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Apple Pre-order Thread - iPhone 8, 8+, Watch Series 3, AppleTV 4K
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Most seem to like it. Wall Street Journal was down on it. Camera seems like a decent improvementcool. Though I didnt see any mentions of the new 4K 24fps mode.
Portrait lighting looks pretty bad in most of the shots Ive seen. I would much prefer a way to adjust the bokeh effect by f stop, set a manual focus plane, or simulate depth of field in video. Even an improvement to the bokeh shape would be great. Maybe that will be added in the future. Portrait lighting is so underwhelming, it almost feels like an insult.
9to5 mac review was the first I heard of zero shutter lag and haptic feedback on the shutter button. Thats cool.
Is this the first time iPhones have had slow sync flash?
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Lol WSJ with a scathing review on iPhone 8
WSJ had a scathing review. Came up on my news app on my iphone and apple watch. Ironic.
uncleniccius
Member
As someone going from a 6 to an 8+ I'm content with what I'm reading.
Confident in a big upgrade in two years without any teething issues.
Confident in a big upgrade in two years without any teething issues.
Wonder if we will see some Apple TV reviews today? I know its not going to be anything amazingly different. Some comparisons between the 4K HDR and regular ol 1080p would be nice.
Im hoping Apple will let me play a movie simultaneously so I can just switch inputs back and forth between the old and the new and see how significant the difference actually is. It seemed pretty big of a difference playing it on the iPhone vs the iPad Pro so I imagine the TV will look great.
Im hoping Apple will let me play a movie simultaneously so I can just switch inputs back and forth between the old and the new and see how significant the difference actually is. It seemed pretty big of a difference playing it on the iPhone vs the iPad Pro so I imagine the TV will look great.
Thats gonna be a fantastic upgrade. The 8 isnt exciting but if youre upgrading from anything besides a 7 I think youll find it a worthwhile investment, ESPECIALLY if youre coming from a 6.
This is where I am basically. I'm going from 6S and the 8 is just fine.
TechCrunch review does a nice job covering the camera:
https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/19/review-iphone-8/
Sounds great to me, but I am still not hot on portrait lighting. Those sample pics dont do a good job justifying the writers enthusiasm.
Hardware NR looks like it does a great job, and the slow sync flash makes flash actually worth using. Its really a nice update all things considered.
https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/19/review-iphone-8/
Sounds great to me, but I am still not hot on portrait lighting. Those sample pics dont do a good job justifying the writers enthusiasm.
Hardware NR looks like it does a great job, and the slow sync flash makes flash actually worth using. Its really a nice update all things considered.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
I give you six months ; )
Portrait mode is a fantastic practical solution to a ubiquitous mobile problem. Portrait lighting is a solution in search of a problem.
I said it before but I think the 6s is effectively the new baseline spec with decent cpu and 2GB ram. It'll be a fine phone (along with SE) for several years
My thinking as well. As long as my 6S doesn't die completely, I'm happy with it. Only thing is that I have a 16Gb model, I really should've gone with at least the 32Gb.
Queen Vulpix
Member
After thinking about it a litle more/reading some of those reviews I decided to just get a 7+ over the 8+, will be more then enough for my needs through 2019. $130 cheaper and a huge upgrade over my $50 budget android phone. Arrives Thursday so I'm quite excited ^_^ Are cases/screen protectors a must? I'd like to think I'm quite careful with my electronics but with this being my priciest phone ever by over 13 times I'd hate to ruin is since I'm not sure how fragile/durable iphones are.
MercuryLS3
Junior Member
I hate cases but for the plus it's almost a requirement. The 7's aluminum is slippery and the phone is so big that there's a good chance of dropping it.
Damn, I wonder if thats a price mistake, I should just order that. My Apple Order isnt supposed to be here until 10/2-10/4 anyway.
I havent heard about that, but it sounds promising. Seems like a no brainer for Apple to include something like that. I hope youre right, and outside developers will fill the gap.
Stabby McSter
Member
fuck i just realized that 150 wasn't the normal price for the 4k apple tv i should've preordered when i had the chance 
Yeah I'd be tempted to get an 8 for the grippier glass back. Otherwise I found a good balance to be a back case with a lip to protect the screen when resting face down and from small drops. I never found a good front screen protector due to the rounded edges. X looks to be a similar issue
Queen Vulpix
Member
Thanks! Found a highly rated cheap transparent 7+ case that's highly rated and protects against shock and scratches. Will invest in something better later down the line when I have more money but I'll get that one for now.
Simply Sami
Member
How was the WSJ review scathing?
It's basically what any reviewer not up Apples ass should be writing. iPhone 8 is not a big improvement over the last two years. The design besides the glass hasn't changed for four years.
It deserves the negative press. iPhone x is really the product you should be wanting if you bought any of the last two iPhones released.
It's basically what any reviewer not up Apples ass should be writing. iPhone 8 is not a big improvement over the last two years. The design besides the glass hasn't changed for four years.
It deserves the negative press. iPhone x is really the product you should be wanting if you bought any of the last two iPhones released.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Ok then.
Also why are you pretending like scathing means it's unwarranted? Cool troll post I guess.
Zeyphersan
Banned
Why is design the most important improvement?
[apple makes a new phone design that's thinner and lighter]
lol apple always puts form over function, give me the same design but with more power and battery life
[apple iterates on a design and makes it thicker and more powerful]
apple's design has lost its way, look at these giant bezels, jobs is rolling in his grave
The_Inquisitor
Member
Except for those of us upgrading from a 6 who dont want to spend 1k on a phone. But your point is valid if you have a 6+ or 7 imho as you said.
Yeah.
You are crazy if you think the iPhone 8 looks like the 6, if they offered me an iPhone with the same internals/specs of the 8 but that looked like the 6 for 400€ less i would always pick the full priced, better designed 8 all the days of my life.
The 6 was a punch in the eye, the 7 fixed everything and the 8 uses completely different look and feel materials.
The change of materials alone puts the 8 in a totally different spectrum of design compared to its immediate predecessors.
That being said these reviews dissipated all my doubts and i've decided on the white/silver color, so pure and stylish.
After seeing The Verge review of the 8 I'm even more thinking that I'm sitting out this cycle and seeing what Apple brings to the table next year. The features of the 8 don't seem to be quite enough for me to justify its cost.
Wireless charging really doesn't excite me at all since getting a long cord for my bedside is just better overall. Yeah, I have to go through the pain of plugging it in (the horror) but I can use it while it's plugged in and charges fast. Wireless charging will be kinda cool once it's everywhere and maybe coffee shops and shit are putting it into their tables and stuff but having to buy some pad for my desk really isn't a terribly enticing proposition at all.
The faster chip does nothing for me. My 6s Plus still runs pretty quickly. Now I don't know what it'll do on ios11, but I don't think it'll be that bad. I've learned I really don't actually utilize a lot of the power of my phone since I don't do too many games on it.
The look of the 8 is so similar I can't justify anything either. I roll with a case on my 6s Plus so it wouldn't really look any different or feel any different anyway.
I'd still be fighting the loss of the headphone jack by upgrading. It's not a huge deal for me since I do have some bluetooth headphones, it's just more painful if i'm not really getting much of anything in return for it. I'd rather keep that option open.
The AR stuff is completely lost on me at the moment, too. Like wireless it'll probably take a year or so before it catches on to anything big anyway.
I'd love to get a camera upgrade this year on my phone especially since I'm going on a trip in January but for $800-$1000 that seems wacky as hell.
And the X is still too iffy for me to drop even more on that. Not completely sold on FaceID and I don't really want to wade through bullshit low quantities to try and get one day 1 or something. I've made peace with the notch, but the screen size being basically the same as my Plus doesn't make things terribly enticing overall.
Wireless charging really doesn't excite me at all since getting a long cord for my bedside is just better overall. Yeah, I have to go through the pain of plugging it in (the horror) but I can use it while it's plugged in and charges fast. Wireless charging will be kinda cool once it's everywhere and maybe coffee shops and shit are putting it into their tables and stuff but having to buy some pad for my desk really isn't a terribly enticing proposition at all.
The faster chip does nothing for me. My 6s Plus still runs pretty quickly. Now I don't know what it'll do on ios11, but I don't think it'll be that bad. I've learned I really don't actually utilize a lot of the power of my phone since I don't do too many games on it.
The look of the 8 is so similar I can't justify anything either. I roll with a case on my 6s Plus so it wouldn't really look any different or feel any different anyway.
I'd still be fighting the loss of the headphone jack by upgrading. It's not a huge deal for me since I do have some bluetooth headphones, it's just more painful if i'm not really getting much of anything in return for it. I'd rather keep that option open.
The AR stuff is completely lost on me at the moment, too. Like wireless it'll probably take a year or so before it catches on to anything big anyway.
I'd love to get a camera upgrade this year on my phone especially since I'm going on a trip in January but for $800-$1000 that seems wacky as hell.
And the X is still too iffy for me to drop even more on that. Not completely sold on FaceID and I don't really want to wade through bullshit low quantities to try and get one day 1 or something. I've made peace with the notch, but the screen size being basically the same as my Plus doesn't make things terribly enticing overall.
the 6-8 all look the same put each them next to each other and they look like the same phone.
Simply Sami
Member
I'm not crazy. Go read the WSJ or verge reviews and they are repeating what I am saying.
Complete different spectrum? What are you going on about? One is using glass and the others are using Alumunium. Hardly complete different spectrum. Complete different spectrum is when you talking about the X. You also need to learn the difference between design and material. I was talking about the design being the same for the last four years.
It's a minimal upgrade over the last two phones which were the 6s and 7. I'm not surprised about the negative reviews. Apparently that's trolling now.
Portrait mode even in beta could produce some excellent photos. I have done portrait photography in the past, and of course realize a high end dedicated camera remains preferable to a smartphone, but I still came away impressed more often than not when using portrait mode.
Stunning results considering where these cameras were a year before:
Simply Sami
Member
I'd recommend it if you got a 6 because of the RAM bump from 1gb to 3gb. The 6 plus was my worst iPhone ever out of all and I bought all of them. Couldn't put in my pocket due to scared of bending it. The phone was really slow and browsers kept crashing due to lack of RAM.
The 6s and 7 solved those issues.
MercuryLS3
Junior Member
Totally agree, design is as important as every thing else. 6 was ugly and slippery, 7 looked better but still slippery and not that attractive. The 8 looks beautiful and the glass back will give it a bit of stickiness, reminds me of a modern iPhone 4. I think the 7 is a better value, but design matters and the 8 finally does it right.
4 tries and they got it right.
MercuryLS3
Junior Member
As if WSJ and Verge were these bastion of knowledge of design.
And if you think that the material used doesn't change and influence the design of an object i really don't know what to tell you.
Besides, aside the different materials the 8 has a different design than the 7 anyway, just look at the antenna band and the camera protrusion.
I personally think the 7 has a better and cleaner design than the 8 but the 8 is still good and gets bonus points for being vaguely reminiscent of the GOAT 4.
peppermints
Member
Someone on another forum contacted Apple support about HDR - the rep told them that if a movie is Dolby Vision, it will not fall back to HDR10 if the TV does not support Dolby Vision.
That's really disappointing if true. I feel like there has to be way more HDR10 only sets out in people's homes than DV at the moment.
It also seems oddly specific for a customer rep to know that on a product that's not even released yet.
Oh well, we'll know more by Friday. Still holding out hope.
That's really disappointing if true. I feel like there has to be way more HDR10 only sets out in people's homes than DV at the moment.
It also seems oddly specific for a customer rep to know that on a product that's not even released yet.
Oh well, we'll know more by Friday. Still holding out hope.
Simply Sami
Member
So if you were to see the front of the last four phones you would be able to tell the difference? Adding a few antenna bands does not mean a redesign. Nobody really stares at the back of their phone.
If I were to put those four phones on a desk right now, you would be able to tell me which one is which? You need to go look up the word design. I'm not talking about materials.
Zeyphersan
Banned
The rep may very well not know, just saying
It also depends on what version gets uploaded to Apples servers. I also kind of doubt what the rep is saying since I downloaded John a Wick to my iPad Pro and it played in HDR, and that movie is a Dolby Vision movie and I doubt the iPad can correctly play DV content. Its not impossible but Im skeptical
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
I've never seen people rush to a thread for a product they don't care about to tell people how they're stupid for buying said product and why they shouldn't. It's incredible the amount of anger people feel when someone buys an electronic device.