Kits/FEP post but I agree with Fran, it feels weird to put Worm and Kits on the same Scum List as that means he thinks Fran v Kits is Scum v Scum. He later clarifies it's more of a 'general list' but it does feel like he just threw suspicious people onto this list who were suspicious in general.

Sam gives a read of Kits and Dr. Fran that are, again, very 'well maybe but maybe not'.

Muffin's 'so nobody finds Darryl weird huh' post.

Sam doubles down after Darryl gives his reasons for finding them suspicious and votes for him.

I did mention how the back-and-forth here from Muffin and Darryl felt Townie because Muffin generally feels exasperated and frustrated ( even after a second reread he still does ) with how the argument is going but, after thinking on it some, I don't think it's necessarily alignment indicative? I've seen Scum and Town get frustrated like that when someone reads them and won't budge on what they feel is 'faulty logic' and I don't feel like that type of genuine reaction is only Town aligned.

After that, and a bit more back-and-forth with Darryl, both of them disappear for the rest of the Day Phase and Kits/FEP get lynched.

tl;dr of Day 1 + Day 2
Muffin and Sam generally avoid Kits/FEP or just sometimes out-right avoid them entirely. FEP has a weird read on Sam's reads list that he 'Town Reads' for some reason despite it being a whole bunch of nothing and Kits, to my knowledge, never really interactions with them either outside of one small response to Sam. Muffin's swapping read on VereDragonz is also odd since he Town Reads them after the 'kits thing' but says he feels bad on Dragonz? That makes no sense. What I find the most damning is Muffin straight ignoring Kits' reads list and instead votes for Ouro and then gets back into a little fight with Worm and Darryl. This lines up with him just ignoring them on Day 1 and after his thoughts and comments that are scattered through Day 1 I find it increasingly suspicious that he just ignored that situation and made no comments towards it. Scum too scared to read/attack their partner properly?
 

Sawneeks

Banned
Day 3:
This is the Day Phase that Sam/Muffin swap out and Rac/Acohrs swap in. I will be going over it but Burb has asked not to speculate too much on the behind the scenes so I will be going over it as much as necessary and that's it.

Sam comments here and tries to through shade on Darryl for him jumping over to Kits so much and says she will not discuss with him directly.

Muffin throws more Shade on Darryl/Nin under 'it's just a theory', attacks Sophia for saying Sam's tone is bad, and says they both aren't sure about lynching Ouro.

Muffin votes himself as he just really dislikes Darryl and has no answers to Dr. Worm. Unvotes shortly after and says he will discuss something.

They drop out shortly after this.

To be honest, after this whole debacle above and the 'Town Tell' from Day 1 I had really given them a pass for a while. However, after going over their interactions with Kits/FEP, I can't confidentially say that anymore. I've been on the receiving end of frustrating arguments as Town AND Scum before and know that their reaction to Darryl is likely genuine either way. You can say that this is a Town Tell, fine, but I ask you to look at all of the evidence presented so far and ask yourself is this reaction enough to give them a confident pass? If the answer is yes, why?

Rac/Acohrs replace in at #2982.

Acohrs makes a small smattering of comments here and here.

Rac went insane reading Day 1. I've subbed into a long game before and it really does suck, I don't envy you.

Rac: Crimson/Sophia being useful but could be misleading, Ouro is being dodgy, 'not much'. Also some shade at Monkey suggesting they be lynched.

Acohrs votes Ouro/KK because a 'vote on anybody won't do anything and Ouro will keep discussion on him until he flips'. Rac also tells him to unvote right after and they never discuss why??

Day End.

Day 4:

Rac: responds to my comment that Kits/FEP didn't have any interactions with Muffin/Sam by saying 'they were annoyed with the 1v1s'? Not even remotely sure how that answers or clears up anything at all.

I gave acohrs deja vu, which he never elaborates one. And no, this follow-up post of 'I scum read her because it reminds me of our old game' isn't an explanation. Also says here he needs to look into 2 more pairs which I don't think he ever elaborates on either.

Acohrs: enjoys Nomad's posts because they're either scummy or NAI but they're funny. A non-read.

Acohrs doesn't know what to think of Sawrian's claim because his gut really dislikes Sawneeks.

They also apparently have way more posts than Sam/Muffin did in their chat on OG.

Rac: We lynch someone who didn't get Ouro's messages, we lynch Sawrian, or we lynch Royal Monkey. Those are our options.

Acohrs votes for me and wants to see me flip. Still not elaboration on who he wanted to re-read that were interesting him.

Rac goes on a bit after this that he wants to lynch Star and/or Dr. Fran because it throws shade on Sawrian, says he doesn't get why we should stop lynching PRs now, and claims that we can live until end game without worry if we're Scum. Also deflects my question here of 'why mislynch two other people because you don't trust me' and doesn't give a proper answer.

I backed up Monkey on saying that Rac/Acohrs don't have a presense yet and them not elaborating on anything isn't helping. Acohrs responds by saying he's been clear on his thoughts despite never actually elaborating on his scum read. I respond to that here saying that he hadn't actually explained anything and....he never responded to this. At all.

Rac jumps in later and votes for Sorian and I, later says it's because he trusts Acohr's read ( what read ), people were concerned about lynching PRs but now it's 'suddenly not okay to', and says since then we haven't gotten any info from the flip and some claims give no info. Also says he doesn't trust Royal/Monkey but I've never seen them once pursue that lead.

Day 5:

So far we have a question from Rac, monkey asking why Rac was defeatist yesterday ( I never got that impression from them, Monkey. Where did you get that? ), and some posts here of acohrs jokingly asking why on earth Sawrian is still alive.

Also more dodging by Acohrs on why he Scum reads me by stating he has 'already given his answer'. Also suggests that maybe there is a Scum Pair in the Top Posters like cabot in Anime.

tl;dr

Vote: Rac

Muffin/Sam's ignoring of Kits/FEP strikes me as Scum not knowing how to react to their partner and therefore just ignoring them or giving only half-reads. Their insistence on Darryl at the End of Day 2 reads to me as Scum not knowing how to save their partner and just staying out of it entirely which lines up with them just ignoring Kits/FEP despite them being a hot topic on Day 1 and Day 2. There was someone who said something along the lines of the Kit lynch 'feeling too easy' and this may be the reason for that? Their frustration towards Darryl is something I feel is rather NAI after thinking on it as I've seen both Scum and Town give that kind of reaction before when arguing with someone who they feel is using 'faulty' logic. Since entering the game, Rac and Acohrs have done a whole lot of nothing. From ignoring questions, deflecting questions, and hardly giving any elaboration they haven't really given any thoughts or comments to anything going on other than Sorian and Myself. When they do read others it's either a non-read on Nomad, slight shade on Monkey that goes nowhere, or promises of future reads that just also go nowhere. Nothing I have seen from either pair is pushing me towards a Town Read of them.
 
DAY 5 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:

rac & acohrs (1)
Sawneeks 4091

No active vote for Day 5: acohrs, CrimsonFist, Dr. Worm, franconp, hey_monkey, Karkador, Natiko, Nomadic Sparks, rac, Royal_Flush (has previously voted), Sophia, Sorian, Trigger, Ty4on, Xbro

Day 5 Postcount: acohrs 9, CrimsonFist 11, Dr. Worm 8, franconp 10, hey_monkey 8, Karkador 3, Natiko 5, Nomadic Sparks 10, rac 2, Royal_Flush 7, Sawneeks 7, Sophia 8, Sorian 4, Trigger 4, Ty4on 19, Xbro 5


Day 5 ends:
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Automated vote tally here

9 votes for majority
 

Natiko

Banned
Putting out a vote, interesting.

To respond to your actual point, this is meta but acohrs seems entirely too bored and disinterested. Makes me doubt whether he's scum.
 

Sawneeks

Banned
Also, I implore you that if you do have suspicions or anything, get them out now. We lose if we're quiet and don't take initiative to figure things out and just let lynches happen.

I doubt we're fighting a 4-boat Scum Team so this likely means we're up against a 3-boat Team. Since we already got Kits/FEP then there is likely 2-boats left, meaning we're at 6 Town v 2 Scum. If we end up mislynching today and Scum get a kill off tonight then we're at 4 Town v 2 Scum, or MyLo.

But in a worse-case-scenario and we are at a 4-boat Scum Team then we're at 5 Town v 3 Scum right now so today would be MyLo. This is the same if we have 2 Scum Boats left and a Neutral at play as well.
 

Natiko

Banned
Given what you just said why are you pushing a vote if you admit there's some chance we're in mylo? What would be the downside to no lynching today regardless?
 

Natiko

Banned
I will say though that I agree we need to talk through what we all think today because I think it's critical we come to at least a vague consensus on where we would lynch today if we were going to and we should follow through on that tomorrow. There's lots of mind games that could be played in that last day phase to throw us off.
 
I have to catch up (class and then family stuff) but forgive me - I've never hit mylo or anything, but if we blanket no lynch, how do we win? Is that not the downside? Legit question because I really don't know.

Okay, reading back a bit.
 

Sorian

Banned
Given what you just said why are you pushing a vote if you admit there's some chance we're in mylo? What would be the downside to no lynching today regardless?

There is no downside and I've said as much here and in our chat, it's just I also highly doubt we are in mylo, I don't see a world with 4 scum teams for this game. I already agreed with Sawneeks that if we didn't stop a kill with Ty that I'd vote with her on rac and acohrs if we were still alive.

I was afk since I just got to work an hour ago though so didn't realize we were voting already.

VOTE: Rac

For the record, I'm also highly doubting that there is a neutral here, there's been nothing to indicate one and I don't think there are enough suspicious people left to justify a scum team AND a neutral imo.
 

Sophia

Member
So far we have a question from Rac, monkey asking why Rac was defeatist yesterday ( I never got that impression from them, Monkey. Where did you get that? ), and some posts here of acohrs jokingly asking why on earth Sawrian is still alive.

Also more dodging by Acohrs on why he Scum reads me by stating he has 'already given his answer'. Also suggests that maybe there is a Scum Pair in the Top Posters like cabot in Anime.

Hmm... it is kind of odd that acohrs thinks you two are scum. We do have partial confirmation that you blocked Ouro twice in a row (in that Star/AB flipped town) and blocking Ouro twice seems reasonable if you were a town Hooker and worried about a potential Virgin.
 

Sorian

Banned
I have to catch up (class and then family stuff) but forgive me - I've never hit mylo or anything, but if we blanket no lynch, how do we win? Is that not the downside? Legit question because I really don't know.

Okay, reading back a bit.

The correct play in mylo is always to no lynch because it forces scum to kill off someone and you have less teams to choose from. 4 people with 1 scum left is easier to hide in than 3 people with 1 scum left.
 
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