No matter how many times I see that movie it feels like the first.
We usually use BMPs but it's not feasible in the current system when dealing with 4K shots right now. We're working on a new zoomer system, though, to improve things.The textures aren't different on her face. It's just that she is in a different state of bloodiness.
I've also discovered that DF's comparison tool actually doesn't show the raw image, but a compressed jpg of a compressed jpg and the PS4 screenshots seem to suffer more.
I've been looking very closely and it appears there is some difference in the leather.
I wonder if this is a change to a shader rather than a texture?
So what happened, those textures aren't new?
We usually use BMPs but it's not feasible in the current system when dealing with 4K shots right now. We're working on a new zoomer system, though, to improve things.
Here's a 23mb BMP source file for you (from PS4 Pro). This is taken from as still a shot as possible to prevent motion blur. It's basically non moving at this point.
http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=06570820124648077849
I do expect that, with full post-processing enabled (which will likely be the case in the final game) things will look slightly different on Xbox One X.
In the end, people just play the game and don't give a shit about some stupid dirt on her face.
I mean, do PS users even care atm about an "old" game? They have better games to wait for then go back and look at Lara again. Maybe Microsoft needs to re-introduce this game again for Xbox One X. They don't have anything new to show eventually...
Yeah, nothing I can do about it right now, I'm afraid. That's just how it is. Hopefully things will improve with the new one.Ah cool, it seems to be an issue sitewide with eurogamer, not just DF. You can see the same thing happening on the banner for the article.
Wear and tear Texture is dynamic for all platforms.Cool to see the dirty face texture was figured out. So basically the 1X has the high resolution PC textures, is that where we're currently at?
You care enough to post and Troll at the same time. AFAIK this trailer was released by Square Enix, not MS. However you're probably right, MS must be focusing on old games because they have nothing new to show.
Here's a 23mb BMP source file for you (from PS4 Pro). This is taken from as still a shot as possible to prevent motion blur. It's basically non moving at this point.
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I mean, do PS users even care atm about an "old" game?
Wear and tear Texture is dynamic for all platforms.
Naturally ps4 is blurrier overall due to being CB.
Yeah, I'm really bummed that some sites managed to get capture of this when SE was adamant that we could not. I suppose it's not hard to figure out why. It'll have to wait until final release, I suppose.I was watching this video
https://youtu.be/qBCdrRmJjyk
And yes Native 4K on YouTube, full of compression and it's noticeable. But in this video they show off all the modes and to be honest I expected the difference between Native 4K and the other two modes to be bigger. I was sitting quite close to my TV too.
I may end up playing my second playthrough in high framerate after all. We'll see. It's cool that we can just switch between the modes on the fly, I like that. I DID really notice it with Horizon when my friend brought his PS4 Pro over and we switched between resolution and performance.
I assume performance mode is 1080p and resolution is CB 4K in Horizon?
That would explain some of the subdued colors in the video.
I think that's a misrepresentation of improved textures and it fooled many people. This is just a regular screen/texture without DOF.
I have not seen the improved AA on distant or close objects, if anything I've seen a tad bit more aliasing in that version..
As for the other improvements specified, I think it's mostly improvements over the XB1 version....and not necessarily improvements over the PRO+PC outright...For the Pro, native resolution and improved framerate, we can expect to see upticks there on XB, but I think the PRO covers everything else highlighted in that video....I would guess the PC covers everything the XBONEX covers and even more or at a higher quality, but at this point, we'll just wait for final XB code to confirm...
That would explain some of the subdued colors in the video.
I think that's a misrepresentation of improved textures and it fooled many people. This is just a regular screen/texture without DOF.
I have not seen the improved AA on distant or close objects, if anything I've seen a tad bit more aliasing in that version..
As for the other improvements specified, I think it's mostly improvements over the XB1 version....and not necessarily improvements over the PRO+PC outright...For the Pro, native resolution and improved framerate, we can expect to see upticks there on XB, but I think the PRO covers everything else highlighted in that video....I would guess the PC covers everything the XBONEX covers and even more or at a higher quality, but at this point, we'll just wait for final XB code to confirm...
I feel like Youtube has never been a good tool to measure IQ differences and I feel that it becomes an even worse tool for that with higher resolutions.
I love how one mediocre to good game is becoming the centerpiece for a new console war. Dear lord.
Mark my words: nobody cares about this game anymore.
Shit, I'm still making my way through underworld lol.
So the 1X doesn't have the higher resolution PC textures? It looked like a match for the higher quality textures from the trailer.
Its not it's just gaf ethnocentrism as usual.I played and beat the game on PS4 Pro, I'd give it somewhere around an 8.
It's not mediocre but I have no interest in playing it again.
And yes it is quite funny how a game released two years ago is at the center of the console war.
This medicore game suddenly matters because 'game on my more expensive plastic is better than yours'I love how one mediocre to good game is becoming the centerpiece for a new console war. Dear lord.
Mark my words: nobody cares about this game anymore.
Shit, I'm still making my way through underworld lol.
This medicore game suddenly matters because 'game on my more expensive plastic is better than yours'
Tomb Raider Twitter has posted a new image
Too busy playing Uncharted Lost Legacy which looks way better than Tomb Raider anyway.I dunno, maybe they are too busy playing the Crash Bandicoot Remake to care.
Just like it suddenly mattered again when the PRO got its version?
I love how one mediocre to good game is becoming the centerpiece for a new console war. Dear lord.
Mark my words: nobody cares about this game anymore.
Shit, I'm still making my way through underworld lol.
Just like it suddenly mattered again when the PRO got its version? please....
It matters because it's a point of comparison.. one of few atm.
In the end, people just play the game and don't give a shit about some stupid dirt on her face.
I mean, do PS users even care atm about an "old" game? They have better games to wait for then go back and look at Lara again.
Too busy playing Uncharted Lost Legacy which looks way better than Tomb Raider anyway.
No I think he means that the features they mentioned are improvement to the Xbox One version and people are taking as improvement over the Pro/PC version.Do you believe there are no improvements over Pro? LOL
Urg. So why are you even in here?Too busy playing Uncharted Lost Legacy which looks way better than Tomb Raider anyway.
Too busy playing Uncharted Lost Legacy which looks way better than Tomb Raider anyway.
To be fair... wasn't the pro release generally when this game came out for the PS platform, making it a new release?
Ok so here's what I see in the difference: they painted Lara's jacket a slightly darker brown and added a few more white dots in the air in the XboneX version. That's how this shows up on my iPhone screen and I'm pretty sure it's a 4K screen. So, by my deduction, the variances are minimal at best.
But look, you people seem all roused up by the variances here.
Who's to say that these "erection-worthy" variances aren't due to the CPU of the PS4 just having a bad day? Sometimes my PC chugs along and sometimes it doesn't when I load up excel. Consoles work the same way.
I think there's a lot more subtle variances at work here that we all need to be cognizant of before we allow ourselves to be engorged by teasing out pixels.
I wonder if we're going to see 25 page threads for every Xbox X vs Pro thread going forwards lol
This thread was pretty nice with some good discussion until a bunch of weirdos turned up with their drivebys, to try and sour it.
What has happened, did PSN go down for maintenance and you suddenly needed something else to do?
Not many cutscenes actually and there's an open-world aspect to it tooHe said he was busy "playing" Uncharted LL. Since playing an Uncharted game is more like watching a sequence of cut-scenes with a few QTEs in between, I'd say it is indeed possible he got bored and needed something else to do.
He said he was busy "playing" Uncharted LL. Since playing an Uncharted game is more like watching a sequence of cut-scenes with a few QTEs in between, I'd say it is indeed possible he got bored and needed something else to do.
He said he was busy "playing" Uncharted LL. Since playing an Uncharted game is more like watching a sequence of cut-scenes with a few QTEs in between, I'd say it is indeed possible he got bored and needed something else to do.
He said he was busy "playing" Uncharted LL. Since playing an Uncharted game is more like watching a sequence of cut-scenes with a few QTEs in between, I'd say it is indeed possible he got bored and needed something else to do.
Man these threads bring out the worst. There is no reason to bring up and especially Troll LL in this thread.
As this is an early comparison thread it's getting some attention. Those legit shook should seek refuge in the 'I can't believe this video happened' thread.I wonder if we're going to see 25 page threads for every Xbox X vs Pro thread going forwards lol
The textures aren't different on her face. It's just that she is in a different state of bloodiness.
I've also discovered that DF's comparison tool actually doesn't show the raw image, but a compressed jpg of a compressed jpg and the PS4 screenshots seem to suffer more.
I've been looking very closely and it appears there is some difference in the leather.
I wonder if this is a change to a shader rather than a texture?
I think this points to the Version that has been shown/screenshotted by the publisher being the 4K native version actually having some effects scaled down/turned off.
That's just mud/dirt decals being more visible on the clothes in the X1X screen. Same explanation as the face texture differences.
I have not seen the improved AA on distant or close objects, if anything I've seen a tad bit more aliasing in that version..
As for the other improvements specified, I think it's mostly improvements over the XB1 version....and not necessarily improvements over the PRO+PC outright...For the Pro, native resolution and improved framerate, we can expect to see upticks there on XB, but I think the PRO covers everything else highlighted in that video....I would guess the PC covers everything the XBONEX covers and even more or at a higher quality, but at this point, we'll just wait for final XB code to confirm...
But there is less on the Xbox One X. Why is her face dirtier , but her clothes cleaner?