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[Doc Holliday]

i love how people try to differentiate wwII nazi's with the wannabe Nazis today. Like people in the 1940's were from another planet or were robots.

They were people just like this asshole here, if he had power what do you think he would do?

Every American is taught from childhood what Nazis did and wanted to do. I'm not sure why people are defending this shit.

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

Those girls renounced and condemned Nazism.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

What about if a Nazi just saved a lot of (white) little puppies. Did he deserves to be punched?

What about if he feeds past midnight? He turns into a more aggressive SS Nazi?

So many (stupid) questions....

This is starting to remind me of the way people were bending over backwards to defend Pew Di Pie's dumb ass. "What if it was a dying child's last wish to wear a swastika arm band? Then could you still punch him?"

 

[Switch Back 9]

Didn't those girl renounce Nazism?

Thanks to marijuana apparently.

 

[GlitchyDegree]

Good. People shouldn't feel safe wearing hate symbols.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

I enjoy seeing nazis get punched.

 

[Heshinsi]

My one concern with this is back and forth retaliation. Some nazis will wear the band. Others might choose to use violence.

Is wearing the Nazi symbol like this not a criminal offense?

Nazi ideology at its core is about violence. You put that arm band on and start walking around town, and you're projecting to the entire world that you're down with genocide, hate, and oppression. Americans are fucking weird to me at times. The same people (not talking about you) who keep yapping about how Nazis and suprematist should have the right to express themselves, would say the exact opposite if an ISIS sypmathiser paraded around town with an arm band that had their insignia on it.

 

[The_Darkest_Red]

This is starting to remind me of the way people were bending over backwards to defend Pew Di Pie's dumb ass. "What if it was a dying child's last wish to wear a swastika arm band? Then could you still punch him?"

Would you be dancing in the streets about a "Nazi's" house being burned down? How about with him in it? I'm just wondering where we draw the line as far as celebrating violence.

 

[Temeculan3000]

Didn't those girl renounce Nazism?

Yeah, they grew up and gave up the white nationalist stuff. They were what you could call "Nazi children" I guess.

 

[Lights and Waves]

 

[Nekofrog]

One issue might be people starting to imitate this and possibly committing mistakes, or people building up false accusations about someone an dpeople believing it. Not to mention that the guy could have been armed with a knife/gun. Now this wont happen but imagine if things escalated.

A gun is never going to save a Nazi from getting knocked the fuck out blind and from behind. These fuckers want to advocate genocide? Sucker punch them all so they never see the fist or the pavement coming.

Not a Nazi? Never have to worry!

 

[ape2man]

This is sick, and the people supporting this are sick.
And you all wonder why the "both sides have extremists" narrative exists.

Yea, if "fuck nazis" is extreme to you, that's your problem.

100% this, they are nazis. your supporting a group that killed millions of jews, gypsies, disabled, romani, slavs, poles. Then you deserve everything thats coming to you.

 

[Arcteryx]

i love how people try to differentiate wwII nazi's with the wannabe Nazis today. Like people in the 1940's were from another planet or were robots.

They were people just like this asshole here, if he had power what do you think he would do?

Every American is taught from childhood what Nazis did and wanted to do. I'm not sure why people are defending this shit.

Yea...that's what people are defending here...

 

[HawksWinStanley]

I'm fine with resorting to violence in some situations.

 

[Pantaghana]

Mass deportations is more infeasible than conducting a genocide?

Eventually they run out of immigrants to deport and start looking at minorities that have been living in the country for generations. They can't deport those, what do you think they will do then?

 

[The Technomancer]

Would any of you saying this is wrong expect to be able to freely walk around wearing a nazi armband while talking racist shit and not get hit? We're not talking about some dude with a MAGA hat here, it's a fucking nazi armband. Shit would get you arrested in other countries.

No-one would give a shit if this was some punk in suspenders getting socked in a bar. Its only unnerving to people because the nazis are walking around in broad daylight and we have to confront (or do our best to avoid confronting) that they're actually among us and the violence is close to home

 

[TheSaddestSort]

If you're parading around in a place as diverse as Seattle and advocating for the disenfranchisement and elimination of "inferior" races, you better be prepared for life to come at you fast.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

Would you be dancing in the streets about a "Nazi's" house being burned down? How about with him in it? I'm just wondering where we draw the line as far as celebrating violence.

I dunno, was his house shaped like a swastika?

 

[Fenderputty]

That didn't even begin to answer for what you posted to me.

Calling someone a clown for not liking this and coming to the conclusion that this will feed the "both sides" narrative ....

Seems like you're looking for "B" with a little "C"

 

[PSqueak]

WTF are "nazi children"

Abused children being indoctrinated by pieces of shit.

 

[jayu26]

Those girls renounced and condemned Nazism.

Good for them, did their mother get the help she so desperately needed?

 

[jfkgoblue]

What happened on Twitter?

There's no evidence that what it says in the title is true.

But lets say it is. The guy went out in public. If social media is used to 'track down' someone publically harassing people, I've got no problems with it. We don't generally use the term 'mob justice' for ONE person punching someone ONCE for doing shitty things in public.

They didn't track the guy down at home or anything like that.

They certainly tried to... tracking a guy down and telling people to go out and punch him is mob mentality even if we can't prove that is why he got punched.

I certainly don't feel sorry for the asshole who got punched, but praising it is not something we should be doing.

 

[Impeccable]

Would you be dancing in the streets about a "Nazi's" house being burned down? How about with him in it? I'm just wondering where we draw the line as far as celebrating violence.

Just fucking stop.

He got knocked out.

 

[pigeon]

Awwwwwwww. That little cutie gets a pass til he grows up at least.

Yeah, but he should probably grow up in a different home than the one that's currently raising him.

 

[Crossing Eden]

Would you be dancing in the streets about a "Nazi's" house being burned down? How about with him in it? I'm just wondering where we draw the line as far as celebrating violence.

Still waiting for your response to this:

Some idiot in the US with an armband = the literal Nazis of WWII era Germany?

Did the guy ask for it? Yes. Did he deserve it? Probably. Still think it's twisted how excited you guys get over this stuff.

Why else do you think someone would wear a nazi armband in the year 2017 and go around harassing minorities? What goals do you think they have in mind?

 

[Alligatorjandro]

These people would and actually do kill people who don't look like them so fuck any sympathy for them.

 

[Arcteryx]

Just fucking stop.

He got knocked out.

You act like that's a small thing.

 

[plagiarize]

Even TV shows aimed at kids like Doctor Who still show characters punching people in the face for racist bullshit, and having a character like the Doctor who advocates against violence being like... "Yeah. In this circumstance I don't have a problem with it."

I wonder if all the 'I don't condone violence' types got upset whenever we see this moment in fiction? I'm sure Bill should have explained to that racist in the Victorian era the error of his ways instead of just punching him out cold. I'm sure that would have been as entertaining and more effective.

I'm sure.

 

[besada]

Stop the stupid derail about "Nazi children" and find your way back to the topic, which is about an adult who voluntarily wore a Nazi symbol then went out and started harassing people until someone kicked his ass.

 

[Nokterian]

I love this so much.

https://twitter.com/NYCAntifa/status/909814621682438144

Fuck nazi's period.

 

[Impeccable]

You act like that's a small thing.

It is.

 

[Brawly Likes to Brawl]

What about if a Nazi just saved a lot of (white) little puppies. Did he deserves to be punched?

What about if he feeds past midnight? He turns into a more aggressive SS Nazi?

So many (stupid) questions....

What if the nazi lands on a sapling plated by a kids environmentalist charity?

 

[aravuus]

E: WHOOPS, yet again a mod posts right as I post something

 

[Nafai1123]

You act like that's a small thing.

It's no act of genocide.

 

[NoblesseOblige]

Calling someone a clown for not liking this and coming to the conclusion that this will feed the "both sides" narrative ....

Seems like you're looking for "B" with a little "C"

I'm still not certain what obvious thing you think I am ignoring.

 

[tmarg]

i love how people try to differentiate wwII nazi's with the wannabe Nazis today. Like people in the 1940's were from another planet or were robots.

We have a lot of practice from decades of telling ourselves that people waving the Confederate flag are different from real Confederates and don't actually hate black people.

 

[Mr. Giggles]

Those girls renounced and condemned Nazism.

Always wondered what happened to these two

Good for them.

 

[SaviourMK2]

Violence is horrible, but as long as Antifa's don't stoop to murder, mutilation or given a permanent injury like the alt-right like to inflict, then I'm ok with this.

 

[mullet2000]

Would you be dancing in the streets about a "Nazi's" house being burned down? How about with him in it? I'm just wondering where we draw the line as far as celebrating violence.

He got knocked out dude. Big jump from murder.

And even then, these people's whole belief system is built around killing minorities. So forgive me if I don't feel bad for the guy.

 

[jph139]

No-one would give a shit if this was some punk in suspenders getting socked in a bar. Its only unnerving to people because the nazis are walking around in broad daylight and we have to confront (or do our best to avoid confronting) that they're actually among us and the violence is close to home

For me I guess I never really knew how much people... enjoyed it? Like I understand the necessity of violence against fascism, but I don't watch WWII documentaries and go "fuck yeah, good job killing those soldiers boys, this is dope as shit!"

I understand the "I can't bring myself to care" response, in the same way you get a story about, like, a dad murdering the guy who raped his daughter - "probably wrong but... eh." But I'll never understand the "brb gonna go watch this and laugh a bunch" mindset.

 

[Sianos]

Listen there's lots here to unpackage here:

A. punching a Nazi IMO, isn't inherently bad. Apparently even my original posting of this was missed by Sianos, so I'll restate.
B. It is possible for someone to exist and think violence in general, even against Nazis, isn't appropriate. That doesn't make them a clown or a Nazi themselves.
C. People on the right will use stuff like this to obfuscate and morally equivocate between the two groups. I look forward to my daily right wing radio listen on the way home doing just that.

I'm sorry I've provided some nuance to your otherwise fun filled thread about punching nazis.

i think in this case trying to defend the man with the swastika armband would do more harm than good for the right wing's image

i do agree that people need to be careful and only punch people who are in the process of unmistakably identifying themselves as a nazis

and also that it is perfectly valid to be on an individual level a pacifist

but i think it is very unwise for a hypothetical person who would not be at risk during a nazi uprising to condemn those who are trying to prevent a repeat of their last uprising - criticism of individual events that were poor optics is fine and strengthens the opposition by improving it, but criticism of the principle of fighting back against nazis is not

 

[plagiarize]

They certainly tried to... tracking a guy down and telling people to go out and punch him is mob mentality even if we can't prove that is why he got punched.

I certainly don't feel sorry for the asshole who got punched, but praising it is not something we should be doing.

I think the guy who did it should face the normal criminal charges for such a thing.

But I'd shake him by the hand all the same.

It's very easy to avoid this: Don't espouse pro genocide groups in public.

Is the law wrong to punish people less harshly for assaulting someone that provoked them than people who just randomly assault someone? Of course it fucking isn't.

 

[Braag]

He was bound to get a beating sooner or later. Which is fine by me.
People should stop comparing him getting knocked out to murdering someone.

 

[Breads]

My one concern with this is back and forth retaliation. Some nazis will wear the band. Others might choose to use violence.

What back and forth retaliation? Nazis are already killing us. They have always been violent. People need to wake the fuck up. Yall are being tricked if you think the nazi punchers are the ones stoking this flame.

 

[MUnited83]

What about violence against nazi children? Is that cool?

You're telling me the grown ass man in the video is actually 8 years old?

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Would you be dancing in the streets about a "Nazi's" house being burned down? How about with him in it? I'm just wondering where we draw the line as far as celebrating violence.

I'm not dancing in the streets now. I just feel zero sympathy, and I understand the kind of anger/passion that a person wearing a swastika could generate. And yes, if a nazi's house got burned down, I would still feel no sympathy. I draw the line at "I don't give a fuck if bad things happen to Nazis".

 

[Basketball]

1. People have too much time on their hands

2. Attention seeking Nazi

3. Drama Drama Drama

 

[Furyous]

Damn are Nazis a problem in Seattle? I'm planning on moving there but I'm not built for repeated harassment from Nazis as I literally mind my own business and try to enjoy life without getting attacked. What are the sketchy areas where I may encounter neo nazis and alt rights?

Violence is never the answer and I don't condone this no matter what. It sucks to see dude get slumped no matter how long he harassed people. I wish there was way to have him arrested or some form of binding consequence that is not violent enough to deter others from similar actions.

I thought that area was safe, at least that's what it says from research online. I am legit scared because out of fear of one day losing my cool, responding in a negative manner, and getting caught up in some real life fuckery.

 

[How About No]

It's no act of genocide.

but gosh willickers, it's not like the nazi will be able to execute his ideas of a white ethnostate in this day and age! why not just let him speak and present how he wants and we all just get along??????

What back and forth retaliation? Nazis are already killing us. They have always been violent. People stop wake the fuck up. Yall are being tricked if you think te nazi punchers are the ones stoking this flame.

.

 

[Netherscourge]

Anyone who uses "both sides" argument automatically loses. No one is going to be that dumb. The guy is a nazi. Not just a random alt-right person... To claim both sides would be to defend a nazi. Even fox news isn't that dumb.

I think I would feel a whole lot better about this if there was video of this guy screaming at people before hand.

The only video I see is of him being surrounded by other 4 or 5 people and getting punched in the face mid-sentence. All I heard was "they deserve the...(something?)...PUNCHED OUT"

It would go a long way in showing he actually deserved to get beaten right there on the street. Sure, the armband swastika is pretty bad in it's own right, but showing the guy mouthing off and spewing pure hate live in a video would make me personally feel a whole lot better about it.

Hopefully someone on the bus or train got video of this Nazi guy doing more than just sitting in a seat listening to music on his headphones. Because that'll be the narrative the Alt-Right uses in their propaganda. "Innocent man taking advantage of 1st amendment rights ruthlessly attacked by radical Antifa extremists blah blah blah shit". That's how it'll be spun - making him into the victim.

I assume he probably went back and forth with someone based on the armband he was wearing. I'd probably say something too to this clown if he's just walking down the street wearing that shit. But I ain't taking a swing at him unless he takes one at me. Having video evidence of him spewing hatred beforehand would go along way, though, in making me take a good swing at him. Especially if he was doing it right in my face.

Is there a longer version of that video some where? I want to hear more of what the Nazi guy was saying beforehand to people.

EDIT - looks like YouTube is taking them down.