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Gundam Versus |OT| The World, Western release out now!
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The Sum of Zero
Member
Move in a direction and double tap the button to boost.
And damn that clutch Exia Repair gimmick won me a game earlier in 2v2. Don't think that Sandrock player expected it.
ThatChairMan
Member
G-Arcane is pretty fun. I think I like shooting suits more, just because I blank out whenever I get up close and forget about side stepping or melee or anything else.
Doesn't seem to work for me.
I move forward and double tap O and nothin.
Specifically I have O mapped to Boost Dive.
Also damn, I was having a fight against Rau but the lag kicked in and gave me an error. Seems to be happening more.
The Xtortionist
Member
Having some issues with Gouf Custom. Sometimes when I press R2 to grapple, the suit will do a melee rush attack instead. Just lost a match when this happened a bunch and it really sucked. Anyone know why this happens?
Tyrant Rave
Banned
Boost and Boost Dive are two separate things. Boost Dive lets you fast fall from the air.
JoeyJungle
Banned
Is there a way to look up movelists? What does talgeese's down+triangle do?
Hm. I'll look over the controls again. Didn't see an option to simply boost.
Can you boost on every character or no?
Tyrant Rave
Banned
Boost is a universal ability. The OP has the controls and everything laid out.
Vigilant Gambit
Member
JoeyJungle
Banned
Is there a way to only search for matches from users with a certain ping? Every single match in 2v2 or 3v3 is laggy as hell
Mr Fahrenheit
Member
Forgot how free the West is at Gundam.
I wish Kapool was still one unit
I wish Kapool was still one unit
You know what's souring me on the game?
The netcode is straight up broken for me. Anything outside of 1v1 or coop becomes a 1 bar match. I never had a smooth 2v2 ever.
Whatever they did with the FB netcode, I want it back.
tl;dr:
I wanted Gundam Versus, but got a broken netcode instead.
Wouldn't surprise me if this some kind of bug with the netcode. Tried the JPN Beta, JPN full version and now the western open beta. No dice, completely unplayable laggy mess.
Mastermind Vade
Banned
Did people already get their codes? I didn't get an email ;-;
ThatChairMan
Member
It's an open beta.
It's open, anyone can play. Download the Gundam Versus trial client from PSN
OmegaSmash
Member
Now I'm getting synch issues out the ass. Great.
Anyways, Bamco needs to include a list of all melee moves and variations.
Anyways, Bamco needs to include a list of all melee moves and variations.
Mastermind Vade
Banned
Oh I thought I signed up for something on their site. Well anyways downloading right now thanks y'all
D1renegade
Member
As far as I know it's just a sexier version of the boost dive that consumes slightly less meter.
The Zero System (as well as other similar buffs for suits like Blitz's Mirage Colloid) prevent the enemy's attacks from tracking you. They'll still be locked on, but it treats you like you were in green lock even in red lock.
I think you also take more damage if you do manage to get hit while it's active though.
Novel Mike
Member
Completely agree about the Tutorial.
Many of Freedom's moves just leave it open a lot, I played the old Gundam Vs. Seed games back on PS2 and it feels similar in concept but Freedom here certainly doesn't feel very agile which is one of the trademarks of the design. It needs better mobility but it would make more sense if it was Strike Freedom with the Dragoons available. That said, I may just need more time with it and the various other units to really know how if Freedom is simply not as good as it could be. Might be a cost thing too, for a 400 unit it doesn't seem especially powerful since the beam spams are so easy to dodge and completely leave it open although it does make up for that for being fairly versatile for both close and ranged combat it just feels like in general its missing something.
Yeah getting so many sync issues just had to quit out the game. Just got to the point I couldn't play
freeofgreed
Member
Game seems fun, but the netcode is hot doodoo. Tried a 3 V 3 and that shit was a power point presentation.
unpurposed
Member
Is there any way to bring up the pause / start menu during an online match? My brother and I played ultimate battle and we couldn't find any way to exit but to finish the entire 15 rounds.
Gai Murakumo
Member
Those having sync and lag issues when I have played the Japanese version this did occur but really not as often as in this beta. So that can mean one of two things:
1. They are still trying to fine tune the net code to fit the western world.
Or
2. The internet in Japan is much better than many places in North America and Europe etc. Where unless you have decent internet you are going to lag up everyone else in a match.
Now granted other games have done a better job with their net code then how this beta is running but I just wanted to get my thoughts out there.
1. They are still trying to fine tune the net code to fit the western world.
Or
2. The internet in Japan is much better than many places in North America and Europe etc. Where unless you have decent internet you are going to lag up everyone else in a match.
Now granted other games have done a better job with their net code then how this beta is running but I just wanted to get my thoughts out there.
Why in god's name did they not include the tutorial in this beta? It needs it really bad.
Impressions so far are kinda ehhh, even as a big Gundam fan. Gonna play more tomorrow but right now I don't think I really want to spend $60 on this. Netcode is awful as well (I know it's a beta, but still) I'd probably enjoy it a lot more if it wasn't running at like 3fps most of the matches.
Impressions so far are kinda ehhh, even as a big Gundam fan. Gonna play more tomorrow but right now I don't think I really want to spend $60 on this. Netcode is awful as well (I know it's a beta, but still) I'd probably enjoy it a lot more if it wasn't running at like 3fps most of the matches.
The Sum of Zero
Member
Have you tried combining the rolling move with the attacks? I've been doing much better after learning that trick. Feels a lot more mobile.
R2 to roll then press L2/L1/Square and it'll use those attacks mid-roll. Will also work with a melee attack if you're close enough.
Getting the winning kill with an upside down Full Burst is great
Novel Mike
Member
I have and its a great utility but its the normal movement that I think feels the most off. Freedom feels oddly heavy or clunky when it should be more agile (and I think it was more agile in the PS2 games but its been a looong time since I played those XD)
Again might help if it was Strike Freedom and had the Dragoon system to make up for it but as of now I think it feels a bit under-powered compared to other 400 units I've tried.
Edit: Also as other people have said, the net code for this beta is very concerning and makes me very concerned about picking the game up day one but we shall see.
It's actually kinda hilarious, because the description of the beta includes the Tutorial. Even Dissidia NT has a tutorial video in the game.
Gundam Versus itself isn't too difficult, but without knowing basic mechanics and how to utilize them it becomes a slog to play.
Adding veteran players to the mix who ravish destroying beginners, one can imagine the outcome.
Sometimes I think BN wants the game to bomb hard.
Also those who like to play singleplayer, what's in the beta is about everything that the full game offers. The only difference is the volume of the current modes, that you'll have to unlock ALL Strikers, some alternative pilots for some MS and a handful of navigators like Haro. The unlocking itself is very grindy, because not only do you have to earn enough GP, you also need to "level up" the Mobile Suits before they become available for GP purchase.
Also the Time/GP ratio for singleplayer is terrible. From what I recall playing online is pretty much the best way to earn GP.
To be brutally honest here, the japanese version already has a barrage of DLC units. So you might not exactly be looking at a once and done investment of $60, but possibly an amount of DLC that far exceeds the cost of the initial game.
We are just 3 months in and are approaching 7 DLC units, excluding the 3 preorder bonus units.
The japanese pricing is at about $6 per DLC unit. So far nothing is known about the western pricing.
Make no mistake this isn't really a "beta". The japanese version has been released since beginning of July and I have seen no netcode changes so far. I'm hoping for improvements, but my expectations are incredibly low.
JoeyJungle
Banned
Man, 2v2's are kind of hit or miss in terms of playability, but I haven't found a single 3v3 that's actually been playable. Every single time it's a complete stutterfest, usually ending in a disconnect due to desync after 30 seconds.
I watched a couple streams when the Japanese release came out, and 3v3 seemed way smoother than anything I'm getting. I wonder if the netcode was balanced for incredible Asian connection speeds or something?
I watched a couple streams when the Japanese release came out, and 3v3 seemed way smoother than anything I'm getting. I wonder if the netcode was balanced for incredible Asian connection speeds or something?
SquirrelSoup
Member
I'm not sure what's wrong with the netcode/matchmaking but it's been terrible so far. Nothing but unplayable slideshows except for maybe one match.
Edit: And right as i say that, i get an amazing running match. So it's definitely possible.
Then we went for the rematch and right when it starts the room is disbanded T.T
Edit: And right as i say that, i get an amazing running match. So it's definitely possible.
Then we went for the rematch and right when it starts the room is disbanded T.T
That's a real shame. I was really looking forward to this, but the netcode in the beta is completely unplayable, and since multiplayer was what I was looking forward to the game is basically worthless if the netcode stays as it is.
During the 1 hour of playing the beta (all 2v2 matches), I had a total of 1 match that felt okay. Everything else was a completely unplayable slideshow. I really hope this is just a result of some bug that will be fixed by release.
TheSpoiler
Member
Yeah it's wack. My runs haven't been too terrible (like 80 percent of my matches in 2v2 were fine but the rest were straight garbo) b ut considering it's an online only game in terms of multiplayer, this shit should be perfect.
I bought the Premium G Soundtrack edition and wasn't able to play one single smooth 2v2 or 3v3. So in a sense the game is nothing more than a paper weight for me right now.
I'd like to see those who have issues to try 1v1. Because that's the only mode that has been playable for me.
To be fair though. The predecessor on PS3 had a good netcode, so there is some hope. I have no idea what they changed that turns it into this mess.
EDIT: I really wanted this game to be successful, but so far I got nothing but disappointment. Adding their DLC output and pricing to that, which dwarfes other fighting games, I'm currently wary recommending this game at full price.
SquirrelSoup
Member
Tried it out, and yeah. Mostly good to great matches in that so far. Weird.
Snowybreak
Member
Now I can't even join 2v2 or 3v3 matches, every single time I get kicked because of a connection error.
Well this beta, which I'd been super excited for, has completely soured me on the game. Unless the netcode is actually fixed for NA, I'm not getting it.
Well this beta, which I'd been super excited for, has completely soured me on the game. Unless the netcode is actually fixed for NA, I'm not getting it.
In my case, even if the connection of others are 2 bars or more usually turns to 1 bar. Which shouldn't be the case, but somehow happens.
When you are playing you can see the connection quality at the bottom of the screen. In 1v1 I had 2 bar once and that was still good enough.
The preorder comes with 3 DLC units: Lupus, Virtue and Hot Scramble.
Hot Scramble doesn't seem to be available for purchase in Japan for now. So no idea how they are going to handle it. It's one of the best units in the game though.
On the other hand, they might release DLC you want post release. So saving money on a sale would be a good idea. The first 5 are out in Japan, another 2 are confirmed to come.
But as I said, so far there is no information about how they are going to handle the DLC here.
Here's the official listing of all MS. Those marked as NEW are the DLC units. Just in case one of them catches your eye.
It at least acts like a power bank and increases ammo. Not sure, if it also instantly reloads on activation.
JoeyJungle
Banned
tfw you get match with someone using a 500 cost unit and they aren't great at it
The Sum of Zero
Member
Surprisingly my 2v2 matches last night and today were pretty much lag-free, outside of one.
tfw both you and your teammate are using Freedom and you win:
tfw both you and your teammate are using Freedom and you win:
Ah okay cool. Thanks!
Shouta
Member
Zero System throws off the targeting of your opponents for a short time making it easier to dodge or get in and attack. L2 should be a shotel charge that pushes you towards the enemy and has a projectile barrier to let you get in on the enemy.
JoeyJungle
Banned
How do you chat to your partners? I just got two games where I got a "thank you" at the end but didn't know how to respond.