Why? I'm just saying how I'd probably feel. I don't care if an animal that I didn't save dies and becomes my dinner.
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Rescued piglets served up as sausages to firefighters
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Why? I'm just saying how I'd probably feel. I don't care if an animal that I didn't save dies and becomes my dinner.
That's my point.. it's about perception. Plenty of people have pigs as pets and don't view them as only existing for slaughter. They're just not as popular as an animal like a dog. My neighbor had a pet pig.
Depending on who you ask, possibly people who have bred pitbulls (or other "fighting" dogs) for years with the only intention of fighting them, might tell you they only exist for that reason.
Either way, pigs are proven to make for great pets, so it doesn't matter what they were originally intended for. That point falls apart in the context of choice. Most people on this site probably have the liberty to choose if they want to eat meat or not. I'd be willing to bet on it
It's a little less twisted since they were still saved with the intent of still being eaten. Now if they were saved from being eaten (like when the President "pardons" turkeys), that would be twisted.
Now that I think about it, I could probably never work on a farm. I'd rather not think of my food as having once been alive.
Now that I think about it, I could probably never work on a farm. I'd rather not think of my food as having once been alive.
Luckily I don't look for other peoples' approval about what is or isn't interesting to me.
I believe most people have morals enough (and our societies globally to reinforce them) that the thought of consuming another human is immediately off-putting. If our societies instead treated human consumption as normal or of no consequence, I wonder if that would affect attitudes about it. It's pretty unsettling and not based upon hard science or any dogma - it's a train of thought I had after reading through posts here. Maybe it's the other way around - our morals affect society. Or both ways? But that's probably going way off topic.
I think this thread is a pretty good example of instincts confronting morality. If we ignore the biased phrasing of the article blurb and consider the pigs were just food product awaiting harvest, then the situation is just a happy tale of do gooders being rewarded. If we instead place ourselves in the pigs' hooves, we get a hell of a piece of black humor.
Well, technically they were going to be eaten if they survived the farm fire, even if not "rescued" by the firefighters
Rentahamster
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Funny/dark story, but seriously, this is like if the firefighters saved a barn full of potatoes and then were given a gift of french fries.
Yeah, this is fucked up.
PdotMichael
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Then you are just a hypocrite.
Everything that lives could make a pet. The potential pet quality of something doesn't decide if we should use those animals for other things.
SugarDaddy
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Cause they would have burnt to a crisp in the barn and then nobody gets sausages or bacon
Yeah same here.
Dreadnought
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Those firefighters must be glad they saved the bacon
Astral Dog
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My posts do have intent, but that intent doesn't include shaming meat eaters or promoting veganism.
Well something like a lion doesn't make a good pet. Pigs are good for eating. They make meat. They're also good pets. They make good friends.
But if you can eat without consuming meat, and you're ok with that, you can decide to help humans and animals by not eating them.
It's pretty simple to me
Ethically, it makes sense. Logically, it makes sense.
There's also animal sanctuaries and it seems like people owning different animals as pets is on the rise.
Like I said, things can change, even if slowly
So, the moral of the story is: everyone adopt a pig.
CloudyTuba
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That's a nice way of explaining it.
PdotMichael
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You are talking for like four pages how people would eat people because reasons.
StickSoldier
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God, I wanna feel upset at this becuase the idea of it sounds so awful, but when I think of all the slaughtered animals I have eaten, how can I? I'M A MONSTER!
perfectchaos007
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I'm glad the pigs got to live an extra 6 months before dying a humanely death. Pretty cool that the firefighters got to eat them.
How is that hypocritical?
Sir_Crocodile
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Well, I eat pork in many different ways, so although it sounds a bit weird I don't really see an issue with it
PETA trying to push vegan dogs on them is pretty funny
1) They'd have been overdone
2) They'd have been tortured to death rather then being stunned first.
PETA trying to push vegan dogs on them is pretty funny
1) They'd have been overdone
2) They'd have been tortured to death rather then being stunned first.
PdotMichael
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You operate with the premise once we decide something has pet quality, whatever that exactly means, because people love fishes as pets as well, despite the fact they aren't doing anything, it's morally wrong to eat their meat.
Because I had the thought and considered it interesting enough to post. You seem pretty defensive considering it isn't some damning judgment upon people.
I believe it's morally wrong to eat their meat because if we have the choice NOT to, and we can be healthy and we can eat tasty food (without meat), why would we continue to perpetuate the awful cycle of raising animals only for slaughter? Seems like a straightforward premise to operate under, no? That's not gunna be everyone, and it saddens me that more people don't do it, or at least cut back on their consumption, but that's reality. Like I said, I'm not gunna snap judge you because you're eating a big mac.
A fish is hardly a pet, I think it's a useless comparison to make. They're behind glass and you don't even interact with them. I mean, if you take care of them and provide for them.. I guess? Maybe you have a good list or reason for why owning a fish as a pet is a great thing. Still, why perpetuate the cycle of slaughter of fish when it's unnecessary? Whether or not they make good pets makes no difference in regard to senseless killing. It's just an added bonus
A pig is much more like a dog in the sense that it's smart (even smarter than dogs I believe) and they aren't very aggressive and they're generally just as loving (make for good companions). Like, good qualities to have for being a pet. You can touch them, cuddle them, pet them, teach them. Take them out for walks. Interact with them.
Basically: if we don't NEED to consume them, and we are OK with not doing it, why do it? And if we can take an animal in as a pet or watch over them in a sanctuary as an alternative, why should we not do it?
Dash_Riprock
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Reading that story made me hungry. Think I'll get a bacon cheeseburger.
PdotMichael
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I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of GAF (and people in general) in here would consume it without moral quandaries
Though that's not even important. You are just so baseless in your claims and assumptions that your line of thinking isn't that interesting at all.
I'm still a little confused so I can eat fishes and lions because of their low pet qualities?
Earthbound64
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This.
Alcotholic
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This is pretty fucked up. I dont know.
I'm not a vegetarian, but I'm a little saddened that these piglets didn't live for a few more years.
I'm not a vegetarian, but I'm a little saddened that these piglets didn't live for a few more years.
No, I just edited my post. You don't need my permission to do anything. You can perpetuate the slaughter cycle if you enjoy eating meat, but I hope you choose not to or to reduce your consumption.
Because there's lots of great alternatives out there
But there's no need to be snide we're just having a conversation
PdotMichael
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It's always confusing for me to see the arguments for moving what shouldn't be eating.
Either you are okay with eating all animals from a moral point of view or you are not. The definition of life doesn't make a difference in that regard.
But the definition of life is what CHANGES those preconceptions (an animal's purpose, its worth)
For example if someone considers a pig a synonym for bacon, the value on its life and well being is lowered, therefore the traditional cycle of consumption continues
That statement wasn't made with judgment. Though it seems this topic and your posts are devolving into political territory.
PdotMichael
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A fish fulfills the same definition of life as a pig.
So either you accept that producing food is a good and acceptable reason to kill animal lives or you don't.
Vital Tundra
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The problem isn't really the fact they were made into food, but they were saved by firefighters, then subsequently eaten by them. Just a strange, kinda gross cycle that happened there. Otherwise its whatever.
buttery fistful
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I would have preferred bacon over sausage but I wouldn't complain
Well.. I mean yes, we can all agree that they're alive, but what I'm TRYING to say is that we all place different values on different types of life. And the value on the lives of animals for slaughter is miserably low, based on preconceptions that we're taught from birth.
It's a difficult place to climb out of because it's easy to dismiss from our moral compass, or simply ignore the issue entirely. I was the latter for my entire life until fairly recently.
And it's not black and white in the sense that we accept it or we don't. For example, like I stated before, some people don't have a choice so their well being comes before all else, and that's understandable. For those of us with more of a choice, we can consider the morality easier
I think Vegans have the ethical and moral high ground on issues like this.
As a meat eater, I concede that, and the fact that this story unnerves me certainly is something that gives me pause. Turning "this gives me pause" into giving up meat is the ethical leap I've never been able to make.
As a meat eater, I concede that, and the fact that this story unnerves me certainly is something that gives me pause. Turning "this gives me pause" into giving up meat is the ethical leap I've never been able to make.
MisterR
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Everything causes cancer. Bacon is delicious.
RichiRamjag
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You all act like they got a call saying "come save the pigs!!!". They're firemen who put out a fire and pigs happened to be involved.
MisterR
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Plants are alive too and they have decent pet qualities.
EYEL1NER
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There are farm-owners out there who assist in the birthing of some of their animals, provide them food and shelter, keep those animals healthy and care for them when sick, and then kill and eat them when they have reached maturity. I don't think this is any more cruel or sadistic than that (and I don't think that is cruel or sadistic either).
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