The escalation is in response to neo-nazis themselves escalating. Motherfucker was out in public wearing armbands and harassing people. We had Charlottesville just over a month ago. Neo-nazis are becoming more bold and brazen every god damn day. If anti-fascists DON'T escalate in response, then we all risk getting trampled. There is no other scenario.
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Armband-wearing Nazi roams Seattle instigating, gets KOed, removes armband and leaves
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The escalation is in response to neo-nazis themselves escalating. Motherfucker was out in public wearing armbands and harassing people. We had Charlottesville just over a month ago. Neo-nazis are becoming more bold and brazen every god damn day. If anti-fascists DON'T escalate in response, then we all risk getting trampled. There is no other scenario.
Mr. Giggles
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Vigilant Walrus
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No, you don't get it. I explicitly said what you were arguing;
But here is the thing- Pointing to how ideological based violence is not the same as being a pacifist. You've misunderstood something here quite deeply. I'm totally with you that the US is a systemic racist institution.
I don't know why you're arguing a point that I am agreeing with you on, to try and disconcern yourself from previous eras where collective prosecution outside the rule of law, has lead to catastrophes. Particularly in the soviet union.
nazis getting punched their teeth in is not the problem. The philosophical reasoning behind it is the normalization of violence over iconography. We're not talking self defense here.
As I said; There is less and less difference between a republican, a conservative, a neo-nazi, a confederate flag supporter. It's not without the realm of possibility to suggest that violence subjugated on one, goes for the others. After all, the argument is that the iconography makes you fully a part of it.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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It's fucking sad that it's not even surprising people are caping for Nazis in America
HATE GROUPS ALREADY DO THIS. THERE'S NO SLIPPERY SLOPE.
MontyBrown
Banned
Why let someone like that walk around. A punch is going to change nothing. A bullet will.
I said that it's just as likely he'll retaliate with violence as it is he'll stop openly being a Nazi and that I don't see this as a "win" in that regard. Not sure why you think I'm implying Nazi don't/won't kill people.
If we allow violence against Nazis, the next step will be violence vs. Lovecraftian cosmic horrors and Satan himself.
ronaldthump
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Hahahahahah. It just got better and better the more I scrolled down. Him lying on the floor passed out. Whoever punched him. 👌
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Wasn't there a thread awhile back that said Nazis actually took a lot of their ideology from race laws in America and just ramped the shit up to 20? If that's the case, it makes perfect sense for some moderates and white people to cape for Nazis.
Teaching them that it literally pays to stand up to shitheads. Raising the next generation right.
Bobby Roberts
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This shit...
I'm not like, freaking out at your poor reasoning or whatever. This attempt to reframe the conversation where yours is the coolly rational one is pretty weak in general. Almost as weak as the explanation that followed it, an explanation that again continues your weird, misguided practice of imagining a hypothetical removed from the context of this specific incident where Nazi beliefs can (and should) be lumped in with other, actually valid ideologies.
No it doesn't and you're not even using these words you're mishandling correctly. You think this raises questions because you're the one raising them.
None of this is happening in a vacuum. That fact is what makes the sucking sound of this gambit you're attempting so loud.
Mr. Giggles
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I believe it's a misunderstanding of what is free speech and the consequences of it.
You'll catch a ban with that language.
We went from WW2 heroes to a place where the people we beat can walk around with those symbols openly and not get harassed by police.
I was going to respond to this... but Jesus fucking Christ.
Your other posts prove my point. I never thought I would see a #notallnazis argument, although Im not surprised it came from you.
perfectchaos007
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Have any of you GAFers punched a neo nazi? You all seem in favor of using violent actions against these dudes but I'm curious if any of you have actually punched a guy/girl wearing a Nazi symbol, KKK mask, MAGA hat, etc.
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They have murdered people who have reached too harassment peacefully in 2017 already. More than once. More than one victim. There have been many links in the thread. They are the ones out there killing people unprovoked. If one of them is out starting shit literally wearing their symbols of hate, you don't take the risk that this white supremacists shit stain might not start stabbing people like they have before, you knock them the fuck out and move along with your day.
pizzaparty
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Are you asking how a person can differentiate between moderate white supremacists and extremist white supremacists?
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Yeah, I think these two are the biggest reasons.
Some of these people will refuse to acknowledge what's going on until some arbitrary number of women/POC are killed. Until then it's just "different opinions."
Nope, but if an individual wearing said items was walking around town harassing people and caught hands, I wouldn't be sympathetic to their situation.
Chmpocalypse
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Not self-defense?
Nazis literally want to murder you if you aren't one of them.
MHWilliams
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That seems random. There are a bunch of actions across a wide variety of ideas and situations that I'm favor of, but I would not partake in myself. I am in favor of fighting fires, I would not run into a burning building myself. Perhaps I'm missing your point?
Stead Fast
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I punched a guy years ago in school who had a swastika tattooed onto his arm, but I'll be honest it was because he threw garbage at me as I was walking up the stairs, if that counts...
Haven't met one yet.
Closest was a dude who gave me a look on the street during a conversation with my friend where I said "If Hillary had talked about white people like Trump talked about minorities, they would've demanded Dems to rebuke the rhetoric, nor would they have accepted the excuses that she was just "playing up the base" or "I'm not voting for her for the attacks on white people"."
And had the nigga pulled up on me for that I would've punched him; I don't care that I am 4'11".
Fuck Nazis.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
You know the old saying, if it walks like a Nazi, talks like a Nazi and dresses like a Nazi it's probably a member of an unnamed hate group using Nazi symbols that's not actually affiliated with the Nazis.
I wouldn't need to do that cause it's illegal here so I would just call the police.
Impeccable
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Lmao post of the day.
So I take it you feel yourself belonging to the "other" group seeing as you refer to your fellow board-members as "You gaffers"?
It's nice living in a country where symbols of hate are banned, isn't it? Swastikas and Nazi Saluts are both banned here as well.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Haven't had the displeasure of meeting one of those wastemen, but sounds like you'd jump in front of the punch anyway
KoopaTheCasual
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No, but if a nazi gentleman got in my way and called me an "ape", you can bet your ass I would lay him out cold.
Fuck respectability with people who don't respect my humanity.
Anyone who thinks punching a Nazi might make them hateful or violent seems to be missing the fact they already are by being fucking Nazis. You don't walk around with a Nazi armband because you're espousing peace and love. Even them using their free speech is basically using it in the most disgusting and ugly manner possible. Its like going to a child care center and telling the parents you believe in fucking kids and expecting not to get the fucking shit kicked out of you by every adult there and being shocked by that outcome.
Baroquemantic
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Good. Fuck Nazis. I'd have decked his ass too if he was talking that bullshit.
Punched more then a few guys that called me nigger. I guess one of them could be a Nazi.
I'll let you know next time one comes my way. Thankfully the last attempted
Shit dude. Stay safe out there. Though I guess one should assume you can hold your own, but still.
Human Resources
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merely society self-correcting an error
nothing to see here
nothing to see here
Username1198
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Oh shit lmao that imagery
The Broken Ska Record
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Why not just fake it like that one guy who spray painted "blacks rule" on his driveway or the lady who carved a B in her cheek?
It's true that nazis have become more brazen and that violent hate crimes from them are on the rise. It's also true that people should fight back against them if harassed.
But if this keeps escalating, aren't we going to start seeing shootouts on the streets eventually? Some people here are already advocating outright shooting the guy instead of punching him.
Frankenstrat
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800mg?? Was that Joey Diaz????
Cops shooting black man, white people shooting black man, Nazi just mowdow a women.
Sooner or later ?? You are late to the party.
I live in the UK, so just have to deal with a blade and not a gun. I would still do the same though.
Username1198
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THe most I've ever ingested is 150mg and I have a high tolerance, and I was fucked up for that day and the next.
800mg is like, some cheech and Chong ssj4 shit.
Dude. They're already killing people. In 2017 Nazis are killing innocent people in America. Let that sink in. Stop ignoring it.
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