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[Timu]

Just saw it...I loved it. I found it much better than the 1990 movie in most areas. From the cast to the music to even the humor it was such a highly enjoyable experience. Can't wait for the sequel!

Also, Betty Ripsom should be

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dead, I mean, Pennywise ripped off her legs!

 

[Mr Swine]

Saw it yesterday with my mom and sibling. We all loved it and the crowd seemed to love it too. Really loved the scary parts and I nearly shat my pants a few times lol.

 

[MagnaderAlpha]

That's something this movie actually tried to address, unlike the miniseries. Georgie wasn't killed off right away, his arm was ripped off. Then, he dragged him from his feet into the sewer. Who knows how much longer he terrorized the poor thing before dying. Either way, I think the arm ripping + sewer dragging was enough to terrorize him.

Same with the bully, he saw those zombie thingies for a while before appearing himself. We also don't know if he killed right away.

Also, he TRIES to kill some of the losers after the first scare as well. Most notably Billy. I don't know much about the book, but I know there is some sort of turtle entity that's the opposite of Pennywise and there's turtle imagery on many occasiones, implying the turtle is protecting them as well I guess? Wonder if they'll explain that in the next chapter.

The novel's It strikes when the timing is right. I made this a point earlier in the thread, but in the novel, It's victims aren't all missing. It also doesn't gorge itself on victims, just eats pieces from them. I guess one thing you could say, It was wasteful, but given It's hubris, it doesn't care (cause there will always be fresh meat ripe for the pickin'). It left a LOT of bodies out in the open, which Derry's police department were aware of. The curfew wasn't because they believed a child abductor was out and about, but because they literally believed there was a serial killer running around the town.

So when Pennywise ate Georgie's arm in the novel, that was all It needed to eat, and all it cared to eat. Georgie wasn't significant of as prey to take much off of and savor, he was just something to take a quick pick from and toss into the gutter. That is what It thinks of its food, good for a bite but utterly disposable.

Also, Betty Ripsom should be

Spoiler

dead, I mean, Pennywise ripped off her legs!

Well,

Spoiler

she IS dead.

 

[Sunster]

Just saw it...I loved it. I found it much better than the 1990 movie in most areas. From the cast to the music to even the humor it was such a highly enjoyable experience. Can't wait for the sequel!

Also, Betty Ripsom should be

Spoiler

dead, I mean, Pennywise ripped off her legs!

all the kids floating except Bev are dead. Their bodies were just coming down.

 

[Timu]

Well,

Spoiler

she IS dead.

all the kids floating except Bev are dead. Their bodies were just coming down.

Ok, gotcha, thanks for clarifying that.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

So I just saw the movie and one thing I noticed is this

Not the scene itself. But the dress Its wearing. The librarian who hands Ben the book is wearing a yellow dress. When it cuts back, we see her again, and she looks to be the same person, just a different dress. Either they got two actresses who look the same, or It is mimicking the librarians physically except it got the dress color on. When Ben turns around we see her gone, and a red balloon floats towards and past the Librarian who handed him the book, with the yellow dress.

Alot of people thought that some scenes were cut in this part or theres a continuity error because the librarian seemingly teleported around, but I think the scene played out correctly, because of the librarians dress color being wrong.

Its a neat detail that could easily be overlooked, the dress color.

 

[BattleMonkey]

Eh I always thought it was two different librarians in that scene.

 

[nhlducks35]

The creepiest part of the movie is when Georgie is talking to Pennywise and:

Georgie: "I think I'll go now"
Pennwise: "W-Without your boat? You don't want to lose it now, Bill's gonna kill you."

Then he has that creepy smile

 

[Vincent Alexander]

So I just saw the movie and one thing I noticed is this

Not the scene itself. But the dress Its wearing. The librarian who hands Ben the book is wearing a yellow dress. When it cuts back, we see her again, and she looks to be the same person, just a different dress. Either they got two actresses who look the same, or It is mimicking the librarians physically except it got the dress color on. When Ben turns around we see her gone, and a red balloon floats towards and past the Librarian who handed him the book, with the yellow dress.

Alot of people thought that some scenes were cut in this part or theres a continuity error because the librarian seemingly teleported around, but I think the scene played out correctly, because of the librarians dress color being wrong.

Its a neat detail that could easily be overlooked, the dress color.

After seeing this 3 times, I can confirm it's a different librarian. The one that brought him the book is sitting at a table in the far back right in a shot where you can also see the creepy librarian staring in the left. I made sure to watch for it on my subsequent viewings since I was confused the first time.

 

[BamfMeat]

I loved it. One thing I wish they'd have established earlier on (maybe it was implied and I'm dense) is that it doesn't just feed on the flesh/physical, but it also feeds on their fear.

I think it'd have been a much more effective, scary movie had they established that early on, otherwise what's the point of scaring them so much? Just eat 'em already.

After seeing this 3 times, I can confirm it's a different librarian. The one that brought him the book is sitting at a table in the far back right in a shot where you can also see the creepy librarian staring in the left. I made sure to watch for it on my subsequent viewings since I was confused the first time.

I noticed it was a different librarian too and she kept tripping me up.

Saw it last night. Loved it.

Was not ready for any of the rampart child abuse in the movie though. Pedophilia, metal abuse, over-medicating... christ..

I actually wish there were more movies that did this. That's our unfortunate reality, and frankly, makes it scarier to me, IMO. What humans will do to humans, to me, is scarier than a killing entity that dresses up as a clown. Same with old Nightmare on Elm Street - they toned down the fact that he sexually abused the children and just made him a "child murderer" because of the times.

 

[RedRum]

I loved it. One thing I wish they'd have established earlier on (maybe it was implied and I'm dense) is that it doesn't just feed on the flesh/physical, but it also feeds on their fear.

I think it'd have been a much more effective, scary movie had they established that early on, otherwise what's the point of scaring them so much? Just eat 'em already.



I noticed it was a different librarian too and she kept tripping me up.



I actually wish there were more movies that did this. That's our unfortunate reality, and frankly, makes it scarier to me, IMO. What humans will do to humans, to me, is scarier than a killing entity that dresses up as a clown. Same with old Nightmare on Elm Street - they toned down the fact that he sexually abused the children and just made him a "child murderer" because of the times.

Yup. Definately and eye opener. There were laughs and short screams throughout the movie, but the full theater was eerily quiet during all the pedo dad scenes as well as asshole gun cop dad scenes.

 

[MagnaderAlpha]

I actually wish there were more movies that did this. That's our unfortunate reality, and frankly, makes it scarier to me, IMO. What humans will do to humans, to me, is scarier than a killing entity that dresses up as a clown. Same with old Nightmare on Elm Street - they toned down the fact that he sexually abused the children and just made him a "child murderer" because of the times.

I think they kinda made the bit about Bev's dad's perversion too black and white. Every scene he was in, he looked like a stereotypical pervert. In the book, they made it more "realistic" by showing scenes of him being warm and caring towards her, to the point that Bev knows he's abusive, but "He's good... sometimes. Sometimes he's nice and he worries about me, so he's not ALL bad!", which is a real thing victims of abuse go through. Abuse rarely is turned on 24/7. There are times where nothing bad's happening, and you think back to those times to rationalize why you are still dealing with this relationship, even though when shit hits the fan, it REALLY HITS HARD. Having dealt with an abusive father, reading how Beverly's home life was was one of those moments where it hits you in that spot that you wanna laugh and cry at how disturbingly on-the-nose it is.

 

[Dion Blaster]

Maybe a dumb question but why does It say "fear" at the end? Just to remind the audience that is what he desires and represents?

 

[beelzebozo]

Maybe a dumb question but why does It say "fear" at the end? Just to remind the audience that is what he desires and represents?

i think this was their way of trying to explain something from the book which comes up in a section of IT's thoughts: that, for the first time, IT is afraid and doesn't like it, or know what to do.

much more powerful when presented in that way. kind of confusing and stupid when IT just says "fear!"

 

[Dion Blaster]

i think this was their way of trying to explain something from the book which comes up in a section of IT's thoughts: that, for the first time, IT is afraid and doesn't like it, or know what to do.

much more powerful when presented in that way. kind of confusing and stupid when IT just says "fear!"

Yeah, I thought the ending segment demonstrated that pretty well, especially It repeating Bill's mantra. Him saying the word felt too on the nose.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

i think this was their way of trying to explain something from the book which comes up in a section of IT's thoughts: that, for the first time, IT is afraid and doesn't like it, or know what to do.

much more powerful when presented in that way. kind of confusing and stupid when IT just says "fear!"

It was mimicking Its favorite Metal Gear Solid Boss.

 

[kylecoley182]

People lost their shit when it said IT chapter one

 

[Evo X]

Just came back from watching. Funniest movie of the year. Kid from Stranger Things was fantastic.

 

[Yoshichan]

People lost their shit when it said IT chapter one

but why, it was expected..

 

[giancarlo123x]

but why, it was expected..

Not really, a lot of people like myself never seen the original series or read the book so it was cool to see that. I do feel like reading it now though.

 

[Kyzer]

but why, it was expected..

You only clap when youre surprised?

 

[ZackieChan]

You only clap when youre surprised?

Have you been in any of those clapping/noise at movie theater threads?

 

[Zushin]

but why, it was expected..

Not for everyone. I've never seen/read anything to do with IT before so was pleasantly surprised haha.

 

[sp3ctr3]

As a big fan of the original mini series I really like this version of the movie. The cast of the losers club was spot on and I especially like Beverly.

I like the more colorful Pennywise, with the deeper voice, from the mini series but this new version was SO great. In the mini series Pennywise was a vicious clown that turned out to be a monster. In this new movie Pennywise is a monster portraying as a clown.

I like the parts where he just kinda stops talking mid scentance. It's like his "animal" instincts kick in as he smells the fear. He kinds spaces out and drools before coming back and finishing the scentance.

The only character I feel is totally wasted is Stan. Zero personality and very forgettable.

 

[Kyleripman]

Saw the movie a second time this weekend. I found it even more enjoyable when I wasn't worried about whether it would respect the book or even be any good in the first place (which of course it does and is). Definitely holds up.

I also rewatched the miniseries. While all of the obvious points of comparison have been made, I'll add one more: lots of posters have commented on how the new movie has an underdeveloped Mike, but I'd actually suggest that the miniseries does even less with child Mike. Virtually all of Mike's characterization in the miniseries comes from his adult self; he has very little to do as a child character and even his initial encounter with Pennywise is missing IIRC.

Woo you went with my title suggestion ��
So hyped

Somehow missed your post, sorry - and yes I love it! Thanks again!

 

[GhaleonEB]

If that's the case, why did he just immediately murder Georgie/the bully? The confusion comes when he terrorizes some people but then straight murders others with no rhyme or reason.

He's not crazy, he's a hunter so he should be consistent in how he hunts.

It's not made very clear in the film, but Georgie was It's first victim since awaking after It's 27-year sleep. It was desperate for a victim, which is why he's visibly drooling through the entire conversation, to the point where he checks out for a moment and just gurgles with hunger. As others noted, maiming Georgie was sufficient to terrorize him; he was already kinda freaked out but was lured by the boat.

It did spend time terrorizing Patrick by having the rotting kids chase him through the sewer. He was petrified by the time Pennywise appears.

 

[obin_gam]

Saw it Saturday with Dolby Atmos, fucking hell what sound!

The movie was also great, not that scary, more of a monster movie than a horror movie.
Loved the Stranger Things kid's character and all his jokes - which actually works

I also loved the fact that Pennywise looked and acted as a marionette, and that the being within seemed sort of "not small enough" for the body it inhabited. They eyes were perfect. I will never forget the scene with Georgie when Pennywise just sort of stops everything and just looks oddly into oblivion.

 

[Jack Scofield]

In the mini series Pennywise was a vicious clown that turned out to be a monster. In this new movie Pennywise is a monster portraying as a clown.

I like the parts where he just kinda stops talking mid scentance. It's like his "animal" instincts kick in as he smells the fear. He kinds spaces out and drools before coming back and finishing the scentance.

I totally agree with this. I loved the actor's portrayal of Pennywise and how feral and animalistic he can be. And how he can't control himself sometimes.

 

[Majora]

It's not made very clear in the film, but Georgie was It's first victim since awaking after It's 27-year sleep. It was desperate for a victim, which is why he's visibly drooling through the entire conversation, to the point where he checks out for a moment and just gurgles with hunger. As others noted, maiming Georgie was sufficient to terrorize him; he was already kinda freaked out but was lured by the boat.

It did spend time terrorizing Patrick by having the rotting kids chase him through the sewer. He was petrified by the time Pennywise appears.

If he's so desperate for a first victim after 27 years, why even bother with the elaborate luring sequence in the first place? It's more than capable of just appearing in front of Georgie as something shit scary and chasing down a tiny kid in like 5 seconds if he's so ravenous (or so I would imagine, the limitations on his powers and shapeshifting are opaque to say the least).

I don't really think there's a good reason for that encounter to play out the way it does, it light of everything else that happens later, apart from the fact that it makes an effective and memorable set-piece to have a clown lure a kid into putting his arm into a sewer drain.

 

[The Broken Ska Record]

If he's so desperate for a first victim after 27 years, why even bother with the elaborate luring sequence in the first place? It's more than capable of just appearing in front of Georgie as something shit scary and chasing down a tiny kid in like 5 seconds if he's so ravenous (or so I would imagine, the limitations on his powers and shapeshifting are opaque to say the least).

I don't really think there's a good reason for that encounter to play out the way it does, it light of everything else that happens later, apart from the fact that it makes an effective and memorable set-piece to have a clown lure a kid into putting his arm into a sewer drain.

It could be that IT was waking up and was sloppy. His eyes do go from Blue to Yellow and stay yellow throughout the movie.

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

He was also still probably trying to stay out of sight.

 

[theAntagonist]

If he's so desperate for a first victim after 27 years, why even bother with the elaborate luring sequence in the first place? It's more than capable of just appearing in front of Georgie as something shit scary and chasing down a tiny kid in like 5 seconds if he's so ravenous (or so I would imagine, the limitations on his powers and shapeshifting are opaque to say the least).

I don't really think there's a good reason for that encounter to play out the way it does, it light of everything else that happens later, apart from the fact that it makes an effective and memorable set-piece to have a clown lure a kid into putting his arm into a sewer drain.

In the book, if I'm not mistaken, George's fear is that of the dank basement, and this is even elaborated upon. That when he goes into the basement, he can just feel this creeping presence lurking, waiting, and watching.

This is implied in the movie with the glinting lightbulbs on the shelf, but it's a double meaning in that fear is nothing but an illusion, but Pennywise IS simultaneously illusion and corporeal, and it draws its power from those that empower illusion into real manifestation.

That's why Pennywise gets George in the manner that he does, because the sewage drain conjures the mental image of the cellar, but I believe that its inferred/implied that Pennywise has been cultivating George's fear of the basement.

 

[asagami_]

If he's so desperate for a first victim after 27 years, why even bother with the elaborate luring sequence in the first place? It's more than capable of just appearing in front of Georgie as something shit scary and chasing down a tiny kid in like 5 seconds if he's so ravenous (or so I would imagine, the limitations on his powers and shapeshifting are opaque to say the least).

I don't really think there's a good reason for that encounter to play out the way it does, it light of everything else that happens later, apart from the fact that it makes an effective and memorable set-piece to have a clown lure a kid into putting his arm into a sewer drain.

I have to guess the fact to turn a child who was playing cheerfully to have immense fear in a matter of seconds something will impact in the "taste" of the victim.

 

[Timu]

TBH, I knew there was going to be a sequel when they said they wanted to only focus on the kids for this one, and I never saw the original at that time as well, in fact this month was the first time I saw the original.

 

[Herne]

I'm surprised people supposedly reacted with surprise after the Losers made a blood oath to return if IT does just minutes before.

 

[Cmagus]

Just saw this on Reddit and it makes me wonder where else he is hidden throughout the movie.He isn't there for most of the scene and then appears near the end.

 

[nicoga3000]

Reading the book before I see the movie. Just got to the part where

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Ben sees the mummy clown on the cold day as he walks home from helping count books.

Book is really really good and is getting me more and more excited for the movie.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

Just saw this on Reddit and it makes me wonder where else he is hidden throughout the movie.He isn't there for most of the scene and then appears near the end.

Thats creepy af

 

[Surfinn]

Just saw this on Reddit and it makes me wonder where else he is hidden throughout the movie.He isn't there for most of the scene and then appears near the end.

I love shit like this.

 

[BreezyLimbo]

I love shit like this.

Between this and the librarian

I wonder how much stuff there is like that?

 

[Astral Dog]

Whoever did the soundtrack deserves a rai$e

Its Beautiful 😢

 

[Dany]

but why, it was expected..

It wasn;t for me. Didn't read the books.

 

[Vectorman]

Just finished watching the film. Really enjoyed alot of the film but was also scratching my head at some of the stuff they did as well. The kids outside of Bev, Bill, and Ben felt so underused. Honestly I did not like Bill at all. The character just seemed so driven to kill IT that he goes right into dumbass mode and continually puts his life and his friends in danger. Plus he forgets his friends so damn much especially at the end. Like he literally just leaves the group, finds Bev, and then leaves her to face off Georgie by himself. Plus I didn't buy that forced loved triangle at all lol. Ben/Bev shipper over here honestly so I didn't dig that last shot at all lol. Felt so unearned for Bill. Meanwhile the other 4 boys have to pick up the pieces to get some decent character development. The town, the bullies, and our titular villian suffer under the time length as well. This film desperately calls for an extended cut for at an extra half hour imo. Could have asked for some more on-screen deaths. For an R-rated film besides the cursing and certain abuses the kids went through, there were too few actual kills to show the menace and the fuckery of the clown.

 

[PushTheButtonMax]

At my screening they accidentally loaded up The Dark Tower and half the audience fucking flipped their shit. They sent in a staff member to apologize profusely, lol.

 

[theofficefan99]

Ok upon further reflection.... as a horror movie, it sucks, but as a dark fantasy movie, it's pretty good. The CGI was weak, though.

 

[CaptainCook]

after mulling over this movie for the past week I still think it's fucking fantastic. I get what people are saying about it not being good horror movie though. But I do think it's great at setting up tension. It really had me on the edge of my seat which horror movies typically don't do to me. IT is part horror, and mostly thriller, and I loved it. The fridge scene really stuck with me. Him just sauntering towards Eddie after saying "time to float" was the highlight pennywise scene for me.

 

[Vectorman]

Him just sauntering towards Eddie after saying "time to float" was the highlight pennywise scene for me.

I liked that scene but why didn't Pennywise eat Ed before Billy and Richtie got free? Can he not eat unconscious kids?

 

[BreezyLimbo]

I liked that scene but why didn't Pennywise eat Ed before Billy and Richtie got free? Can he not eat unconscious kids?

Nah, he eats them when they're pouring with fear

Eddie fought back during that part, meaning he wasn't fully coated in that fear.

At that point, the kids weren't that afraid of him, and so It tried to get them to be more scared.

 

[CaptainCook]

I liked that scene but why didn't Pennywise eat Ed before Billy and Richtie got free? Can he not eat unconscious kids?

its not that I don't think. I just think your looking at some Evil Force that is very comfortable taking his time horrifying his victims/meals. It's never really dealt with any kind of resistance from its victims in his very long historyin Derry. so playing with his food is something he does frequently. I'm sure he didn't think Bill and Mike would get out of the 3 doored room. These kids caught him off guard and surprised him. He looked annoyed and irritated af when bill and mike busted it. Just my take on why he acts the way he does.

 

[ronaldthump]

People lost their shit when it said IT chapter one

my cinema has a durhhh erhhh reaction.